Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Started by Angelo, October 22, 2020, 10:36:07 AM

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Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Yes
122 (71.8%)
No
48 (28.2%)

Total Members Voted: 170

Louther

Have we started to see this much anticipated "ramp up" now that the vaccination centres are starting to open up and operate? Few consecutive days of 40k+. Will need to do this daily and more over next number of weeks. Lots of people in mid 60s already got first shot and opened up for lower age brackets.

Big week with decision on J&J badly needed to go right way.

Evil Genius

Meanwhile:
"Millions of Oxford/AstraZeneca doses to be wasted in Netherlands
Most of the 11 million Oxford-AstraZeneca doses ordered by the Netherlands will not be used."

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-millions-of-astrazeneca-doses-go-to-waste-in-netherlands-as-europe-confirms-vaccinated-holidaymakers-welcome-this-summer-12287305

This news emerged at the same time as:

The European Commission has launched legal action against vaccine-maker AstraZeneca.
A spokesman said: "We want to make sure there is a speedy delivery of a sufficient number of doses that European citizens are entitled to and which have been promised on the basis of the contract,"


You couldn't make this shit up...  ::)
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armaghniac

Quote from: Evil Genius on April 26, 2021, 08:35:15 PM
Meanwhile:
"Millions of Oxford/AstraZeneca doses to be wasted in Netherlands
Most of the 11 million Oxford-AstraZeneca doses ordered by the Netherlands will not be used."

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-millions-of-astrazeneca-doses-go-to-waste-in-netherlands-as-europe-confirms-vaccinated-holidaymakers-welcome-this-summer-12287305

What is it about the Netherlands? The EU originally ordered AZ because some countries, including NL, were too scabby to buy Pfixrt/Biontech and the required freezers. Perhaps Bulgaria had real problems paying for it, but NL did not.
However, these vaccines will be unused in NL, I do not see why they should be wasted, unless they have reached their date, which is doubtful. Send them on a plane to India.
Note that the shipment to Ireland this week came from Asia, so these would be useful in Europe also.

the J&J has been approved for over 50s here, so that will keep things going for a while. However, the main J&J volume is in June when the over 50s will mostly be done.
They may amend the rules if more data emerges.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Evil Genius

A prominent Kenyan doctor who became an anti-vaccine campaigner and conspiracy theorist has died from the disease.

Dr Stephen Karanja said it was unnecessary to vaccinate Kenyans against Covid-19.

Instead, he argued for steam inhalation and a cocktail of drugs, including hydroxychloroquine and zinc.

He also spread conspiracy theories, involving Bill Gates and population control.

Dr Karanja died on Thursday in the high-dependency unit of a private hospital in the capital Nairobi.

More than 800,000 Kenyans have now been vaccinated, with no severe side effects being reported.

Before his death, Dr Karanja was the chair of the Catholic Doctors Association, which described him "as a true medical soldier".


More here: https://tv47.co.ke/2021/04/29/dr-stephen-karanja-catholic-doctors-association-chair-dies/

Still, it was nice that he could afford to spend his last days in the comfort of a private hospital, wasn't it?
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Ended up gettin the AZ last week, I have to say I had 2 bads days with it, unbelievable cramps and shakes

JoG2

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 30, 2021, 03:00:32 PM
Ended up gettin the AZ last week, I have to say I had 2 bads days with it, unbelievable cramps and shakes

Good man Fear. Yeah, shivers and aches for a day or 2 with the AZ seems to be common enough.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: JoG2 on April 30, 2021, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 30, 2021, 03:00:32 PM
Ended up gettin the AZ last week, I have to say I had 2 bads days with it, unbelievable cramps and shakes

Good man Fear. Yeah, shivers and aches for a day or 2 with the AZ seems to be common enough.

Probably correct decision jog2

Evil Genius

Quote from: JoG2 on April 30, 2021, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 30, 2021, 03:00:32 PM
Ended up gettin the AZ last week, I have to say I had 2 bads days with it, unbelievable cramps and shakes

Good man Fear. Yeah, shivers and aches for a day or 2 with the AZ seems to be common enough.
Better news for your 2nd AZ jab:

Will the side effects be worse for the second dose?

Not all vaccines are the same. For the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, side effects tend to be milder with the second dose. For the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, side effects tend to be stronger with the second dose. The type of side effects are the same and should still only last a day or two.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/second-coronavirus-vaccine
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

JoG2

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 30, 2021, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 30, 2021, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 30, 2021, 03:00:32 PM
Ended up gettin the AZ last week, I have to say I had 2 bads days with it, unbelievable cramps and shakes

Good man Fear. Yeah, shivers and aches for a day or 2 with the AZ seems to be common enough.

Probably correct decision jog2

Oh aye, 100%. We might get to drop a few euro on the slots in Bundoran yet!


Gabriel_Hurl

2nd Pfizer done this morning - no improvement to my 5G service though

dec

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 07, 2021, 08:52:34 PM
2nd Pfizer done this morning - no improvement to my 5G service though

Bill and Melinda Gates are getting divorced. I think they are arguing over who gets to control the microchips.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 07, 2021, 08:52:34 PM
2nd Pfizer done this morning - no improvement to my 5G service though
Got mine 2nd on Wed and no issues. Wife got hers yesterday and in bad shape. She'd need to tighten up for the weekend.

Evil Genius

#2533
Yesterday France reported 184 Covid deaths:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/

While the UK reported 11:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

This disparity has been broadly similar for weeks now, if not months.

Yet in France, they're having to throw away unused AZ vaccines which have become out-of-date:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/57095105

Unbelievable.

Meanwhile Germany, whose population is approximately 25% bigger, reported 252 deaths yesterday:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

dec

Here is the US the CDC authorized the Pfizer vaccine for 12-15 year olds, my son got his first shot today.