Division one 2021

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macker15

Quote from: From the Bunker on June 04, 2021, 04:25:20 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.

Galway and Roscommon don't exist just to improve Mayo's AI chances. They'll be hoping to nab the Nestor Cup themselves and I would not bet against either claiming a Connacht Title.

Yerra galway and the rossies years behind Mayo in strength and conditioning and dont forget Mayo in transition too. Mayo and Roscommon was men against boys last year.

Cunny Funt

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Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Ahh no we’re not actually.
We’ve done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.
A little harsh on your own side although I'm not totally convinced by Joyce as manager. It's achievement in itself how long Monaghan have managed to stay in Div 1.

The two relegation play offs should be keenly contested with both games likely decided by who has the best impact off the bench.

Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 06:52:22 PM
[Yerra galway and the rossies years behind Mayo in strength and conditioning and dont forget Mayo in transition too. Mayo and Roscommon was men against boys last year.

Last November was Mayos first Connacht title and final for 5 years and won it by a mere one point. Makes one wonder where Mayo would be in the provincial shake up if it wasn't for this strength and conditioning advantage.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.
Ahh no we're not actually.
We've done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.

Galway going nowhere, just hope the likes of Paul Kelly Tierney & Glynn continue to start whilst Culhane & Sweeney get some minutes too. Need the likes of Cooke & Finnerty to step up and be consistent but not overly optimistic on Finnerty. The likes of Brannigan & Heaney have followed Ian Burke by offering nothing and there's no kickout strategy at either end.

Galway won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 & 13 and were runners up in 2017. Galway haven't got nowhere near enough top players from those sides, probably 3 players good enough to win All Stars in Walsh, Comer & Sean Kelly. Just hope they get more out of last years winners as don't think there'll be much more coming out of the 2019 provincial winners.

An Fhairche Abu

Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.
Ahh no we're not actually.
We've done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.

Galway going nowhere, just hope the likes of Paul Kelly Tierney & Glynn continue to start whilst Culhane & Sweeney get some minutes too. Need the likes of Cooke & Finnerty to step up and be consistent but not overly optimistic on Finnerty. The likes of Brannigan & Heaney have followed Ian Burke by offering nothing and there's no kickout strategy at either end.

Galway won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 & 13 and were runners up in 2017. Galway haven't got nowhere near enough top players from those sides, probably 3 players good enough to win All Stars in Walsh, Comer & Sean Kelly. Just hope they get more out of last years winners as don't think there'll be much more coming out of the 2019 provincial winners.
Galway need a "Blue Wave" style review and plan that would overhaul of the entire football structures that are in place, we won't put the Senior IC team in the best place to succeed over the long term until this is done.
It won't happen.

Main Street

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 04, 2021, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 04, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
Armagh vs Ros is a huge game. Big for both teams but absolutely huge for us. It's been a long road back to here.

We know that Dublin and Kerry are way ahead of us. Depressingly it is difficult to conceive of how those respective gaps could be closed.

We have to admit that Donegal, Tyrone and Mayo are ahead of us. Not by as much but definitively ahead. Bottom 3 in Division 1 looks like a ceiling for us in the near term. On that basis you will suffer relegation at some point. Roscommon are in that yo-yo territory already. Relegation is not a disaster but it makes everything this group of players is trying to achieve that bit more difficult



A case to be made that Division 1 should become a 10 team group.

As Mayo found out last year the trap door is too easy to fall through in the current format and the likes of Armagh, Roscommon, Meath need consecutive years in Div 1 to develop.

Or keep the 8 team format and just have one relegation spot.

smelmoth

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 04, 2021, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 04, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
Armagh vs Ros is a huge game. Big for both teams but absolutely huge for us. It's been a long road back to here.

We know that Dublin and Kerry are way ahead of us. Depressingly it is difficult to conceive of how those respective gaps could be closed.

We have to admit that Donegal, Tyrone and Mayo are ahead of us. Not by as much but definitively ahead. Bottom 3 in Division 1 looks like a ceiling for us in the near term. On that basis you will suffer relegation at some point. Roscommon are in that yo-yo territory already. Relegation is not a disaster but it makes everything this group of players is trying to achieve that bit more difficult

A case to be made that Division 1 should become a 10 team group.

As Mayo found out last year the trap door is too easy to fall through in the current format and the likes of Armagh, Roscommon, Meath need consecutive years in Div 1 to develop.

No matter where you make the cut there will always be winners and losers. Can't see any reason for interfering with 4 tiers of 8

Rossfan

4 eights with 2 up 2 down is the best in my opinion.
Next year the League may also determine qualification for the AI Championship depending on the Autumn special Congress (and Covid !!)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

From the Bunker

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 04, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.
Ahh no we're not actually.
We've done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.

Galway going nowhere, just hope the likes of Paul Kelly Tierney & Glynn continue to start whilst Culhane & Sweeney get some minutes too. Need the likes of Cooke & Finnerty to step up and be consistent but not overly optimistic on Finnerty. The likes of Brannigan & Heaney have followed Ian Burke by offering nothing and there's no kickout strategy at either end.

Galway won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 & 13 and were runners up in 2017. Galway haven't got nowhere near enough top players from those sides, probably 3 players good enough to win All Stars in Walsh, Comer & Sean Kelly. Just hope they get more out of last years winners as don't think there'll be much more coming out of the 2019 provincial winners.
Galway need a "Blue Wave" style review and plan that would overhaul of the entire football structures that are in place, we won't put the Senior IC team in the best place to succeed over the long term until this is done.
It won't happen.

You are right it won't happen. Why? Because Galway footballers are worth feck-all to the GAA Coffers.

UpMeeyo

Quote from: smelmoth on June 04, 2021, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 04, 2021, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 04, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
Armagh vs Ros is a huge game. Big for both teams but absolutely huge for us. It's been a long road back to here.

We know that Dublin and Kerry are way ahead of us. Depressingly it is difficult to conceive of how those respective gaps could be closed.

We have to admit that Donegal, Tyrone and Mayo are ahead of us. Not by as much but definitively ahead. Bottom 3 in Division 1 looks like a ceiling for us in the near term. On that basis you will suffer relegation at some point. Roscommon are in that yo-yo territory already. Relegation is not a disaster but it makes everything this group of players is trying to achieve that bit more difficult

A case to be made that Division 1 should become a 10 team group.

As Mayo found out last year the trap door is too easy to fall through in the current format and the likes of Armagh, Roscommon, Meath need consecutive years in Div 1 to develop.

No matter where you make the cut there will always be winners and losers. Can't see any reason for interfering with 4 tiers of 8

Personally I think if league has an influence on championship it should be division 1a/1b for top 16 and D 2a/2b for the next 16 to allow the chance for the bottom 16 to play for the Sam in any 2 year period.

It would be better for the game in that current D2 teams would have better exposure to the top tier teams and allow the Roscommons/armaghs/meaths to develop without the constant threat/pressure of relegation/promotion.

On top of that it would allow teams to not always have to play close to their best 15s every week, giving us a chance to see other players play.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: From the Bunker on June 06, 2021, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 04, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.
Ahh no we're not actually.
We've done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.

Galway going nowhere, just hope the likes of Paul Kelly Tierney & Glynn continue to start whilst Culhane & Sweeney get some minutes too. Need the likes of Cooke & Finnerty to step up and be consistent but not overly optimistic on Finnerty. The likes of Brannigan & Heaney have followed Ian Burke by offering nothing and there's no kickout strategy at either end.

Galway won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 & 13 and were runners up in 2017. Galway haven't got nowhere near enough top players from those sides, probably 3 players good enough to win All Stars in Walsh, Comer & Sean Kelly. Just hope they get more out of last years winners as don't think there'll be much more coming out of the 2019 provincial winners.
Galway need a "Blue Wave" style review and plan that would overhaul of the entire football structures that are in place, we won't put the Senior IC team in the best place to succeed over the long term until this is done.
It won't happen.

You are right it won't happen. Why? Because Galway footballers are worth feck-all to the GAA Coffers.

Why do you think that Bunker? I mean as seafoid keeps his 'thuas seal agus thíos seal' argument going and I dislike it, but the fact is that Galway are the only county to bring Sam west in 70 years. If Galway did get their act together then surely they would have more fans etc.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

galwayman

Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2021, 08:44:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 06, 2021, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 04, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.
Ahh no we're not actually.
We've done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.

Galway going nowhere, just hope the likes of Paul Kelly Tierney & Glynn continue to start whilst Culhane & Sweeney get some minutes too. Need the likes of Cooke & Finnerty to step up and be consistent but not overly optimistic on Finnerty. The likes of Brannigan & Heaney have followed Ian Burke by offering nothing and there's no kickout strategy at either end.

Galway won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 & 13 and were runners up in 2017. Galway haven't got nowhere near enough top players from those sides, probably 3 players good enough to win All Stars in Walsh, Comer & Sean Kelly. Just hope they get more out of last years winners as don't think there'll be much more coming out of the 2019 provincial winners.
Galway need a "Blue Wave" style review and plan that would overhaul of the entire football structures that are in place, we won't put the Senior IC team in the best place to succeed over the long term until this is done.
It won't happen.

You are right it won't happen. Why? Because Galway footballers are worth feck-all to the GAA Coffers.

Why do you think that Bunker? I mean as seafoid keeps his 'thuas seal agus thíos seal' argument going and I dislike it, but the fact is that Galway are the only county to bring Sam west in 70 years. If Galway did get their act together then surely they would have more fans etc.
We are the ultimate fair weather supporter county unfortunately.

seafoid

Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2021, 08:44:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 06, 2021, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 04, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 04, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Roscommon and Galway both strong favourites here. Were told here how competitive Connacht is. Time for Galway and the Rossies to shit or get off the pot. Mayo will need a competitive for their All Ireland semifinal.
Ahh no we're not actually.
We've done nothing to warrant being favourites at all in our game not to mind being strong favourites.
It being played in Clones is a plus for Monaghan too.
Pp have both teams at evens.
I expect Monaghan to beat us - we are very very average.

Galway going nowhere, just hope the likes of Paul Kelly Tierney & Glynn continue to start whilst Culhane & Sweeney get some minutes too. Need the likes of Cooke & Finnerty to step up and be consistent but not overly optimistic on Finnerty. The likes of Brannigan & Heaney have followed Ian Burke by offering nothing and there's no kickout strategy at either end.

Galway won U21 All Ireland's in 2011 & 13 and were runners up in 2017. Galway haven't got nowhere near enough top players from those sides, probably 3 players good enough to win All Stars in Walsh, Comer & Sean Kelly. Just hope they get more out of last years winners as don't think there'll be much more coming out of the 2019 provincial winners.
Galway need a "Blue Wave" style review and plan that would overhaul of the entire football structures that are in place, we won't put the Senior IC team in the best place to succeed over the long term until this is done.
It won't happen.

You are right it won't happen. Why? Because Galway footballers are worth feck-all to the GAA Coffers.

Why do you think that Bunker? I mean as seafoid keeps his 'thuas seal agus thíos seal' argument going and I dislike it, but the fact is that Galway are the only county to bring Sam west in 70 years. If Galway did get their act together then surely they would have more fans etc.
Not now.

https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/all-ireland-senior-football-championship/winner
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

London not participating 1,000 to 1.
Leitrim and Sligo 2,000 to 1
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Meath 100/1 is the standout price.
Shows how the Dublin project has destroyed Leinster
football.
Meath used to be a marquee side.

Seal dá raibheas im maighdean shéimh
Is anois im bhaintreach caite ar stré

https://youtu.be/5Ojy1W6r8L0
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Armagh18

Quote from: seafoid on June 06, 2021, 12:25:41 PM
Meath 100/1 is the standout price.
Shows how the Dublin project has destroyed Leinster
football.
Meath used to be a marquee side.

Seal dá raibheas im maighdean shéimh
Is anois im bhaintreach caite ar stré

https://youtu.be/5Ojy1W6r8L0
I'll give you them at 100/1 for Leinster!