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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: June 11, 2021, 12:48:34 PM »
The cost of living has gone up a good bit with things like that. I think restaurants are up a good few quid on things like main course price too and then small things like haircuts etc are up too. I think in general the world has just got a lot more expensive...

I wouldn't know  :D

Anyways, wife was telling me that the South are requiring pet passports for entering the South ffs!! I've two dogs and was looking to head down for a break, has there been an out break of rabies in the south.. My dogs are Irish so will they need a passport?  ::)

Yes dog passports are required for taking them to the South, with the exception of Irish Setter or Kerry Blue Terrier breeds.

German Shepherds are fine going down but you ll need the passport to get back and will have to go via Larne for a vet check

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GAA Discussion / Re: Friday Night Football
« on: June 10, 2021, 11:26:00 AM »
Seeing this debate going on with Armagh on Twitter and and a county player (who funnily enough can’t play for his club) calling for Friday/Saturday night games. The reality is you can’t please everyone all of the time. What I would say though is if you’re raging you can’t drink every weekend then maybe senior football isn’t for you.

Personally I think Friday night games should be used as and when they are practical. If two clubs are within 15/20 mins of each other then they should be given a Friday night fixture. Any club with suitable floodlighting should be given Friday night fixtures for their home games.

Saturday games are a bit different. If you’ve lads playing soccer, you may well be forcing them to choose. Also younger lads, students etc with part time jobs. Are you going to ask them to sacrifice their income to come play and possibly sit on the bench? Also the thing on the drinking culture. The lads in our club don’t need a second invitation. They might go at it of a Sunday after a match, but they’ll be working Monday and training Tuesday. If they went at it of a satry you can guarantee Sunday will be another pint show. Makes Monday training almost pointless.

If thats the case then maybe senior football isnt for you

But surely a Friday night game gives these lads the option of both? Personally I never played soccer because I could not afford it when I was living at home because I needed the Saturday work to pay the bills as a student. I played football on a Sunday so that was fine.

I know plenty of older guys who are happy with the Friday night because they now have Sunday with the family. Even if you are training its an hour/90 min at 10/11 in the morning an then the rest of the day free rather than away for six hours for an away game if you are involved in both games.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: June 07, 2021, 02:14:15 PM »
I'd be willing to bet it will be "settled" before it gets to the courts. Joe is really a tiresome, egotistical man. As has been said here multiple times, its all about him and his constant whining and talking over people should have been nipped in the bud well before he was taken off TSG. That being said he is clearly playing a game and has worked out how to maximise his commercial returns through controversy. He is best ignored in my view (and yes I do see the irony in commenting about him!  :D)

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 26, 2021, 07:59:11 AM »
Not signing Kabak and looking to meet Konate’s release clause
Talk of Leicester City interested in Kabak.
I was impressed enough with him to be fair to him. He seemed to want to stay also as you expect him to with a club like Liverpool.
Know very little about Konate, did he play in the Champions League games against Liverpool?

I thought Kabak was more than decent. Only at fault once or twice in a stuttering team and paired with a 2nd rate central defender. If he could concentrate on the game better he'd be a first class defender. Good touch, good temperament, clean tackler, confident on the ball, decent defensively in the air. He's at the very least the equal of Joe Gomez and with a bit of work could turn into a vastly superior player.

Kabak for £18m would have been a no brainer 2 years ago but transfer fees will be much lower this year, except for the premium players like Kane etc.

In my opinion you are underestimating Gomez. I think his role in that team gets overlooked because of VVD. He is a top CH. Very pacy and good on the ball stepping up into midfield which is crucial to the way Liverpool play. He is prone to the odd poor positioning decision and possibly not as strong in the air as Kabak but I would have him some distance ahead of him. I do realise I am possibly being unfair on Kabak in that while I think he did OK, I suspect if he had played alongside VVD for 2 years instead of Hendo/Fabinho/Williams/Phillips etc he would undoubtedly have looked more settled.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 20, 2021, 09:24:02 AM »
It's obvious that the people who are refusing the vaccine don't have a lot of intelligence.

That kind of sh*te sickens me hole. I bet ya you're fierce intelligent - according to yourself ;D. Personally I will take it, for the simple reason I see it as the only viable solution out of the crisis, stop variants of potentially far worse strains developing.
I would not for one second look down at those who have educated themselves enough to make a clear decision (cost/benefit analysis) not to the the vaccine. I know plently of educated people who for their own good reason will not take the vaccine. The my body my choice pro abortion birgrade, suddenely have turned the opposite, this hyprosicy pisses me off too. My kids all under 15 won't be getting it.
Trailer a bit like Sid, you have little crediability here, have a read of your posts from earlier in this thread ffs. You disappeared for 6 months & thought you could re-invent yourself, maybe you read a chit load of books on everything & now you're an over night expert ;D Or maybe somebody else has taken over your account.

That's the key for me. I am sceptical about the stats that are thrown about like a 20 year old has a x% chance of dying from Covid but a y% chance of developing a blood clot from the vaccine etc so why should they get the vaccine?. Most of the stats I have seen quoted from people against the vaccine only take into account mortality and not potential longterm issues which I suspect would significantly change the outcome if you were able to include them. If you take society as a whole then it clearly is beneficial to have as many people vaccinated as possible as it reduces transmission and the chances that a  new, deadlier variant comes along that impacts everyone.

All hypothetical but is it reasonable that a small proportion of people (say the 20 year olds) are significantly increasing the chances that a new, more deadly strain develops because they are ensuring the virus lives on by their increased transmission rates?

What about the long term effects of the vaccine?

Long term effects of Covid and long term effects of vaccines cancel each other out.

Just out of curiosity what are you basing that statement on? I dont agree with your arguments on vaccine and as I have said previously I believe that it is a selfish approach to remain unvaccinated because of a person's individual demographic at a point in time there "might" be a (very) marginally lower chance of health problems from Covid than from the vaccine based on current data. (Although as I say I am sceptical about this). Given that these risks are so small anyway I think it is absolutely the wrong approach  but people have a right to be selfish so I am not getting into that.

However, to the best of my knowledge there is no data about the longterm effect of the vaccine so what is that sweeping statement based on?

What do we know about long term effects of the vaccine? Nothing.

What do we know about long term effects of Covid. Not a lot.

But it suits some people's narratives go cite one as a reason and dismiss the other. And it's usually the pro-vaxx zealots who demand people get it and want everyone who doesn't shamed or coerced.

It's a personal choice. When you see a few eejits like Trailer calling people uneducated because they don't see an upside into getting it and wanting sanctions put on them for exercising their own decisions then IMO it's people like him who are not only uneducated but dangerous. 90% of people who are getting the vaccine or doing so because they are being told to or being coerced into it.

I look at it from the point of view, which is backed up by statistical data, Covid is not a threat to my demograph. There's more chance of me sitting into my car today, driving 20 miles and dying or getting seriously injured than there is of getting Covid and dying of getting seriously injured.

I wonder do these same zealots who demand people get the vaccine, those who vilify, shame and insult those who choose not to get the flu jab every year or are they just moronic hypocrites. It's people like these who are a fickle mob and no doubt would have been front and centre when Hitler was whipping up Nazi Germany.

The first two parts I have highlighted contradict your original sweeping statement as there is evidence of  Long term Covid health problems while you are just making an assumption that there will be long term problems with the vaccine in the future. You may be proved right (personally I doubt it) but my point is you cannot make that statement as it sits now. You claim later in your paragraph you are making a call on whether to have the vaccine based on statistical data which may be fair enough (depending what statistics you choose to use) but blatantly apply your own subjective opinion rather than data when you claimed

Long term effects of Covid and long term effects of vaccines cancel each other out.

Lastly, as I pointed out above, your demographic may be very marginally at less risk from Covid  compared to the the vaccine. Again, I would question what statistics you use but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. However, in my view (and I am sure I could find the statistics to back this up if I choose to) society as a whole  is better off the more people are vaccinated in terms of lower transmission, lower hospitalisation rates, greater freedoms and crucially less chance for a variant to develop that either changes the numbers for your demographic in terms of mortality etc or more worryingly is resistant to the vaccine as a whole. Rather confusingly, while you seem concerned for the potential longterm future issues with the vaccine to the extent you make a subjective statement on it but you do not seem to share the same concern for potential variants developing (for which there is statistical evidence for) and which have the potential to set us back months in combatting Covid and have the  potential for unnecessary deaths.

My opinion is that people like you who dont get the vaccine based on a minute delta between the chances of dying from Covid or reacting badly to the vaccine are absolutely being selfish and  its two fingers up to the rest of society. You use the analogy of driving in the car being riskier than developing Covid but obviously you have no issue in driving because it suits you. I would guess the same applies to getting the vaccine in the sense it is less risky than driving your 20 miles but as far as this is concerned you have deemed vaccination too risky even though it will benefit others. Absolutely your choice but I assume you can see that is not exactly a selfless act.
Clearly they do not contradict each other.

Anyone who cites one and dismisses the other is being a hypocrite.

Both are unknown, the difference is you choose to get the vaccine, you may never get Covid.

The statistics I cite are there on the Covid dashboard. 7 deaths in around 65k cases in the u40s.


I said they contradicted your statement that Long term effects of Covid and long term effects of vaccines cancel each other out.[/b], not that they contradicted each other. I am not sure if you are referring to me as citing them but for clarity I certainly did not cite one or the other apart from to say there is evidence of longterm effects of Covid which I think is well accepted. Obviously if you have anything to challenge that statement with please post it.

My point was that you made a sweeping statement about something and then one post later said that there was zero evidence to underpin said statement. That does not necessarily make it wrong as its impossible to prove at this point but I am sure if someone said All U25s who do not get vaccinated will develop a new strain of Covid within 1 year and 25% will die you would (quite reasonably ) be one of the first people calling them out on this. Much like your statement above, you could not disprove it but there is zero evidence to back it up and its misleading.

I'm not getting into an argument about the rights and wrongs of whether people should get the vaccine or not. I think my position is pretty clear on this. While I respect people's right to not get it, I think it is a selfish act and I do think that those people should accept that this decision may have consequences in terms of where they can travel to, socialise etc because there is evidence that these people present a greater risk to society as a whole than people who have been vaccinated.

You claim on multiple threads how people dont like your "debating" style and how you look to the statistics etc. If that is the case stick to the stats and stop making unsubstantiated statements that are at best unproven and a worst wholly inaccurate. I have absolutely no issue in you saying that you think history will prove that the longterm effects of the vaccine will cancel out the long term effect of covid and we can debate the merits of your opinion and why you think that. Just dont present is as a fact to challenge a point when its clearly not and then hold yourself up as  some great debater.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 20, 2021, 08:10:51 AM »
It's obvious that the people who are refusing the vaccine don't have a lot of intelligence.

That kind of sh*te sickens me hole. I bet ya you're fierce intelligent - according to yourself ;D. Personally I will take it, for the simple reason I see it as the only viable solution out of the crisis, stop variants of potentially far worse strains developing.
I would not for one second look down at those who have educated themselves enough to make a clear decision (cost/benefit analysis) not to the the vaccine. I know plently of educated people who for their own good reason will not take the vaccine. The my body my choice pro abortion birgrade, suddenely have turned the opposite, this hyprosicy pisses me off too. My kids all under 15 won't be getting it.
Trailer a bit like Sid, you have little crediability here, have a read of your posts from earlier in this thread ffs. You disappeared for 6 months & thought you could re-invent yourself, maybe you read a chit load of books on everything & now you're an over night expert ;D Or maybe somebody else has taken over your account.

That's the key for me. I am sceptical about the stats that are thrown about like a 20 year old has a x% chance of dying from Covid but a y% chance of developing a blood clot from the vaccine etc so why should they get the vaccine?. Most of the stats I have seen quoted from people against the vaccine only take into account mortality and not potential longterm issues which I suspect would significantly change the outcome if you were able to include them. If you take society as a whole then it clearly is beneficial to have as many people vaccinated as possible as it reduces transmission and the chances that a  new, deadlier variant comes along that impacts everyone.

All hypothetical but is it reasonable that a small proportion of people (say the 20 year olds) are significantly increasing the chances that a new, more deadly strain develops because they are ensuring the virus lives on by their increased transmission rates?

What about the long term effects of the vaccine?

Long term effects of Covid and long term effects of vaccines cancel each other out.

Just out of curiosity what are you basing that statement on? I dont agree with your arguments on vaccine and as I have said previously I believe that it is a selfish approach to remain unvaccinated because of a person's individual demographic at a point in time there "might" be a (very) marginally lower chance of health problems from Covid than from the vaccine based on current data. (Although as I say I am sceptical about this). Given that these risks are so small anyway I think it is absolutely the wrong approach  but people have a right to be selfish so I am not getting into that.

However, to the best of my knowledge there is no data about the longterm effect of the vaccine so what is that sweeping statement based on?

What do we know about long term effects of the vaccine? Nothing.

What do we know about long term effects of Covid. Not a lot.

But it suits some people's narratives go cite one as a reason and dismiss the other. And it's usually the pro-vaxx zealots who demand people get it and want everyone who doesn't shamed or coerced.

It's a personal choice. When you see a few eejits like Trailer calling people uneducated because they don't see an upside into getting it and wanting sanctions put on them for exercising their own decisions then IMO it's people like him who are not only uneducated but dangerous. 90% of people who are getting the vaccine or doing so because they are being told to or being coerced into it.

I look at it from the point of view, which is backed up by statistical data, Covid is not a threat to my demograph. There's more chance of me sitting into my car today, driving 20 miles and dying or getting seriously injured than there is of getting Covid and dying of getting seriously injured.

I wonder do these same zealots who demand people get the vaccine, those who vilify, shame and insult those who choose not to get the flu jab every year or are they just moronic hypocrites. It's people like these who are a fickle mob and no doubt would have been front and centre when Hitler was whipping up Nazi Germany.

The first two parts I have highlighted contradict your original sweeping statement as there is evidence of  Long term Covid health problems while you are just making an assumption that there will be long term problems with the vaccine in the future. You may be proved right (personally I doubt it) but my point is you cannot make that statement as it sits now. You claim later in your paragraph you are making a call on whether to have the vaccine based on statistical data which may be fair enough (depending what statistics you choose to use) but blatantly apply your own subjective opinion rather than data when you claimed

Long term effects of Covid and long term effects of vaccines cancel each other out.
[/quote]

Lastly, as I pointed out above, your demographic may be very marginally at less risk from Covid  compared to the the vaccine. Again, I would question what statistics you use but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. However, in my view (and I am sure I could find the statistics to back this up if I choose to) society as a whole  is better off the more people are vaccinated in terms of lower transmission, lower hospitalisation rates, greater freedoms and crucially less chance for a variant to develop that either changes the numbers for your demographic in terms of mortality etc or more worryingly is resistant to the vaccine as a whole. Rather confusingly, while you seem concerned for the potential longterm future issues with the vaccine to the extent you make a subjective statement on it but you do not seem to share the same concern for potential variants developing (for which there is statistical evidence for) and which have the potential to set us back months in combatting Covid and have the  potential for unnecessary deaths.

My opinion is that people like you who dont get the vaccine based on a minute delta between the chances of dying from Covid or reacting badly to the vaccine are absolutely being selfish and  its two fingers up to the rest of society. You use the analogy of driving in the car being riskier than developing Covid but obviously you have no issue in driving because it suits you. I would guess the same applies to getting the vaccine in the sense it is less risky than driving your 20 miles but as far as this is concerned you have deemed vaccination too risky even though it will benefit others. Absolutely your choice but I assume you can see that is not exactly a selfless act.


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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 19, 2021, 03:00:50 PM »
It's obvious that the people who are refusing the vaccine don't have a lot of intelligence.

That kind of sh*te sickens me hole. I bet ya you're fierce intelligent - according to yourself ;D. Personally I will take it, for the simple reason I see it as the only viable solution out of the crisis, stop variants of potentially far worse strains developing.
I would not for one second look down at those who have educated themselves enough to make a clear decision (cost/benefit analysis) not to the the vaccine. I know plently of educated people who for their own good reason will not take the vaccine. The my body my choice pro abortion birgrade, suddenely have turned the opposite, this hyprosicy pisses me off too. My kids all under 15 won't be getting it.
Trailer a bit like Sid, you have little crediability here, have a read of your posts from earlier in this thread ffs. You disappeared for 6 months & thought you could re-invent yourself, maybe you read a chit load of books on everything & now you're an over night expert ;D Or maybe somebody else has taken over your account.

That's the key for me. I am sceptical about the stats that are thrown about like a 20 year old has a x% chance of dying from Covid but a y% chance of developing a blood clot from the vaccine etc so why should they get the vaccine?. Most of the stats I have seen quoted from people against the vaccine only take into account mortality and not potential longterm issues which I suspect would significantly change the outcome if you were able to include them. If you take society as a whole then it clearly is beneficial to have as many people vaccinated as possible as it reduces transmission and the chances that a  new, deadlier variant comes along that impacts everyone.

All hypothetical but is it reasonable that a small proportion of people (say the 20 year olds) are significantly increasing the chances that a new, more deadly strain develops because they are ensuring the virus lives on by their increased transmission rates?

What about the long term effects of the vaccine?

Long term effects of Covid and long term effects of vaccines cancel each other out.

Just out of curiosity what are you basing that statement on? I dont agree with your arguments on vaccine and as I have said previously I believe that it is a selfish approach to remain unvaccinated because of a person's individual demographic at a point in time there "might" be a (very) marginally lower chance of health problems from Covid than from the vaccine based on current data. (Although as I say I am sceptical about this). Given that these risks are so small anyway I think it is absolutely the wrong approach  but people have a right to be selfish so I am not getting into that.

However, to the best of my knowledge there is no data about the longterm effect of the vaccine so what is that sweeping statement based on?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 19, 2021, 02:03:10 PM »
It's obvious that the people who are refusing the vaccine don't have a lot of intelligence.

That kind of sh*te sickens me hole. I bet ya you're fierce intelligent - according to yourself ;D. Personally I will take it, for the simple reason I see it as the only viable solution out of the crisis, stop variants of potentially far worse strains developing.
I would not for one second look down at those who have educated themselves enough to make a clear decision (cost/benefit analysis) not to the the vaccine. I know plently of educated people who for their own good reason will not take the vaccine. The my body my choice pro abortion birgrade, suddenely have turned the opposite, this hyprosicy pisses me off too. My kids all under 15 won't be getting it.
Trailer a bit like Sid, you have little crediability here, have a read of your posts from earlier in this thread ffs. You disappeared for 6 months & thought you could re-invent yourself, maybe you read a chit load of books on everything & now you're an over night expert ;D Or maybe somebody else has taken over your account.

That's the key for me. I am sceptical about the stats that are thrown about like a 20 year old has a x% chance of dying from Covid but a y% chance of developing a blood clot from the vaccine etc so why should they get the vaccine?. Most of the stats I have seen quoted from people against the vaccine only take into account mortality and not potential longterm issues which I suspect would significantly change the outcome if you were able to include them. If you take society as a whole then it clearly is beneficial to have as many people vaccinated as possible as it reduces transmission and the chances that a  new, deadlier variant comes along that impacts everyone.

All hypothetical but is it reasonable that a small proportion of people (say the 20 year olds) are significantly increasing the chances that a new, more deadly strain develops because they are ensuring the virus lives on by their increased transmission rates?

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: May 19, 2021, 01:24:45 PM »
Throw in Kane (and Salah) bein mad to finish top scorer. Few twists and turns yet...

We might see Salah being selfish these last two games then.... ;)

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: May 19, 2021, 07:22:15 AM »
The most common side effects for all three drugs were fever and headache. Other reported adverse reactions included nausea, joint pain, and dizziness.
That report fails to mention an additional side-effect of the vaccine: Not dying.

we don't know enough about the long term side effects yet.  It's quite possible that a large percentage of those vaccinated may die.

I'd go as so far as to say 100% of people vaccinated will die.

 ;D ;D Careful now, there are a few people on here will be quoting you as a verified source

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: May 14, 2021, 12:52:02 PM »
So everything will depend on the Chelsea Leicester game as to which of these will drop out of top four, Liverpool have by far the easiest run it, West Brom are the worst team in the league, Burnely secured survival and on the beach and at home to Woy's team in his last game against the team he used to manage..

I think Chelsea will miss out if they lose to Leicester, they have the FA cup final, which is the bigger game? the FA cup final or the league match?

And one eye on the CL Final....It could be a stellar season for Chelsea or a complete disaster


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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 13, 2021, 09:12:23 AM »
Trailer did you used to be stallion? You do come across very like him.

One way to find out.

Trailer what are your thoughts on Steven Caulker?  ;)
 

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: May 07, 2021, 07:51:36 AM »
Never drank at college (90-94) so was able to go out every night, had a weekly routine, think the Chaplency was a Monday night for the Irish night, great craic. The crescent was a regular spot but never felt safe in it, the Union ran a great night (might have been Weds?), actually had my stag night in it (got married the week after my finals, think i was the only student in Belfast that was engaged at college, this partly explains why I didn’t drink. The best spot was I think called The Elms, it was just before you came to Lavery’s, some great bands in it, think it may have been the Thursday night spot. Lavery’s was a complete no no then days, full of the Village gentlemen, Hatfield also a definite no no then, was locals only. Bishops on a Sunday evening was the great food wise, beside that was a constant diet of spuds, beans and sausages and penguin biscuits that I shared with the mice in my bedroom, except my final year I lived in Stranmillis when Sphinx and the Chinese beside it were my local chefs. Have two children up there now, really feel for them as covid has wrecked a year and a half of their college life, holy lands is full of Romanians now.
I was around the same era, Blackthorn in the Elms on.a Thursday was a big draw back then , the Fly on a Tuesday night was popular too,as were   The Bot,& Renshaws , , we would have been in the middle bar in laverys  regularly enough back then and never had any hassle to be honest . ,Spuds or Bishops being the late night eating houses

Thought the Elms was a good spot and had good times in the Bot and the Egg too. The Students Union was also hard to beat back in the mid 90's at £1 a pint.
Could never warm to Renshaws though.

Unions went to shite around 2000, drink wasn't that cheap. I was in Jordanstown halls in first year and only hit the union up there a handful of times and never really warmed to Queens Union. Brother was in Queens late 80s and they lived in the unions. Said houses were cold and shit and the union was cheaper than off licenses.

UUJ union had a fry and tea for £1 in first year but it got done up after that and it went up to about £3 after that.
Getting a pint and a (very small) pizza in the empire for £1 was hard to beat,  in my 
 fresher year it was £0.95 a pint  out at the poly union.

£6.50 being quoted in the papers for a pint in Belfast, ......and 2 pints, 2 toastie with chips £37, in Belfast.....wtf

Where is that? That is ridiculous, I know the pubs have had extra costs and lower numbers but if those prices are maintained its hard to see trade returning to pre Covid levels.

Any of you guys frequent the Lavery's £10 "drink all you want (can? ;)) nights in the late 90s? We ended up at a couple of them and we knew one of thebarmen well. Absolute carnage and by far the worst hangover I have ever had. My mate is convinced it was nt the volume of drink but the "quality" of some of the spirits being doled out.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: May 04, 2021, 04:39:36 PM »
Reading through that last few pages really brings me back to the shit holes that I lived in/stayed in on nights out back in the day. Did the Halls the first year, stayed in Shaftesbury, the woman at the time stayed in one of the towers. Jeez they were some mess!

When I got my long trousers and moved to a house we did Wellesley Ave and then Wolsley Street. It may as well have been South Armagh, East Tyrone and South Derry with the wee posh Down f**kers sprinkled around. On Wolsley street there were 3 houses from Cross and surrounding area, 2 from Tyrone and 1 Down. I remember one night the Tyrone house went on fire....some craic! 

The free for all in ‘Shaws, always a f**king queue but Tommy on the door let us in if we bunked it!  Place full of jersey huggers and hallions. Some nights drinking with Bellaghy and Errigal Ciaran boys after Ulster championship games!  Then down to Hatfield for out of date beers at half price on Carry out at 3am ;D

Good old Tommy, "Lads f**k off over to Dukes for an hour  would you and I'll give you a shout when it calms down a bit"

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: May 04, 2021, 04:37:57 PM »
You wouldn't have kept a Jack Russell in some of the kips on Wellesley Ave.

A Jack Russell would have been safer up those streets than down near Renshaws, bit too close to Kam Wah in botanic....

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