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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #390 on: May 25, 2021, 09:52:53 AM »
stops a manager stopping the game 7 times, and two teams would be 14 stoppages

30 seconds per sub. That's 7 mins
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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #391 on: May 25, 2021, 10:06:56 AM »
stops a manager stopping the game 7 times, and two teams would be 14 stoppages

30 seconds per sub. That's 7 mins


Basically the length of time every Donegal match stops for while McHugh is rolling around the ground as per usual. How no refs have picked up on this is mind-boggling.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #392 on: May 25, 2021, 03:45:44 PM »
Should be more than 500 but a starting point to allow supporters back to games.

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The GAA can confirm that from this weekend 500 spectators will be permitted to attend Allianz League games in the Six Counties.

With cross border travel for non-essential reasons discouraged and following discussions with Ulster GAA, the following breakdown has been agreed.

50 complimentary tickets to travelling county from outside the north (non-playing players and county officials) No sale for spectators.
50 complimentary tickets to home county (non-playing players and county officials).
400 tickets to each host county - to sell locally only.
Tickets will be sold via county boards locally with the following pricing:

£15 Division 1 and 2 Football & Division 1 Hurling and £10 Division 3 and 4 Football and Division 2 and 3 Hurling. There will be no concession tickets due to limited numbers.

These arrangements will be reviewed at the conclusion of the Allianz Leagues in line with public health advice at that time

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #393 on: May 25, 2021, 07:15:42 PM »
stops a manager stopping the game 7 times, and two teams would be 14 stoppages

30 seconds per sub. That's 7 mins

Officially refs are supposed to only add 20 seconds on for every sub.

I would say that the number of matches where the entire sub process took only 20 seconds would be very small.

Does anyone else think it would be an improvement if the number of sub windows was reduced ?
Teams could have 3 sub windows per game [assuming 5 subs] but subs made at half-time [or at a water-break while they are around] don't count towards the use of a sub window.

I'd also like some sort of move where only injury subs are allowed in the last 10 minutes of normal time and injury time.

I think the momentum and flow of games is very disrupted by these late on subs, when the game is almost over.

These late subs are used by teams who are ahead to slow things down, take energy/spark/momentum out of the game.

Also in terms of players, I think being brought on late on/in injury time when you'd a very high odds of not even getting a touch is almost worse than not being brought on at all.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #394 on: May 25, 2021, 07:56:36 PM »
Permutations for Division 1 North

Saturday May 29

Armagh v Donegal, Athletic Grounds, 7:30pm - eir Sport

Tyrone v Monaghan, Healy Park, 7.30pm - GAAGO

Itís all still to play for in Division 1 North will Donegal, Tyrone, Armagh, and Monaghan all still having a mathematical chance of finishing in the top two places and qualifying for the semi-finals.

Donegal are currently in pole position and need just to draw with Armagh on Saturday to make the semi-finals. Armagh will definitely secure their place in the semi-finals with a win but could also squeeze through with a draw as long as Monaghan beat Tyrone.

Tyrone are guaranteed semi-final qualification if they defeat Monaghan. A victory for Monaghan could also see them qualify for the semi-finals, but only if Donegal beat Armagh.

If Monaghan win and Armagh draw with Donegal, then Monaghan and Armagh would finish on three points each but Armagh would finish above Monaghan due to the head to head rule.

If both matches finish in a draw then Donegal and Tyrone will advance to the semi-finals.

Permutations for Division 1 South

Sunday May 30

Galway v Dublin, St Jarlath's Park, 3:45pm - TG4

Roscommon v Kerry, Dr Hyde Park, 3.45pm - TG4 Player

Kerry and Dublin are currently in the top two positions in Division 1 South with three points from two matches, with Kerry already guaranteed a place in the semi-finals thanks to their superior scoring difference.

Dublin can also qualify for the Division 1 semi-finals if they defeat or draw with Galway this weekend. If Galway win that match, then they and Kerry will advance to the semi-finals.

Roscommon are destined to finish fourth even if they beat Kerry because theyíll lose out to Galway on the head to head rule if both teams finish on two points each.
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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #395 on: May 25, 2021, 08:30:40 PM »
stops a manager stopping the game 7 times, and two teams would be 14 stoppages

30 seconds per sub. That's 7 mins

Officially refs are supposed to only add 20 seconds on for every sub.

I would say that the number of matches where the entire sub process took only 20 seconds would be very small.

Does anyone else think it would be an improvement if the number of sub windows was reduced ?
Teams could have 3 sub windows per game [assuming 5 subs] but subs made at half-time [or at a water-break while they are around] don't count towards the use of a sub window.

I'd also like some sort of move where only injury subs are allowed in the last 10 minutes of normal time and injury time.

I think the momentum and flow of games is very disrupted by these late on subs, when the game is almost over.

These late subs are used by teams who are ahead to slow things down, take energy/spark/momentum out of the game.

Also in terms of players, I think being brought on late on/in injury time when you'd a very high odds of not even getting a touch is almost worse than not being brought on at all.

Injury subs only at that point will encourage lads to drop and let on they have an injury!

The last 15 minute break the ref should just stop his watch for every second the ball is not in play bar wides, goal kicks and frees. The likes of real  injuries or medical treatments the watch stops,  raise his hand stops his watch, like rugby, eventually lying down wonít make much difference, momentum is one factor too though, running down the clock should only happen with the ball in play.

Iíd a team trying it on, 3 points up lad goes down with cramp, I said play on, the manager was shouting take your helmet off, I stopped the watch, which added on 3 more minutes, the other team scored two goals in final minutes to win the game by a point.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #396 on: May 25, 2021, 10:58:45 PM »
stops a manager stopping the game 7 times, and two teams would be 14 stoppages

30 seconds per sub. That's 7 mins


Basically the length of time every Donegal match stops for while McHugh is rolling around the ground as per usual. How no refs have picked up on this is mind-boggling.

Must have Tyrone blood in him

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #397 on: May 25, 2021, 11:32:42 PM »
The timing issue is very easily resolved by way of a stop clock similar to rugby and ladies football. How it hasnít been introduced at this stage is baffling.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #398 on: May 26, 2021, 12:06:05 AM »
In general time keeping has vastly improved these past few years. In the bad old days  2 mins and 3 mins added time  were common and most of that added time could be take up with cynical play, the winning team's  players queueing up to inflict the yellow card tackle or a stubborn rule book ref running 100m to consult with an umpire over whether to caution a handbags indiscretion.

I'm looking forward to Tyrone v Monaghan, both teams should have their peckers up, though playing Tyrone  these days is a rather tame affair since Tyrone lost their mojo. It's not such a big deal to beat them as it once was.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #399 on: May 26, 2021, 11:54:34 AM »
The timing issue is very easily resolved by way of a stop clock similar to rugby and ladies football. How it hasnít been introduced at this stage is baffling.
Didn't Congress approve a hooter system some years ago?
As I recall the GAA said that it was too complicated to introduce so it was shelved.
Cynics felt it was because the Refs couldn't play for draws  ::)
Now that we're having extra time and shoot outs I think it could be re examined.
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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #400 on: May 26, 2021, 12:20:12 PM »
The timing issue is very easily resolved by way of a stop clock similar to rugby and ladies football. How it hasnít been introduced at this stage is baffling.
Didn't Congress approve a hooter system some years ago?
As I recall the GAA said that it was too complicated to introduce so it was shelved.
Cynics felt it was because the Refs couldn't play for draws  ::)
Now that we're having extra time and shoot outs I think it could be re examined.

Perhaps they do not admire the Ladies' hooters.
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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #401 on: May 26, 2021, 01:37:24 PM »
I dont believe its fair that fans are allowed in on Saturday.We are a 32 county organization and it should be all in or nobody.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #402 on: May 26, 2021, 02:54:38 PM »
I dont believe its fair that fans are allowed in on Saturday.We are a 32 county organization and it should be all in or nobody.

Like it or lump it, it's a 32 county organisation in two separate political jurisdictions.

It's a political issue in a sporting context.

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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #403 on: May 26, 2021, 05:37:20 PM »
I dont believe its fair that fans are allowed in on Saturday.We are a 32 county organization and it should be all in or nobody.

Like it or lump it, it's a 32 county organisation in two separate political jurisdictions.

It's a political issue in a sporting context.

Did the south not start before the north last time?
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Re: Division one 2021
« Reply #404 on: May 26, 2021, 06:00:50 PM »
I dont believe its fair that fans are allowed in on Saturday.We are a 32 county organization and it should be all in or nobody.

Like it or lump it, it's a 32 county organisation in two separate political jurisdictions.

It's a political issue in a sporting context.

Did the south not start before the north last time?

Different this time. The six counties are about 3 week ahead on the vaccine roll out.
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