Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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bennydorano

Quote from: screenexile on March 09, 2024, 01:25:27 PMIt's only seen as impressive because Fury was clearly not interested first time around.


That's exactly how Ngannou should fare against a heavyweight contender. You can read very little into how AJ will do in his next fight against an actual boxer!
What about his last one? His rehabilitation is going rightly.

If Fury loses to Usyk (on current form it's likely) a Battle of Britain blockbuster is surely on the cards - belts or not. No point AJ fighting Usyk again but him v Fury would be worth watching.

nrico2006

Boxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

tonto1888

Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:24 PMBoxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.

Beating Ngannu, who isnt a boxer, and Wallin doesnt mean he could beat Usyk or Fury

NAG1

Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:24 PMBoxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.

Don't he has the mentality to beat either, which is a pity as I would love to see him beat Fury all around the ring.

I don't think either Fury or AJ are beating Usyk as things stand at the moment.

Armagh18

If Furys head is in the right place he'd beat AJ blindfold. If he fucks about like he did against Ngannou AJ could beat him. Wonder will the Usyk fight actually happen this time.

samuel maguire

Quote from: tonto1888 on March 11, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:24 PMBoxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.

Beating Ngannu, who isnt a boxer, and Wallin doesnt mean he could beat Usyk or Fury

Well said. All these fan boys on here talking about AJ getting his mojo back, ffs catch yourselves on. This is why casual fans should just watch these sports and not gibe their opinions

DuffleKing

Quote from: bennydorano on March 09, 2024, 12:43:41 AMImagine what Tyson could do to that Jake Paul clown

Tyson is near 60 ffs. Paul is a 27 year old with serious power in his hands. There's no upside to this for Tyson and Paul is trying to leverage credibility off his bname. Odd one.

JoG2

Quote from: tonto1888 on March 11, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:24 PMBoxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.

Beating Ngannu, who isnt a boxer, and Wallin doesnt mean he could beat Usyk or Fury

Usyk, Joshua and then Fury in that order. Fury's boxing CV took some battering in Saudi on the 23rd Dec.

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on March 11, 2024, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 11, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:24 PMBoxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.

Beating Ngannu, who isnt a boxer, and Wallin doesnt mean he could beat Usyk or Fury

Usyk, Joshua and then Fury in that order. Fury's boxing CV took some battering in Saudi on the 23rd Dec.
Really?

bennydorano

Quote from: DuffleKing on March 11, 2024, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 09, 2024, 12:43:41 AMImagine what Tyson could do to that Jake Paul clown

Tyson is near 60 ffs. Paul is a 27 year old with serious power in his hands. There's no upside to this for Tyson and Paul is trying to leverage credibility off his bname. Odd one.
And smokes spliffs all day but so what. One punch is all Tyson needs, but he's probably been told try not to kill him.

Taylor

I would not pay any heed to the Fury v Nganu fight - it was clear as day that Fury hadnt prepared for it at all.

He would still beat AJ - this new beginning is a false dawn in my opinion - until he fights a high quality HW the questions will remain.

I cant see Usyk v Fury going ahead - there will be some bullshit between now and then.


lurganblue

The Fury and AJ heavy weight boxing merry-go-round will be underway for the next 2 years and nothing will happen.

bannside

#7797
The wee Tyrone Tornado has just qualified for Paris Olympics in ultra competitive 57kg weight division. Flawless display from Jude Gallagher, Four wins out of four over the week..
See you in Paris Jude.

nrico2006

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 11, 2024, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 11, 2024, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 11, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:24 PMBoxers usually deteriorate physically but the weird case with AJ was that he obviously had mental issues which affected his performances post losing to Ruiz. He became more hesitant, committed less offensively etc. and even tried to just outbox Usyk. Based on the last 2 fights under BDs tutelage, it looks like he has overcome those issues now and looks like the old front foot fighter he was. That fighter could beat Usyk, or Fury.

Beating Ngannu, who isnt a boxer, and Wallin doesnt mean he could beat Usyk or Fury

Usyk, Joshua and then Fury in that order. Fury's boxing CV took some battering in Saudi on the 23rd Dec.
Really?

Course it did.  It was as embarrassing a night as a boxer has ever had.  The worry is that Fury still hasn't backed down from his view that he did train hard for Ngannou.  But the view from former professionals is that no matter if you feel you trained hard, if you don't have that fear factor you are not properly prepared.  It could be the best thing to happen to Fury and I would expect him to be back to his best for Usyk, who again showed an obvious weakness in his last fight.  Top 3 right now is Fury, Usyk and Joshua.   

I'm no Joshua fan boy but he has shown strong evidence that he is back to his best.  He hasn't been taken into dark waters in the last few fights, but the thing is, when Joshua is in this kind of form which is reminiscent to how he was performing before Ruiz, he overwhelmed opponents with his power and speed and essentially made for one way traffic.

'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'