The Many Faces of US Politics...

[whitey]

Video contained in the tweet:

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1283895301582069762

BREAKING: President Trump's niece tells @maddow that she's heard Trump use anti-Semitic slurs and the N-word.

The saddest thing is that this changes absolutely nothing.
People who vote(d) for Trump, either openly don't care, or secretly don't care and will try and discredit the individual telling the story.

At this stage finding a 70 year old white guy who hasn't used either of those slurs would be damn near impossible

Remember what did Bill Clinton say to Ted Kennedy about Candidate Obama-

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/75627-sharpton-bill-clintons-remarks-may-have-been-racist%3famp

Option (c) normalise it.
My dad is 65 and white and he has never spoken about another human being in such a way. I know a lot of people of similar age and I know they don't speak like that.

Your assertion of damn near impossible, is therefore, incorrect

Does your dad and these other 65 year olds live in the states or does they live in Ireland

What are their opinions on travellers? Would they welcome them to live beside him? Would they object if a halting site was built next to them? Would they socialize in a pub with them?

I know many people in both countries that are not racist
Is racism in the states more or less acceptable (or accepted) than Ireland? Not sure what you are trying to discern.

No idea about hypothetical situations regarding living arrangements, but they (we) have socialised in our local pub with members of the travelling community.

Good for them....I hope they had a great time


There are plenty of people who aren't racist, who at one time in the past 70 years said something or did something that they're not proud of today. People evolve and they grow and societies change

[J70]

Video contained in the tweet:

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1283895301582069762

BREAKING: President Trump's niece tells @maddow that she's heard Trump use anti-Semitic slurs and the N-word.

The saddest thing is that this changes absolutely nothing.
People who vote(d) for Trump, either openly don't care, or secretly don't care and will try and discredit the individual telling the story.

At this stage finding a 70 year old white guy who hasn't used either of those slurs would be damn near impossible

Remember what did Bill Clinton say to Ted Kennedy about Candidate Obama-

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/75627-sharpton-bill-clintons-remarks-may-have-been-racist%3famp

Option (c) normalise it.
My dad is 65 and white and he has never spoken about another human being in such a way. I know a lot of people of similar age and I know they don't speak like that.

Your assertion of damn near impossible, is therefore, incorrect

Does your dad and these other 65 year olds live in the states or does they live in Ireland

What are their opinions on travellers? Would they welcome them to live beside him? Would they object if a halting site was built next to them? Would they socialize in a pub with them?

I know many people in both countries that are not racist
Is racism in the states more or less acceptable (or accepted) than Ireland? Not sure what you are trying to discern.

No idea about hypothetical situations regarding living arrangements, but they (we) have socialised in our local pub with members of the travelling community.

Good for them....I hope they had a great time


There are plenty of people who aren't racist, who at one time in the past 70 years said something or did something that they're not proud of today. People evolve and they grow and societies change

If only Trump's issues on this front were limited to a few thoughtless, casual uses of such terms some time in the distant past.

[easytiger95]

Ah, the soft bigotry of low expectations...

Of course he would say that, who wouldn't? What, your father wouldn't? Is he from the States? Because if he was he would definitely use the N-word at some stage. He never did?? Bet he hates travellers though. Wouldn't drink with them, would he? Oh he does....emm....ok, good for him.

How about just -

Using the N-word is and was wrong, at any stage of life. And while we hope that people who did use it, at any stage, can grow and evolve, the fact is that the person we are talking about was sued by the Federal Govt in the 70s for discrimination in housing, called for the death of innocent black young men and refused to retract his words even after that innocence was proved, said that he didn't want black people handling his money, just Jews, ran a campaign of delegitimising the first President of colour, started his own campaign by calling Mexicans' rapists, instituted a Muslim ban, separated thousands of children from their parents at the border, and has actively gone after POC in the media, including female reporters asking him questions, Nascar drivers and, of course, Colin Kapernick.

After all that, can we conclude that him saying the N-word was just something that happened in the 70s, or can we safely say that he was, is and will continue to be a degenerate, horrible racist without one redeeming quality?

[whitey]

Ah, the soft bigotry of low expectations...

Of course he would say that, who wouldn't? What, your father wouldn't? Is he from the States? Because if he was he would definitely use the N-word at some stage. He never did?? Bet he hates travellers though. Wouldn't drink with them, would he? Oh he does....emm....ok, good for him.

How about just -

Using the N-word is and was wrong, at any stage of life. And while we hope that people who did use it, at any stage, can grow and evolve, the fact is that the person we are talking about was sued by the Federal Govt in the 70s for discrimination in housing, called for the death of innocent black young men and refused to retract his words even after that innocence was proved, said that he didn't want black people handling his money, just Jews, ran a campaign of delegitimising the first President of colour, started his own campaign by calling Mexicans' rapists, instituted a Muslim ban, separated thousands of children from their parents at the border, and has actively gone after POC in the media, including female reporters asking him questions, Nascar drivers and, of course, Colin Kapernick.

After all that, can we conclude that him saying the N-word was just something that happened in the 70s, or can we safely say that he was, is and will continue to be a degenerate, horrible racist without one redeeming quality?

Lol

Many Irish people love giving themselves a pat on the back and tell themselves how mighty they are when it comes to opposing racism.

However when it comes to travellers it's a whole other story

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/they-don-t-live-the-same-way-we-do-it-s-just-a-fact-1.2392169%3fmode=amp

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/our-casual-racism-against-travellers-is-one-of-ireland-s-last-great-shames-1.1315730%3fmode=amp

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/dp5kzz/irelands-racism-towards-travellers-proves-equality-is-still-a-myth-199

[Eamonnca1]

JUL. 17, 2020, AT 5:59 AM

Americans Increasingly Dislike How Republican Governors Are Handling The Coronavirus Outbreak
By Geoffrey Skelley

Poll(s) of the week

Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, governors have generally received better marks for the way they've handled the crisis than President Trump has. However, new polling suggests that may be changing, especially for Republican governors in states where the number of coronavirus cases has spiked in recent weeks.

Gallup recently found that Americans in the 26 states governed by Republicans are souring on their leaders' approach to the public health crisis, while sentiment remains steadily positive among residents of the 24 states governed by Democrats. In fact, over the past month, the share of respondents who agreed that their governor cared about the safety and health of their community fell by 8 points, from 61 percent to 53 percent, in states where a Republican is governor; opinion in Democratic-run states hovered around 65 percent, despite some movement week to week.



And on the question of how clearly governors were communicating their plans to address the coronavirus, the GOP also got low marks. Among respondents in Republican-run states, just 43 percent said their governor offered a clear plan, down from 54 percent about a month ago. Meanwhile, 58 percent of respondents in Democratic-run states said that their governor was communicating clearly, which was nearly identical to the share who said so in early June.

Gallup isn't the only pollster to find GOP leaders getting lower scores for the way they're dealing with the coronavirus pandemic. Change Research's polling of six battleground states found especially poor numbers for Republican governors in two states where the number of coronavirus cases surged in the first half of July: Florida and Arizona. In Change's polling, 57 percent disapproved of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis's handling of the outbreak, and a whopping 71 percent disapproved of Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey's response. Additional polling in Arizona and Florida second these findings. OH Predictive Insights found that opinion of Ducey's approach went from a net positive in June (59 percent approved, 37 percent disapproved) to a net negative in July (35 percent approved, 63 percent disapproved). Likewise, surveys by CBS News/YouGov found 53 percent of Floridians said DeSantis was doing a somewhat or very bad job and 62 percent of Arizonans said the same of Ducey.

Not every Republican governor's pandemic-response ratings are underwater, however. Some, in fact, have sterling numbers. In late June, a survey from the University of New Hampshire found Gov. Chris Sununu had a 78 percent approval rating for his handling of the virus. Considering Sununu is up for reelection this November, his response could help him win another two years in office. Meanwhile, in Ohio, 77 percent of respondents in a late-June Quinnipiac University poll approved of Gov. Mike DeWine's performance. And in Massachusetts, another late-June survey from Suffolk University found 81 percent approved of Gov. Charlie Baker's handling of the outbreak.

What these three governors have in common is the coronavirus hasn't been surging in their states recently as much as it has in Arizona or Florida, but that doesn't explain everything. Texas's case rate has also shot up since late June, but Gov. Greg Abbott has gotten better marks than either DeSantis or Ducey. A CBS News/YouGov survey, for instance, found that public opinion was split as to how well he was handling the crisis: 50 percent said he was doing a good job and 50 percent said he was doing a bad job. And in another early-July survey from The Dallas Morning News/UT-Tyler, 49 percent approved of Abbott's response while 40 percent disapproved (10 percent said they neither approved nor disapproved).

Some Democratic governors have middling approval ratings, too. Change Research's early-July survey found, for instance, that 56 percent approved of Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers's handling of the pandemic, while 55 percent approved of Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf's responses. And just 51 percent approved of North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper's efforts. Wolf got some better numbers from a Monmouth University poll released earlier this week, in which 67 percent said he'd done a good job handling the coronavirus, but Cooper seems to be stuck around 50 percent. A late-June survey from East Carolina University found 53 percent approved of his response.


But on the whole, Americans have a somewhat more favorable view of the way Democratic governors have handled the pandemic than the way Republican governors are responding. In late June, a consortium of universities conducted a poll of governors' handling of the coronavirus across all 50 states and found that the median approval rating for Democratic governors was about 55 percent, compared to 49 percent for Republican governors. And some Democratic executives have sky-high numbers for how they've handled the pandemic. A late-June poll from Siena College gave New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo a 76 percent approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus, while a Garin Hart Yang Research Group survey found that 69 percent of Kentucky voters approved of Gov. Andy Beshear's response.

Of course, as president, Trump's response to the coronavirus has continued to garner the most attention, but unfortunately for him, public opinion of his efforts has only worsened. About 58 percent now disapprove of his handling of the pandemic while just 38 percent approve, according to FiveThirtyEight's coronavirus polling tracker.

[Eamonnca1]

Rethuglican death cult update:

According to a document compiled for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, but withheld from the public, Georgia is one of 18 states in the "red zone" for high caseload growth, and one of 12 in the "red zone" for high positive test results.

"Disease trends are moving in the wrong direction in Georgia with record numbers of new cases in urban, suburban and rural areas," the report warns. GA had 202 new cases for 100,000 population last week, compared to the nationwide average of 119 per 100K population.

The hardest hit counties are Gwinnett, DeKalb & Fulton, which together account for 25.9% of new cases statewide. (Some local officials have tried to respond to that crisis by imposing mask orders and other public-health measures, but Gov. Kemp is fighting hard to stop them.)

Among the report's suggestions for GA:

- "Allow local jurisdictions to implement more restrictive policies"
- "Mandate statewide wearing of cloth face coverings outside the home"
- In counties with high positive rates, "close bars, restrict social distancing in restaurants"

According to the leaked report, deaths in GA were up 65% over the previous week, positive tests were up 20.6%, total tests reported were DOWN 3.3%. So these numbers are not the result of more testing. It also lists specific communities at heightened risk.

Those communities at heightened risk include Atlanta, Augusta, Savannah and Athens-Clarke County, all jurisdictions that have attempted to implement steps advised in the White House report but have been blocked by doing so by Gov. Kemp.

In Kemp's defense, he probably has not had the benefit of seeing these recommendations, which again were delivered to the White House Task Force but not made available to those who could actually make use of them. Yet somehow I don't think it would matter to Kemp.

By not releasing this report & similar documents, the Trump WH actively deceives the American people about how best to protect themselves and about the actions that they should be demanding of their public officials. That is not by accident. It is, apparently, the plan.

Source: Jay Bookman, Journalist/author, columnist for the Georgia Recorder

[Gmac]

Rethuglican death cult update:

According to a document compiled for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, but withheld from the public, Georgia is one of 18 states in the "red zone" for high caseload growth, and one of 12 in the "red zone" for high positive test results.

"Disease trends are moving in the wrong direction in Georgia with record numbers of new cases in urban, suburban and rural areas," the report warns. GA had 202 new cases for 100,000 population last week, compared to the nationwide average of 119 per 100K population.

The hardest hit counties are Gwinnett, DeKalb & Fulton, which together account for 25.9% of new cases statewide. (Some local officials have tried to respond to that crisis by imposing mask orders and other public-health measures, but Gov. Kemp is fighting hard to stop them.)

Among the report's suggestions for GA:

- "Allow local jurisdictions to implement more restrictive policies"
- "Mandate statewide wearing of cloth face coverings outside the home"
- In counties with high positive rates, "close bars, restrict social distancing in restaurants"

According to the leaked report, deaths in GA were up 65% over the previous week, positive tests were up 20.6%, total tests reported were DOWN 3.3%. So these numbers are not the result of more testing. It also lists specific communities at heightened risk.

Those communities at heightened risk include Atlanta, Augusta, Savannah and Athens-Clarke County, all jurisdictions that have attempted to implement steps advised in the White House report but have been blocked by doing so by Gov. Kemp.

In Kemp's defense, he probably has not had the benefit of seeing these recommendations, which again were delivered to the White House Task Force but not made available to those who could actually make use of them. Yet somehow I don't think it would matter to Kemp.

By not releasing this report & similar documents, the Trump WH actively deceives the American people about how best to protect themselves and about the actions that they should be demanding of their public officials. That is not by accident. It is, apparently, the plan.

Source: Jay Bookman, Journalist/author, columnist for the Georgia Recorder

what's wrong with California' eamon big spike here .

[Eamonnca1]

Rethuglican death cult update:

According to a document compiled for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, but withheld from the public, Georgia is one of 18 states in the "red zone" for high caseload growth, and one of 12 in the "red zone" for high positive test results.

"Disease trends are moving in the wrong direction in Georgia with record numbers of new cases in urban, suburban and rural areas," the report warns. GA had 202 new cases for 100,000 population last week, compared to the nationwide average of 119 per 100K population.

The hardest hit counties are Gwinnett, DeKalb & Fulton, which together account for 25.9% of new cases statewide. (Some local officials have tried to respond to that crisis by imposing mask orders and other public-health measures, but Gov. Kemp is fighting hard to stop them.)

Among the report's suggestions for GA:

- "Allow local jurisdictions to implement more restrictive policies"
- "Mandate statewide wearing of cloth face coverings outside the home"
- In counties with high positive rates, "close bars, restrict social distancing in restaurants"

According to the leaked report, deaths in GA were up 65% over the previous week, positive tests were up 20.6%, total tests reported were DOWN 3.3%. So these numbers are not the result of more testing. It also lists specific communities at heightened risk.

Those communities at heightened risk include Atlanta, Augusta, Savannah and Athens-Clarke County, all jurisdictions that have attempted to implement steps advised in the White House report but have been blocked by doing so by Gov. Kemp.

In Kemp's defense, he probably has not had the benefit of seeing these recommendations, which again were delivered to the White House Task Force but not made available to those who could actually make use of them. Yet somehow I don't think it would matter to Kemp.

By not releasing this report & similar documents, the Trump WH actively deceives the American people about how best to protect themselves and about the actions that they should be demanding of their public officials. That is not by accident. It is, apparently, the plan.

Source: Jay Bookman, Journalist/author, columnist for the Georgia Recorder

what's wrong with California' eamon big spike here .

Nice try.  Big spike in conservative-infested counties:



But, lest we get the subject changed or anything, what do you make of Kemp fighting against local officials trying to mandate masks? Could he have shares in coffin manufacturers? It would explain a great many things.

[Gmac]

Rethuglican death cult update:

According to a document compiled for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, but withheld from the public, Georgia is one of 18 states in the "red zone" for high caseload growth, and one of 12 in the "red zone" for high positive test results.

"Disease trends are moving in the wrong direction in Georgia with record numbers of new cases in urban, suburban and rural areas," the report warns. GA had 202 new cases for 100,000 population last week, compared to the nationwide average of 119 per 100K population.

The hardest hit counties are Gwinnett, DeKalb & Fulton, which together account for 25.9% of new cases statewide. (Some local officials have tried to respond to that crisis by imposing mask orders and other public-health measures, but Gov. Kemp is fighting hard to stop them.)

Among the report's suggestions for GA:

- "Allow local jurisdictions to implement more restrictive policies"
- "Mandate statewide wearing of cloth face coverings outside the home"
- In counties with high positive rates, "close bars, restrict social distancing in restaurants"

According to the leaked report, deaths in GA were up 65% over the previous week, positive tests were up 20.6%, total tests reported were DOWN 3.3%. So these numbers are not the result of more testing. It also lists specific communities at heightened risk.

Those communities at heightened risk include Atlanta, Augusta, Savannah and Athens-Clarke County, all jurisdictions that have attempted to implement steps advised in the White House report but have been blocked by doing so by Gov. Kemp.

In Kemp's defense, he probably has not had the benefit of seeing these recommendations, which again were delivered to the White House Task Force but not made available to those who could actually make use of them. Yet somehow I don't think it would matter to Kemp.

By not releasing this report & similar documents, the Trump WH actively deceives the American people about how best to protect themselves and about the actions that they should be demanding of their public officials. That is not by accident. It is, apparently, the plan.

Source: Jay Bookman, Journalist/author, columnist for the Georgia Recorder

what's wrong with California' eamon big spike here .

Nice try.  Big spike in conservative-infested counties:



But, lest we get the subject changed or anything, what do you make of Kemp fighting against local officials trying to mandate masks? Could he have shares in coffin manufacturers? It would explain a great many things.

sonoma county as an example do you think that a lot of people from sf are going there because everything is shut down in their own citiy.  Same with Arizona lots went from SoCal when it was closed down at home same with Florida. You are forgetting about New York  , New Jersey governors and the dreadful job they did . I wear a mask inside a public space but not outside.

[Eamonnca1]

Put those goalposts back where you got them. Why is Kemp so determined to de-mask the people of his state that he's willing to fight against local mask mandates?

[Eamonnca1]

Of all the things the Rethuglican governor of Georgia could be doing with his time in the middle of a pandemic, he decides to sue the city of Atlanta to prevent them from enforcing mask rules. How low can this evil death cult go?

Coronavirus: Georgia governor sues Atlanta over face mask rules

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Of all the things the Rethuglican governor of Georgia could be doing with his time in the middle of a pandemic, he decides to sue the city of Atlanta to prevent them from enforcing mask rules. How low can this evil death cult go?

Coronavirus: Georgia governor sues Atlanta over face mask rules

Trump sending unidentifiable Government agents to Oregon rounding up peaceful protestors... how does that fit in with "Conservative Values" that Government should stay out of people's affairs??!!

[Eamonnca1]

Don't worry. The Second Amendment people with basements full of guns will be along any second to overthrow the tyrannical government, just like they've always promised they'd do. ~sarc

[Eamonnca1]

Federal officers showing no insignia, no identification, and driving around in unmarked vehicles, are snatching random people off the street in Portland and abducting them for no f***ing reason. What. The. Actual. f**k. Is happening? This is naked fascism! It's not the beginning of fascism, it's the middle!

This needs to be a four-alarm national outrage! This is exactly what the Second Amendment people, the ones with basements full of guns and ammo, said Would be enough to prompt them to overthrow the tyrannical federal government! Where are they? Why aren't they storming the White House right now?

[Eamonnca1]

Sweet Jesus, are we near the bottom yet?

Georgia Massaged Virus Data to Reopen, Then Voided Mask Orders

Do we have to wait for the gas chambers to become operational before conservatives wake up to the evil monsters they have become?