The US policing crisis thread

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J70

#1155
April 15, 2022, 03:41:47 PM Last Edit: April 15, 2022, 03:45:21 PM by J70
The one in Michigan the other day began with a stop for a damaged tail light and ended up with the cop, sitting on top of the guy's back, shooting him in the back of the head.

Reading the account I was actually sympathetic to the cop for much of it as, leaving aside the necessity to pull him over for such a  minor infraction, the guy was resisting and refusing to cooperate, for whatever reason (he was an African native, so maybe language/culture?)..

Sympathy ended at the moment the cop pulled out the gun and executed him.

armaghniac

#1156
April 15, 2022, 07:34:39 PM
Nowhere in Europe would a policeman shoot you for running away from a stop for a traffic offence. They'd just take away your car and send a couple of guys to arrest you. Notably, the roads in  most parts of Europe are safer than in the USA.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Gmac

#1157
April 15, 2022, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2022, 07:34:39 PM
Nowhere in Europe would a policeman shoot you for running away from a stop for a traffic offence. They'd just take away your car and send a couple of guys to arrest you. Notably, the roads in  most parts of Europe are safer than in the USA.
what if the guy pulled over fought with the cop and tried to get his gun ?

armaghniac

#1158
April 15, 2022, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 15, 2022, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2022, 07:34:39 PM
Nowhere in Europe would a policeman shoot you for running away from a stop for a traffic offence. They'd just take away your car and send a couple of guys to arrest you. Notably, the roads in  most parts of Europe are safer than in the USA.
what if the guy pulled over fought with the cop and tried to get his gun ?

that's why I said send a couple of guys.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Gmac

#1159
April 15, 2022, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2022, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 15, 2022, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 15, 2022, 07:34:39 PM
Nowhere in Europe would a policeman shoot you for running away from a stop for a traffic offence. They'd just take away your car and send a couple of guys to arrest you. Notably, the roads in  most parts of Europe are safer than in the USA.
what if the guy pulled over fought with the cop and tried to get his gun ?

that's why I said send a couple of guys.
when they pull over someone they know who the car is registered too and if said person has a criminal history or any warrants, which is why most people run . I dont think anyone wants a situation to turn deadly but guys who are going back to prison have nothing to lose and don't really care what happens in some circumstances.

whitey

#1160
April 16, 2022, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: J70 on April 15, 2022, 03:41:47 PM
The one in Michigan the other day began with a stop for a damaged tail light and ended up with the cop, sitting on top of the guy's back, shooting him in the back of the head.

Reading the account I was actually sympathetic to the cop for much of it as, leaving aside the necessity to pull him over for such a  minor infraction, the guy was resisting and refusing to cooperate, for whatever reason (he was an African native, so maybe language/culture?)..

Sympathy ended at the moment the cop pulled out the gun and executed him.

Cop should be charged with murder.



J70

#1161
June 10, 2022, 12:52:45 PM
That cop in Michigan has been charged with second degree murder.

I wonder will he be found guilty?

Looks open and shut to me. No matter what led up to it, he was sitting on top of the guy's back, pulled out his gun and put a bullet in his head.

Milltown Row2

#1162
June 10, 2022, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 10, 2022, 12:52:45 PM
That cop in Michigan has been charged with second degree murder.

I wonder will he be found guilty?

Looks open and shut to me. No matter what led up to it, he was sitting on top of the guy's back, pulled out his gun and put a bullet in his head.

Could have done with that courage in Texas the other week..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Gabriel_Hurl

#1163
January 27, 2023, 04:39:21 PM
Sounds like a bad video coming this evening from Memphis.
5 police officers fired and have been charged with murder after the death of Tyre Nichols 3 weeks ago after being stopped for a traffic stop.

J70

#1164
January 27, 2023, 05:08:14 PM
It sounds ominous.

Hopefully the protests are peaceful.

At least in this case the cops have been fired and are going to be prosecuted for murder.

Kidder81

#1165
January 27, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
The cops are also black which will probably quell any disquiet

Probably loads of deleted tweets when their colour was known

J70

#1166
January 27, 2023, 07:11:56 PM Last Edit: January 27, 2023, 07:13:45 PM by J70
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 27, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
The cops are also black which will probably quell any disquiet

Probably loads of deleted tweets when their colour was known

So you're saying people are ok with police brutality and murder if the cops are black??

Maybe the response might be relatively muted because the city government acted correctly in the aftermath, and did so before the video footage was released?

As in we don't have the usual old case of cops getting off scot free or with a slap on the wrist and next thing the video comes out showing a completely different scenario to that sold by the PD?

Look-Up!

#1167
January 28, 2023, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 27, 2023, 07:11:56 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 27, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
The cops are also black which will probably quell any disquiet

Probably loads of deleted tweets when their colour was known

So you're saying people are ok with police brutality and murder if the cops are black??

Maybe the response might be relatively muted because the city government acted correctly in the aftermath, and did so before the video footage was released?

As in we don't have the usual old case of cops getting off scot free or with a slap on the wrist and next thing the video comes out showing a completely different scenario to that sold by the PD?

Incorrect. This latest incident occurred 3 weeks ago. Cops were suspended a week ago, as due process takes time.

In cases where officers are white the pitch forks and fires happen literally next day.

Jell 0 Biafra

#1168
January 28, 2023, 12:46:14 AM
This is true.  White police officers are the most unfairly persecuted  group in the US.  They have literally no-one looking out for them.

J70

#1169
January 28, 2023, 01:11:17 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on January 28, 2023, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 27, 2023, 07:11:56 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 27, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
The cops are also black which will probably quell any disquiet

Probably loads of deleted tweets when their colour was known

So you're saying people are ok with police brutality and murder if the cops are black??

Maybe the response might be relatively muted because the city government acted correctly in the aftermath, and did so before the video footage was released?

As in we don't have the usual old case of cops getting off scot free or with a slap on the wrist and next thing the video comes out showing a completely different scenario to that sold by the PD?

Incorrect. This latest incident occurred 3 weeks ago. Cops were suspended a week ago, as due process takes time.

In cases where officers are white the pitch forks and fires happen literally next day.

Right, that's been the pattern all right. ::)
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