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I say they not the strongest team in Derry at this level, I still think Banagher stronger than them, result aside. Within a couple of years, once the Derry senior league at 12, Derry Intermediate teams will be strong, which normally hasn't been the case odd 25yrs with some exceptions. Ballinderry although young, I seen a few times this year and they be way stronger I think, than any team in the, Ulster Intermediate this year, only Coleraine be fit to put it up to them in Derry,

That's what Cavan done a few years ago. Reduced Senior to 12, 14 in Intermediate and 14 in Junior.
Hence why Arva are down in Junior.

They have only been in Division 1 since this year, and stayed up in a play off. Ye are doing a lot of complaining about it

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case

Westmeath weren't going to be winning the All Ireland this year , didn't mean they weren't happy to compete in the All Ireland series after winning the Tailtean. Same with Meath next year. They want to get better and improve.

Can't understand why people are so baffled by Glenullin still being intermediate, Steelstown won an All Ireland, went up to Derry senior and got tanked in their first year and Glenullin are far off the pace with them. Also consider Ballinderry and Coleraine, multiple Derry senior championships between them are in Derry Intermeidate next year

Because in most other counties when you win Junior or Intermediate you are promoted not stuck in the same championship the following year.

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When you strip it all back, the All Ireland Intermediate and Junior competitions aren't really fit for purpose. The sentiment at the time of their creation was in the right spirit. But when you look at it, both competitions operate on a skewed playing field. There are huge disparities in how counties run their internal competitions.

Disagree entirely, these are excellent competitions that give a whole raft of players and clubs chances of provincial glory and maybe even the chance of bringing the parish to Croker.
Whilst of course it's virtually impossible to align grades across counties, that's simply a function of the county populations. How could the 20th best team in Leitrim be expected to compete with Galway's 20th best team for example (I don't think Leitrim have 20 teams!).
For a junior or intermediate club, win your own county, enjoy it and then if you think you've a chance, have a crack at going further - but it's bonus territory.
As some have said arva might be strong for junior, but it looks like they're well off senior, so this is their chance to give the club a day out and go on a run that might be remembered for decades.

Most county junior champs have pretty much zero chance though, that's the problem. You manage to prevail in Ulster, the likelihood is you'll either face a Kerry Div 1 team in the semi or final
Regardless of how certain Cavan men in here try to paint this, Arva with a plethora of county men plying their trade in Div 1 and competing in Junior is unfair in the extreme (both in the Cavan junior championship and Ulster)

Cavan restructured the Intermediate and Junior championship 2 years ago because there was too many teams in Senior. 3 teams went down to Junior. Arva had players in Australia and some injured and were one of the teams relegated to Junior. League and Championship is separate in Cavan , like it is in lots of counties outside Ulster.

What's also not Fair is Glenullin winning Derry intermediate last year and this year and still being allowed compete in Ulster. What is the point of that

Clarke's red was inexplicable, dunno what he was at.

He seemed to be boiling over for a while,before the sending off. Probably annoyed with how they were playing, and off the ball stuff

No Score in the second half.

Trillick playing good stuff now. Brennan has a bit of class. Grey a good young forward. Richie Donnelly solid around the middle

Shocking game.

Everton's new stadium is coming along 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZbsuO-5Xzw&t=9s&pp=ygUTZXZlcnRvbiBuZXcgc3RhZGl1bQ%3D%3D

A bit more annoyance with the structure after the game yesterday

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Makes you wonder why Kerry only deem 8 of their clubs worthy of being senior level at any one time...

So they can have very competitive Senior Championship instead of having a load of Clubs most of whose only aim is to stay Senior with never a hope of competing for the Title.

That's a bit of a nonsense. They could have 12 Senior clubs and the rest of Divisional teams. 64 clubs in Kerry , there is more then 8 who are Senior standard.

Some of the Divisional teams like East Kerry are made up of 8 or 9 clubs. They would still be strong with less clubs.

Sean Kelly even said there should be more clubs in senior

Benny, the standard was poor shite. Compared to previous finals! Shouldnt be oh the occasion!!

It pissed rain before the game. There was lots of mistakes but exciting all the same. NZ played a good chunk of the game with 14 men

Some crazy drop goal attempts from South Africa

Leeds giving Huddersfield a hammering.

Birmingham look set for a 3rd under Rooney. What were they at sacking John Eustace. They were in the play offs and now sliding down the League

It was Sean Kelly, he was behind the concept of Divisional teams with 8 Senior teams but feels it has run its course

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41252611.html

Not if the other teams continue to struggle. Sheffield United have 1 pt from 9 games. Bournemouth yet to win a game. Burnley are very open,

The standard of teams in the bottom half is really poor so Everton would probaly still survive with a 12 deduction.

The 3 teams that were promoted, are probaly the worst 3 to go up ever. Add in Bournemouth who are awful