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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 06, 2021, 12:48:16 PM »
Ah sure here I can't understand why clubs can gets refs out

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 05, 2021, 11:18:59 AM »
whatwillbwillb, only one one to solve this from your point of view, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem:

https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/are-you-interested-in-becoming-an-antrim-gaa-referee

Looking forward to seeing you start the revolution and make the county better through your contributions as a ref, oh and get new car shopping I am sure a new Land Rover won't be out of reach with all those expenses you'll be coining in

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 04, 2021, 03:10:58 PM »
The thing I have always struggled with is the notion of a 'soft free', if a player is fouled by say a tug of the jersey and slowed down should this not be a free or is the ref being too picky? Does a man have to be half maimed for a free? As MR2 said al too often a ref is perceived to have caused an injury due to not being in control, therefore where is the line drawn?

@Dunsilly King, it is interesting that you have chose two SW referees for your example of evil v good, have they wronged you or your club or something?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 04, 2021, 02:35:21 PM »
The problem may lie with the assessors, I have seen two assessment reports for two different games from Ulster for one of our inter county refs, one was saying that he was letting too much go and to blow everything early and the latter was saying the tackle must be allowed to develop more............seems a no win situation

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 04, 2021, 12:52:46 PM »
Very defensive of refs on this forum. I mentioned a couple of years back something i wasnt happy about a ref doing and got completely lambasted on here for it. whilst they should be owed the most credit for their participation in our games they shouldnt be exempt from any scrutiny. Players, managers and comittees get all forms of criticism on here and opinions are shared across the board, but this notion that you cant say anything to or about a ref has to stop. reminds me of the priests in the 70s where you darent of said a word about them....

Not my intention Rodger, my point was that there are comments and prejudices being made in respect of fitness etc, when it comes to the business end of the season it was always be a ref capable of staying with play who is appointed to the games, for the leagues etc and down the ages unfortunately I think it is a case of make the best of what we have.

When it comes to making comments on referees performances I also have no problem with these as long as they are fair and balanced, people will forget three 'easy' frees their free taker may have missed but remember the 'soft' free a ref gave to defeat them by a point, criticism is as valuable as praise as long as it is handed out in a fair, consistent and balanced manner

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 04, 2021, 09:36:07 AM »
Ok, point taken, however there will be a lot of refs who will have been looking after themselves also

As you said cut MR2 a bit of slack, I have heard whilst he may not be blowing out of his a** he certainly talks out of it  ;) ;)

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 04, 2021, 08:54:39 AM »
Indeed there would not be, therefore being a constant detractor and jumping on any criticism possible is hardly the way to retain and recruit more refs

You do make a good point however, players can be subbed and often are especially as games enter extra time in championship games, why don't we give a bit of credit to those refs still up with the game at those stages

Just said we would have no sporT without them ?


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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 03, 2021, 10:20:14 PM »
Lads be grateful for the refs we have (MR2 included) for them over the next 10 weeks they will be asked to do maybe 3-5 games a week over all codes and ages, they will give up family time, work time and self time, for what? Men to sit here and take cheap shots at fitness etc. Belfast GAA man put your money where your mouth is and take up the whistle.

And yes:

1. Last year I did speak out of turn when Totes got the final but I took that back: and
2. I am an ex ref so my money has been where my mouth is

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 02, 2021, 10:27:19 PM »
On that point MR2 and the rest of ye, do you not find it a bit farcical we cannot have a few men standing watching over the wire even though the shops and pubs can have people outside

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 30, 2021, 09:35:00 AM »
To say that Cargin will drop off due to not having the conveyer belt coming through is a strange thought process considering they have won x2  minor championships in a row and were not remotely challenged last  year until the final. They are starting to blood these young minor players already and is likely we will see a passing of the guard in terms of 1-15 in jerseys, however old timers like the McCanns, Crozier, Scullion etc will be on the bench to give guidance and that 10 mins of experience when needed in big games

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 28, 2021, 11:25:34 AM »
Can't see Nugent having the fitness level for County football, he looks laboured on the hurling pitch but his size enables him to hold men off at the level he was playing last year, will be interesting to see how that works for him with the step up this year

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 27, 2021, 02:40:04 PM »
Lad's does anyone know when Antrim CCC are publishing the fixtures for the upcoming season?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 26, 2021, 11:22:35 AM »
Hi Roger good to see you back:

SFC- Cargin again hard to look past, however this could the year PG1 steps up perhaps? On a side not is/was Tony Scullion injured last season was suprised not to see him out for more games with Cargin?

IFC- This is the real tough one to call and I will go with an outsider in Glenravel

JFC- Rasharkin 

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 23, 2021, 01:43:39 PM »
So it seems competitive games can resume on May 7th, do we know if Antrim plans to kick things off for this date?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: March 22, 2021, 04:57:37 PM »
Interesting to see this with England, will the North be allowed to restart given the relevant laws in our local jurisdiction

https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/316129

And, yes I know that it is the England GAA council which made the ruling and they are a different country, but believe me as someone who had a lot of dealing with Croke Park while playing in England Croke Park keep a tight rein on them

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