China Coronavirus

[Angelo]

Zealots like Radio only discriminate against people with reservations on a hastily manufactured and tested vaccine. People drink, smoke and drive their cars in the knowledge that those actions could lead to deaths but in Radio's warped view of the world he only decides to discriminate against one type of people.

You are no longer allowed to smoke in places where your smoke will damage other people. You can drink, but not if you drive, and driving cars generally is subject to a lot of rules, from having to have a driving test, MOT, etc. You cannot pursue a career as a truck driver if you do not pass the required test and you should not have  career as a nurse if do not get a vaccine.

Welcome to Nazi Germany people.

Think you'll find the Nazis much preferred killing off the sick and the elderly to saving them

Anti-lockdowners, Covid denialists and general professional contrarians do a mean line in complaining about justified and historically literate Nazi references and then using ludicrous, unironic, historically illiterate ones themselves

Case in point there

The Nazis were also zealots who discriminated against those who did not conform with their views.

[Rossfan]

Won't be getting th'oul hair cut till Easter it seems

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0209/1196068-covid-plan/

[Smurfy123]

Leo going on a solo run again. It seems like he is still the boss

The lowest recorded cases count in 9 weeks in the uk

What will change next Thursday

By the date of a potential easing of some restrictions we will be down to double figure cases

That ok top of about 40% of the adult population having received at least 1 vaccination

Hospital occupancy down almost 50%

Something has to give somewhere

Watch the goalposts move this week. The government will try ease us in that another extension to everything is on the cards

[sid waddell]

Zealots like Radio only discriminate against people with reservations on a hastily manufactured and tested vaccine. People drink, smoke and drive their cars in the knowledge that those actions could lead to deaths but in Radio's warped view of the world he only decides to discriminate against one type of people.

You are no longer allowed to smoke in places where your smoke will damage other people. You can drink, but not if you drive, and driving cars generally is subject to a lot of rules, from having to have a driving test, MOT, etc. You cannot pursue a career as a truck driver if you do not pass the required test and you should not have  career as a nurse if do not get a vaccine.

Welcome to Nazi Germany people.

Think you'll find the Nazis much preferred killing off the sick and the elderly to saving them

Anti-lockdowners, Covid denialists and general professional contrarians do a mean line in complaining about justified and historically literate Nazi references and then using ludicrous, unironic, historically illiterate ones themselves

Case in point there

The Nazis were also zealots who discriminated against those who did not conform with their views.

Sure by that rationale, public bodies should not have the right to not employ Holocaust deniers

In your book, the anti-Nazis are the real Nazis

Your extremely limited mind is full of sorts of ludicrous contradictions such as this

[sid waddell]

Leo going on a solo run again. It seems like he is still the boss

The lowest recorded cases count in 9 weeks in the uk

What will change next Thursday

By the date of a potential easing of some restrictions we will be down to double figure cases

That ok top of about 40% of the adult population having received at least 1 vaccination

Hospital occupancy down almost 50%

Something has to give somewhere

Watch the goalposts move this week. The government will try ease us in that another extension to everything is on the cards

So you propose again making the exact same mistake that was made twice before?

Yeah, because that'll work

Some people never learn

[Louther]

Lads - no one wants a lockdown - Public,Businesses, Government, Public Health, Scientists etc etc. It's no fun for anyone and massive consequences for everyone. There is no winners.

Cases and all the indicators have dropped - brilliant and it's getting positive on Vaccines, slowly in ROI but more so in UK.

But let's not all get excited and unbolt the door for a sake of a few weeks. We wanted restrictions eased for Xmas and it had a huge consequence.

With an end, please god, in sight there shouldn't be mass removal of restrictions but a prudent lifting so that they don't have to come back on any level. That's what everyone wants, normality.

We have to be reasonable to get free of these godforsaken times once and for all. Let's not even consider an alternative at present.

[dublin7]

Lads - no one wants a lockdown - Public,Businesses, Government, Public Health, Scientists etc etc. It's no fun for anyone and massive consequences for everyone. There is no winners.

Cases and all the indicators have dropped - brilliant and it's getting positive on Vaccines, slowly in ROI but more so in UK.

But let's not all get excited and unbolt the door for a sake of a few weeks. We wanted restrictions eased for Xmas and it had a huge consequence.

With an end, please god, in sight there shouldn't be mass removal of restrictions but a prudent lifting so that they don't have to come back on any level. That's what everyone wants, normality.

We have to be reasonable to get free of these godforsaken times once and for all. Let's not even consider an alternative at present.

The 5th March is nearly a month away. It's unfair to expect the government to say today what they' do in a months time given how quickly things can change. The daily case figures are still at or above the 1,000 mark and they have consistently said they want to see low case numbers on a consistent basis before opening up.

Leo did they will release a road map for were they see the country going on the 22nd. That seems fair enough to me.

[Smurfy123]

I am not for one second saying to lift all restrictions far from it
But what I will say is some restrictions need to go
What affect is 4 lads playing golf and going home after?
A tennis court opening ?
Gyms

Certainly not suggestion opening pubs. No where near it

Outdoor activities need to reopen

[dublin7]

I am not for one second saying to lift all restrictions far from it
But what I will say is some restrictions need to go
What affect is 4 lads playing golf and going home after?
A tennis court opening ?
Gyms

Certainly not suggestion opening pubs. No where near it

Outdoor activities need to reopen

If you go to the RTE website this is the main story on the homepage.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0209/1196068-covid-plan/

If you click on the story the first line is: The Tánaiste has said the Government is working on a revised version of the "Living with Covid-19" plan which he hopes be announced in the week of 22 February.

What more do you want?

[Louther]

I am not for one second saying to lift all restrictions far from it
But what I will say is some restrictions need to go
What affect is 4 lads playing golf and going home after?
A tennis court opening ?
Gyms

Certainly not suggestion opening pubs. No where near it

Outdoor activities need to reopen

It will be great to see these things come back but is it not wiser to wait for 2/3 weeks and see how all holds up with Vaccines and drive cases down another level.

For me. The schools are the first thing to consider opening and whatever form that takes, be it reduced day's initially or whatever but it's a group that should be looked at first.

[sid waddell]

Lads - no one wants a lockdown - Public,Businesses, Government, Public Health, Scientists etc etc. It's no fun for anyone and massive consequences for everyone. There is no winners.

Cases and all the indicators have dropped - brilliant and it's getting positive on Vaccines, slowly in ROI but more so in UK.

But let's not all get excited and unbolt the door for a sake of a few weeks. We wanted restrictions eased for Xmas and it had a huge consequence.

With an end, please god, in sight there shouldn't be mass removal of restrictions but a prudent lifting so that they don't have to come back on any level. That's what everyone wants, normality.

We have to be reasonable to get free of these godforsaken times once and for all. Let's not even consider an alternative at present.

The 5th March is nearly a month away. It's unfair to expect the government to say today what they' do in a months time given how quickly things can change. The daily case figures are still at or above the 1,000 mark and they have consistently said they want to see low case numbers on a consistent basis before opening up.

Leo did they will release a road map for were they see the country going on the 22nd. That seems fair enough to me.

We're still bobbing around the 1000 cases per day

March 5th is three and a half weeks away and it seems unlikely we'll have got down to, say, 200 cases by then - 200 cases being where we previously opened up with disastrous effect on December 1st

Even if we did, it's not a safe starting point to open up - especially given we now have the super transmissible UK variant becoming dominant

Also March 5th is still pretty much winter, you'd really have to get into April at least before we'd start seeing any benefit from the change of season and the possible beneficial effect that might have on the number of Covid cases

[GetOverTheBar]

The North posts its best figures in some months today.

How does the CMO react?

Tells people that restrictions won't be fully lifted until 70-80% of population is vaccinated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56000840

There are some people very happy in the limelight during this pandemic. This gentleman is one.

[Louther]

The North posts its best figures in some months today.

How does the CMO react?

Tells people that restrictions won't be fully lifted until 70-80% of population is vaccinated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56000840

There are some people very happy in the limelight during this pandemic. This gentleman is one.

Yeah, he flipped a coin years ago to either become a highly trained medical officer or go on the X factor to bask in the limelight. He can't believe his luck that a chance has come up to do both, he going to make it last. 

[Smurfy123]

Agree about waiting those extra few weeks.
5th March is still 3 weeks away so if the even came out and said something will lift March 19
Don't you get it a lot of these people have got very well known during this pandemic
Daily briefings
Daily interviews in papers
Radio at least twice a week

[sid waddell]

The North posts its best figures in some months today.

How does the CMO react?

Tells people that restrictions won't be fully lifted until 70-80% of population is vaccinated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56000840

There are some people very happy in the limelight during this pandemic. This gentleman is one.

I don't see how the NI Chief Medical Officer making a pertinent point about how and when we get out of this pandemic equals "wanting the limelight"

He is imparting important information to the public

One of the tricks of populist politics, especially right-wing populist politics, is to deliberately ascribe a bad faith motive to public servants in order to portray what they say as not worth listening to

This trick is itself a classic example of extreme bad faith

The godfather of US right-wing "libertarianism", James Buchanan consistently pushed this trick in order to undermine the very concept of government and public service, and it it was one of the seeds that germinated into today's Trumpism

This sort of trick is cancerous for informed public debate and was always designed to be so