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Anyone know what match will be shown on tv?

Down match at 3pm on RTE then Kerry on TV3 at 5pm

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The other question is will Cassidy have a plan B in case Donegal do like Tyrone and just drop a man back in front of Paddy?

To beat Derry based on the last day you have to ...

1. Break even at midfield - this is very possible. While Derry have good midfielders I think Donegal should be able to break even
2. Stop Mark Lynch running and feeding Eoin Bradley. Lynch was one of the key factors against Monaghan - how often did scores start with him?
3. Man-Mark Eoin Bradley like you're in love with him and force him to kick erratically - because he will do 2 things (a) Shoot (b) Look for Paddy
4. Drop an extra man back in front of Paddy Bradley

If Donegal do that at all they'll be in with a decent shout as the Derry FB line wasn't watertight the last day

why do people keep saying this. Look at Derry's 2nd goal on sat, 5 or 6 yards out, all be it a tight angle, he squared to Kielt for a tap in, great team play. Whilst he is far from the complete player, he is getting there, and as a Derry fan, i would rather cheer for him as against him.

This type of thing annoys me too...I dont think any player deliberately tries to always find another player....I think the more likely reason for this perceived constant play between the two brothers is that when one of them is in a postiion to pass or kick the ball in the player most likely to be in a position to receive that pass or most likely to score is  usually the other brother. What is the difference between this and say Clarke and McDonnell, or Gooch and Donaghy or Canavan and Mugsy.  It just so happens our 2 best forwards are brothers.  Good luck to them and long may it last that they are in the form they were on Saturday past.

Anyone know what match will be shown on tv?

At the moment I see it as Tyrone hot favorites with Kerry probably not far behind if they make it back to Croke park.
After those two....I dont see any real difference between Dublin, Cork, Derry, Galway, Mayo...and after that probably Kildare and Limerick.
If Kerry get knocked out before the semis it's Tyrones for the taking. If not....I think it would be a toss of the coin between the two.

While Kerry can never be counted out - can you put them that high up that on current form?

I think Dublin are close to Cork, then Kildare but I don't think the Connacht teams are in with a realistic shout this year

The way I look at it the only team even at the minute who I would say are likely to beat Kerry are Tyrone. So thats why I would have them #2.

[You's have proved it time and time againg that you's have no balls and itl reappear shorlt. -- And Monaghan have proved time and time again that they are a dirty cynical team that will will not win anything for a long long time as they lack any real footballing skills bar a few diamonds in the rough]

In answer to the question posed earlier about the 90 mins... Nah! the way teams are prepared/rehabbed these days a week is ample time to recover.

We were at least 10 pts better than the Farney men 2day and in all honesty we've played them maybe 6 times since 2005 and we tanked them in 2005 when Monaghan went toe to toe with us and we did it again 2day.

With a full team available we are top4 in the country IMO... Long may it continue!!!!

Screen, no harm but you are one asshole.

10pts my arse. Either of them teams could beat each other on a given day. The difference yesterday was 3 bad goals given away, Monaghan missed their goal chance that should have been converted. We also slipped 2/3 bad points from free's and illdiscipline.

One victory does not make a summer and no way are yous top 4 in country, not with that defence and over reliance on 1 forward.

I look forwrad to you's are back bitching at each other, calling for managers heads, and slapping each other in club football. Cause its nots that far away. You's have proved it time and time againg that you's have no balls and itl reappear shorlt.  -- And Monaghan have proved time and time again that they are a dirty cynical team that will will not win anything for a long long time as they lack any real footballing skills bar a few diamonds in the rough
I have Derry tattooed on my arse.  -- Good man BingoBus....I always thought you were a closet Derry man and with the ass the size of a bus I'm hoping you have it tattooed in good big letters!  

At the moment I see it as Tyrone hot favorites with Kerry probably not far behind if they make it back to Croke park.
After those two....I dont see any real difference between Dublin, Cork, Derry, Galway, Mayo...and after that probably Kildare and Limerick.
If Kerry get knocked out before the semis it's Tyrones for the taking. If not....I think it would be a toss of the coin between the two.

The fact is Derry are not as good as they seemed yesterday but quite a bit better than they were against Tyrone.
I was at the Derry v Donegal league game when donegal were playing to avoid relegation and they were really poor against half a Derry team. But this is championship and traditionally Derry have rarely followed up a good game with another good game so I wouldnt be overly confident.
I do think we are a better side than Donegal. My prediction will be the same as that for the Monaghan game, if Derry have the heads right they will win comfortably....if not, it could well be a Donegal victory. I just hope the players dont get too carried away with themselves after beating a mediocre Monaghan side.

Will this be in Letterkenney or Ballybofey?

[The rumour about an injury was clearly crap.]

The rumour about an injury was clearly crap. The one about him walking out would appear to be true, although the fact that he returned so quickly allowed the denials to be made. Anyway, he ended up in the forward line, so did he get his way, or did Cassidy never have any intention of dragging him out the field?

Anyway, great player though he is, he's a hard man to like. He's not exactly the most humble man i've ever seen after taking a score!

I watched an interview from him getting RTÉ's MOTM award on their website - he has a bit of a dig about the lack of Derry's support today too.

And you know this how? Today like most days after a match this year he will hardly be able to put one leg past the other. He has been carrying knee and thigh injuries for the last while, I suppose the strapping was all just for show as well. Its obvious he isnt as sharp as he has been in previous years and is relying on his strength to hold defenders off.

After the physical and verbal abuse he has took off the Monaghan defenders over the last while he is well entitled to give it back.

If only he was as humble as Tommy Freeman 

Well Derry were the better team on the day and Paddy Bradley did the damage - Mone was on terrible form and probably had his worst game for Monaghan. From a Monaghan point of view, it was a decent showing, although the end result was poor enough.

The old adage that 'goals win matches' was definitely true today - Monaghan with one more score than Derry, but over the crossbar rather than under. Can't help but feel that Freeman could have made the difference there - he wouldn't have missed had he been involved in that chance on goal in the first half.

I have to say, i'm delighted that Hanratty had such a great game - probably his best game for Monaghan since 2007 and answered his critics.


A comment or two on some of the other posts:

The game itself well it was clear to see if ever there was any doubt that a team like Monaghan cannot live with Derry in football terms. The scoreline flattered Monaghan somewhat and without being able to revert to their negative game they had nothing to offer really.

I think today showed that when it comes down to football, Monaghan just cant compete with Derry.

Surely these are both very arrogant comments? Derry were the better team, no doubt, but I wouldn't say they're in a different league. Derry won by 5 points and as i've said above, Derry scored 19 times, Monaghan scored 20 - the goals were the difference. Monaghan were without Freeman, and despite our forwards having a good day at the office, Tommy was sorely missed - let's not forget that Bradley, Derry's star forward, scored 2-08, over half of Derry's score - take that one player out of the equation and it's a different scenario - Tommy is Monaghan's star forward.
To say Monaghan have "nothing to offer" is extremely ignorant - whilst Monaghan lost today, they still stuck over 20 points, most of them from play. It was a good result for Derry, but don't get carried away.

I dont think these are arrogant statements at all...just simply backing up what quite a few of us have been saying for that last couple of years.   The Monaghan team is not as good as Derry, simple as that.  Derry were at least 10 points the better side yesterday and you cant argue with that. Yes Freeman would have been a help to Monaghan, but like Monaghan feeling Freeman should have been available  we should have had McGuckian who pretty much marked Freeman out of it the last day so all things being equal I dont think there would have been any difference in the result or the manner of result.  The fact is that the Monaghan forwards were living off scraps for a large part of the game, but still manageed 20 and thats the major cause for concern for Derry at this stage.
I think you yourslef were saying during the week that its possible to minimise Bradleys impact on the game...well the fact is that Monaghan were not able to do that so to say that if you take Bradley out of the game is a bit pointless when Monaghan were unable to do so and I'm sure they were trying to.
I dont think anyone is getting carried away...no-one mentioned all-irelenads or anything of the like. We are simply stating that we are a better footballing side then Monaghan. Thats not getting carried away, just fact.

In fairness to Monaghan they played well at times and the fact that they didnt resort to the usual, lets call them "physical" tactics, contributed to a very yenjoyable game of football. Monaghan have 5-6 excellent players who are a joy to watch but the rest are too far behind in terms of skill. I alos thought it was a credit to the Monaghan supporters staying on after the game to applaud their team off the pitch....you dont often see that these days.

A slightly unrelated point....we were stitting in the middle of Monaghan supporters (not much choice in that with the small numbers of derry supporters) but they all seemed to have a real dislike of Clerkin and were calling for him to be taken off from the throw in. Now I dont like the man, but I thought that was a bit much. Is there a feeling in Mongahan thant the team would be better without him?

Excellent result for Derry...I predicted during the week that if Derry had their heads right they would win comfortably and thankfully that was the case.  I think today showed that when it comes down to football, Monaghan just cant compete with Derry. Monaghan didnt resort to their usual rough house tactics and it resulted in an open game which was very enjoyable....I'm glad I went now!

Yes Derry have a bit to work on...particularly after conceding 20 points but there were a lot more positives after this game than the Tyrone one. I think tactically we got it 100% right and we seemed to be playing as a team rather than a collection of individual.
Hopefully we can improve now for the next game and with McGuckian back it will strengthen us further at the back.

If that was Paddy Bradley playing injured today...I think we should keep him injured all year!
I thought Eoin Bradley, Kielt (yes I usually dont like Kielt), Lynch, Diver, Doc, Patsy, Gerard O'Kane were all excellent, but no-one was particularly bad. In the form Hanratty was in it was only going to be damage limitation....thought he was Monaghans best player. Ronaghan also very good.

When is the draw for the next round?

Hanratty could do with a haircut before he can be taken seriously...to much vidal sassoon that boy 

Seriously though I think he's one of those "has real potential" players. Really fast, has a bit of skill but his decision making lets him down. This should improve with experience. One for the future I would think.

I've absolutely no idea what way this game will go. It's probably a cert that there'll be a few early cards apart from that it's impossible to call. Monaghan were dire last week and still beat Armagh so that will give them a lift. Derry were poor against Tyrone and with all the other problems in recent weeks it's impossible to know if it has had an effect on the players. And now Niall McCusker is out for the year too. 
If Derry have their heads right, I think they should win comfortably...otherwise an uncomfortable 2 point defeat.

I wont disagree with you there MAguire.....however I'm hoping with the emergence of Eoin Bradley, Seamus Bradley and to a lesser extent James Kielt (...give him a few years) we might finally get that kind of balance.

As for the logistics, if people left in decent time for Casement there wouldn't be a problem.

I left Coalisland 2 and a half hours befor kickoff and still missed the first 10 minutes even though throw-in was delayed by 10.
45 miles in 2.5 hours....I think I allowed plenty of time given I travel to belfast every day in rush hour traffic and rarely need so much time.

Maguire01, he still managed 1-03 out of youse the last day.

3-19 in four championship games v monaghan

1-10 of that was in one game in 2005 (when admittedly he pretty much destroyed us).
2-09 (26 points) over 3 games is a more realistic statistic, relating as it does to the past 3 years. It's a decent score, if nothing exceptional for a full forward.
Tommy scored 15 points in the same games.

I wonder how much he'll score this weekend.....oh wait....       

Personally my vote would be for anywhere other than Clones!
Clones is a hole. Roads are crap...parking is crap....bogs are crap....and it's full of Monaghan heurs 
Casement though was a disaster for the Tryone game. So badly organised for traffic and parking that I know of quite a few people who didnt even bother going in as it was so late by the time the made it anywhere close to Casement. The grounds themselves are very good IMO but unless they sort out the logistics of match day traffic there's no way an Ulster final should be there.

So in answer to the thread topic....Yes on the proviso that the parking and traffic is properly organised and that there enough stewards/cops to manage the day.