Ulster Hurling

Started by Fear Bun Na Sceilpe, May 25, 2015, 10:40:46 AM

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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Im not too sure if I agree with Donál Ógs proposals on Team Ulster. Id be keen to see more investment at club level in Belfast and Derry City first. These are 2 major centres of population and if we can crack these areas you will automatically see hurling in Derry and Antrim get stronger.

johnneycool

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 25, 2015, 10:40:46 AM
Im not too sure if I agree with Donál Ógs proposals on Team Ulster. Id be keen to see more investment at club level in Belfast and Derry City first. These are 2 major centres of population and if we can crack these areas you will automatically see hurling in Derry and Antrim get stronger.

Donal talks some sense but in this regard he talks some shite, but at least he's consistent with it.

He talks of giving every youngster who lifts a hurl the chance to play at the highest level no matter where they're from with this 'Team Ulster' concept, commendable, but he's never fleshed it out.

Do they play in the NHL? What level, Div1B? What level of senior championship do they come in, Leinster round robin?
Who funds it? What about all the other hurlers left behind, do Antrim also enter the NHL, do Down and Derry, Armagh, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Donegal?

Do these teams also play championship? Is there an enthusiasm for it within the hurling fraternity within Ulster?


Croí na hÉireann

Yeah, a load of nonsense. The more beneficial but more labour intensive solution is to expand the hurling pockets and follow the Dublin model in the urban centres.
Westmeath - Home of the Christy Ring Cup...

Jeepers Creepers

or just call them 'Northern Ireland'. Never going to work, only interest parties are those outside of Team NI.

Applesisapples

GAA need to invest in Belfast to start with. Rugby likely to be a big threat going forward if the names cropping up in the Schools cup teams are anything to go by. They did it for hurling in Dublin. That said the current Antrim County board would probably end up wasting the money.

johnneycool

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 26, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
GAA need to invest in Belfast to start with. Rugby likely to be a big threat going forward if the names cropping up in the Schools cup teams are anything to go by. They did it for hurling in Dublin. That said the current Antrim County board would probably end up wasting the money.

Not all of Belfast is under the jurisdiction of the Antrim CB though!

Applesisapples

Quote from: johnneycool on May 26, 2015, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 26, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
GAA need to invest in Belfast to start with. Rugby likely to be a big threat going forward if the names cropping up in the Schools cup teams are anything to go by. They did it for hurling in Dublin. That said the current Antrim County board would probably end up wasting the money.

Not all of Belfast is under the jurisdiction of the Antrim CB though!
The Clubs on the Down side like Breda seem to be making more of a fist of things though.

theskull1

Quote from: Applesisapples on May 27, 2015, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 26, 2015, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 26, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
GAA need to invest in Belfast to start with. Rugby likely to be a big threat going forward if the names cropping up in the Schools cup teams are anything to go by. They did it for hurling in Dublin. That said the current Antrim County board would probably end up wasting the money.

Not all of Belfast is under the jurisdiction of the Antrim CB though!
The Clubs on the Down side like Breda seem to be making more of a fist of things though.

To the vast majority of juvenile members, the GAA is something you play when youre a teenager then you quit.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Applesisapples

Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 09:20:44 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 27, 2015, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 26, 2015, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 26, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
GAA need to invest in Belfast to start with. Rugby likely to be a big threat going forward if the names cropping up in the Schools cup teams are anything to go by. They did it for hurling in Dublin. That said the current Antrim County board would probably end up wasting the money.

Not all of Belfast is under the jurisdiction of the Antrim CB though!
The Clubs on the Down side like Breda seem to be making more of a fist of things though.

To the vast majority of juvenile members, the GAA is something you play when youre a teenager then you quit.
That is true of many sports on an organised basis.

theskull1

Yes
But you're missing/ignoring the point I was trying to make
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Applesisapples

Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 10:07:38 AM
Yes
But you're missing/ignoring the point I was trying to make
Which is?

theskull1

That they suffer badly in this regard.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Applesisapples

Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 12:18:01 PM
That they suffer badly in this regard.
True but that's just youngsters today.

doodaa

I'm not sure there would be any appetite among the players or fans of the various Ulster counties to form an Ulster hurling side, other than for the Interpros.

Sort out the fixtures chaos in the various football dominated counties and you will be halfway to improving the hurling in the province.

johnneycool

Quote from: doodaa on May 27, 2015, 12:43:47 PM

Sort out the fixtures chaos in the various football dominated counties and you will be halfway to improving the hurling in the province.



There's more than one I'm afraid, apart from the Ulster council and the football dominated county boards, there's also Croke Park and how it treats second and third tear hurling counties....