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half the team wear their own jersey because they cant get into last seasons senior tight fit jerseys.
Remember this in a reserve hurling game, one of the lads was wearing his own top no number on it. he was having a decent game scored 1-4 or so and he said something to his man who replied with 'at least i can get into my top and dont have to wear a 3 man tent' found it funny as our lad had no reply and just walked away head down, good times lol

Div 1 & 2 to start in April.

Would have preferred an earlier start (and therefore finish) to the season myself.

lkewise, an earlier start would have been great and would have helped the dual clubs who have a big overlap. Ah well.

yeah i thought that was the way its to pan out. 11 games then a split with a further 5 games  to sort it out.

More or less the same format as last season that was done in Div 3 where we played a few at home and a few away to decide what happened.

It worked well from what i seen.

I am not so sure about the split on the basis of last years Div 3 - from what I could gather some teams ended up with more home games than others and fairly lop sided in some instances.  I think it was a case that if you already played a team away for example you then got them at home after the split.  Problem being that you could have ended up with as many as 5 games at home after the split while some of your rivals could have had as little as two and over the course of the season in this could have seen some teams with maybe as few as 8 home games compared to others having 12 or 13.  Not good for gate receipts even allowing for television income and as for a level playing field.....

That was the way it worked out. We had already played Glenravel away in the league some when the split came we had to play them at home, which worked out as the decider for us to go up.

It works the same way in the hurling as well with the split. If you play them at home before the split i.e Cdall then if your still in the top 6 you play them away.

I suppose its about trying to balance it out fairly for each club.

Or what you could do is appeal it at the end of the season and waste everyones time in having a relegation/promotion scrap!

Which is more important, playing your rivals both home and away or having a fair split of home games? i think the case of playing your rivals home and away is far better and the fairest way of a split. only thing could be possibly in year 2 the pre split fixtures are reversed, i.e. if St Johns played Cargin at home pre split in 2016 then it gets reversed the following season with new clubs taking over from relegated clubs so when doing fixtures 1st in div 2 takes bottom in div 1 place in the following years fixture calculation if that makes sense.

How was the ex boyfriend not a lead suspect??? the day the car was found on the yard, who were the only search crew given a camera by the ex bf leading the search? Yip the ones who found the car which was so badly hidden it was unreal. as stated in the documentary surely Avery who had a crusher on site would have disposed of the car and all evidence inside it? Also the ex BF was able to get her voicemails one day online by guessing her password??? Also Halbach had been getting pestering phonecalls for weeks leading up to the murder and by her colleagues admission 'from a number she seemed to recognise' SURELY the ex bf should have been no1 suspect.

This. Coupled with Officer Coburn's (who was a very naughty boy not filing a report in the mid-90s that might have got Avery released years earlier on the rape case) dispatch check of Halbach's car's reg days before the car was found makes it seem an awful lot like the cops found the car and then moved it onto the Avery lot themselves. Whether they believed Avery to be guilty or they wanted to ruin his civil case that was likely going to bankrupt the county it smacks of incredible malpractice.

During the time of the disappearance didn't Avery and the brother say that one night they saw lights and two trucks at the far end of their yard?

Yeah, from the top of my head i think it was after the murder but before the car was discovered, said they seen lights on one of the old less frequently used roads into the site

How was the ex boyfriend not a lead suspect??? the day the car was found on the yard, who were the only search crew given a camera by the ex bf leading the search? Yip the ones who found the car which was so badly hidden it was unreal. as stated in the documentary surely Avery who had a crusher on site would have disposed of the car and all evidence inside it? Also the ex BF was able to get her voicemails one day online by guessing her password??? Also Halbach had been getting pestering phonecalls for weeks leading up to the murder and by her colleagues admission 'from a number she seemed to recognise' SURELY the ex bf should have been no1 suspect.

I agree with Gizzy on this.

The proposal is as follows.

A. Do we play off a normal 12 team division one league with 22 matches....or B. Do we split the league at half way point and top six go into their own league (mostly chasing div 1 title) with the bottom six (trying to avoid relegation).

The thought process behind the split into two leagues is clever enough imo. All games then  become meaningful (very few dead rubbers) and there is a prize for top six finish, ie, seeded in the following years championship.

Makes sense to me. A has 22 games, and B has 21 games. I'd go for a league final too between top two on points.

I know that our footballers are against a 22 game season for the league in Div 2. They are prefering the 11 games and then the split to sort it out. 22 games is alot of games to be playing and if im honest they will be playing games in Dec at that rate!

I think the split is the only viable option, but Bannside I think with the split its 16 games not 21 unless you are talking about home and away after the split?? I think just a one way split would be better. if there was a need for a few extra games then 3rd play 6th and 4th play 5th in league q/f winners play 1st and 2nd in League semi final and obv then a final. do the same for bottom half (1b) min games 17, max games 19.

Yeah i counted 16, 11 pre split then 5 after. if you played the team at home before the split then you're away after the split, just means some teams could in theory have 1 home game after the split but again thats just luck of the draw, you will still play your rivals home and away.

Just started into Luther over the Christmas break and finished up first season last night, should have watched it sooner, great stuff.

Making a Murderer is very good too, 7episodes or so in now just but as everyone says, spoilers everywhere

Managed to do OK with Making a Murderer so far with missing spoilers I'm hoping to start it tonight. Is it one the Mrs would watch does anyone think? I'd be happy enough if it wasn't as she doesn't have the same commitment as me when getting stuck into a new series. I can't be dealing with this watching 1 episode a night nonsense!!!

If she doesn't enjoy binge watching then it wont be for her and you're best riding solo on this one trust me. Equally if she's like my mrs and wants to talk through everything, pause things while she gets tea/ goes to the toilet etc def do NOT watch Making a Morderer with her or quite frankly another murderer will be made. lol

Documentary .. Making a murderer on Netflix .. It's 10 episodes but v good

Good call leenie, started it over weekend and it's very good.

Watching this as well but there are spoilers everywhere.

Holy smokes is all i can say, unbelievable. literally the only thing that got me over the christmas boredom.

At least we have the first step of getting our best players out. It was worrying how much we were *apparently* cleaned out at midfield though yesterday as I'm not sure that would be Derry's first choice midfield.

I don't know how much to read into it at this time of year. Derry regularly have our number. I guess we'll know better after the carlow game.

Niall McKeever going to be available for NFL? that would prob sort our problem out at midfield i would think.

Anyone seen the Hateful 8 yet??

I was very disappointed with it!!

Why would you be disapointed his other recent efforts have been muck, Django was awfull and inglorious basterds had an amazing opening scene followed by 2 and half hours of utter nonsense but still every reviewer gives his films 9/10 just because its Tarantino.

i didn't think it was out for a week or so yet? any adverts i have seen said 8th Jan, bit meh about it now looking at your feedback lads, i was looking forward to it though. Disagree about Django, i really enjoyed it but yeah inglorious bastards was pretty poor by QT standards.

Just finished Better call Saul. Absolutely excellent. 


Sick to death of avoiding  "Celebrity"Family Fortunes  (including domestic version)  etc this Christmas.  Remote control overheating.

I loved better call Saul, done enough to steer away from Breaking Bad and create its own story, some really good characters and hope there is a season 2.

I think it's a good idea.

Ballsy

Give it a go...whatever happens we'll all survive

exactly, something needed done, see how it goes its better than leaving it as is.

People seem to forget the brilliant weather we have here. There will be umpteen games not played due to pitches being in no fit shape in many cases.

Our main pitch wont be open till April at the earliest meaning all games are on the second pitch. With it being used for training as well it wont be long before its tore into rubbish.

I hope not but with our great irish weather it will be mostly likely soaking for the month of Feb

but surely the weather is as bad in the winter months when we are completing games? i suppose the difference is the pitch is getting a bit of rest after oct etc where as from feb it isn't. DR i thought your club would be one of the ones happy with the leagues starting early and more gaps between hurling and football fixtures, especially with your football looking to be on the rise, might give lads a bit more breathing space to be dual players.

U might c his brother later when u r down the casement social club, as far as I know he still works behind the bar!

The men that r in the positions on the county will hopefully do the right thing after consulting with all relevant and realise that maybe there doesn't need a lot of knee jerk reactions. As I said before a tweak here or there will do the same job!

Yes, because that has worked so well recently..... Yeah 7th feb might be a bit early but would be pretty sure it'll be better than what we have now.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction to having 4 extra games. Chances are there will actually be 2 less league games this year. It is more a reaction to requests from dual clubs to help with their busy fixture schedule IMO.

+1 one of the main issues being for example a football league fixture the wed before a hurling championship game etc, clubs need more breathing space. This gives it