Hunger strike commemoration at a GAA ground

[Maguire01]

I'd like to straighten out few points re: this argument.
firstly, the community hall in Galbally where the event took place, is exactly that, a community hall.
It is NOT clubrooms belonging to the gaa.
AFAIK galbally pay rent to the community centre to use the changing facilities for their football club as it is right beside the football pitch.
it wasnt a decision for the gaa or galbally football club to make, as whether to allow the event to be partially staged there.(although i would imagine no-one in the club would have had a problem with it)

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Sorry. There's some real pro IRA shite talk on this thread, but your effort wins the prize. Quality post!

If it isn't the Stooper-in-chief himself.

Go and swap notes with your buddy Mc Causland, whose problem lies in the fact that his loyalist scum buddies could only refrain from food for about 9 days, before it dawned on them that they hadn't the energy to pull themselves off over their 'library' of porn mags. You could advise there.

There's no need to get ignorant about it. Surely it's acceptable to discuss something relevant to the GAA on a GAA discussion board?


It's a shame that some people here - many of whom would call themselves Irish Republicans - feel that to be Irish or to be a GAA man you have to share one political opinion or share the same outlook on such matters, and dismiss any alternative view.

In your alacrity to have a bash, you posted it on the wrong board. This is about politics not sport, at least try to post in the right place.

[pintsofguinness]

I'd like to straighten out few points re: this argument.
firstly, the community hall in Galbally where the event took place, is exactly that, a community hall.
It is NOT clubrooms belonging to the gaa.
AFAIK galbally pay rent to the community centre to use the changing facilities for their football club as it is right beside the football pitch.
it wasnt a decision for the gaa or galbally football club to make, as whether to allow the event to be partially staged there.(although i would imagine no-one in the club would have had a problem with it)

*shakes head*

Why can't we leave the politics at the gate?

[Maguire01]

There's no need to get ignorant about it. Surely it's acceptable to discuss something relevant to the GAA on a GAA discussion board?


It's a shame that some people here - many of whom would call themselves Irish Republicans - feel that to be Irish or to be a GAA man you have to share one political opinion or share the same outlook on such matters, and dismiss any alternative view.

In your alacrity to have a bash, you posted it on the wrong board. This is about politics not sport, at least try to post in the right place.

I did consider posting on the General Discussion board. But I thought that, being a GAA related matter, it was appropriate for discussion on the GAA Discussion board.

But feel free to ask the mods to move it over if it's an issue for you.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

But feel free to ask the mods to move it over if it's an issue for you.

OK, I've asked the Mods to move it.

[Myles Na G.]

Maguire I have a question for you - what exactly did the hunger strikers do that you find so offensive?

I find this interesting everytime I see Irish men falling for stupid DUP tactics.  The hunger strikers killed themselves! Who, apart from themselves and their families did they hurt by taking this extreme action?  I've heard many unionists secretly admitting that they didn't know what to do after the hunger strikes because they couldn't play the victim or the martyr.  A community celebrating this SELF Sacrafice in their local GAA club should not be heckled and demonised by any Irish man or woman.  The hunger strikes should instead be analysed to see their significance, because whether you like it or not Maguire, if it hadn't have been for their actions, republicans would have taken much longer to politicise themselves and who knows how much longer the troubles would have lasted.

Political correctness can sometimes be a dangerous revisionist tactic.  Just because something seems wrong in todays modern peaceful society, does not mean that it can be decontextualised and judged by the same standards, as we all know, you could have been shot dead yourself walking to a GAA ground in the early 80's, maybe then you wouldn't have been so quick to apply your PC outlook to those who fought and died for the right to walk to our grounds in peace.

2nd prize in the 'Complete Provie Bollix' competition. Just as detached from reality as the winner, but lacking the purple prose of the first place entry.

[magickingdom]

7 pages in and no owc comment on this! and i thought they peeked over into the gaa section every now and then.

for what its worth i would have no problem with a hunger strike commeroration (and admire the hunger strikers for their principles) but it should not be held at a gaa ground. no political event whatsoever should be left near the place and that includes ff/fg etc. . it has sweet f all to do with the gaa and should not be there

[Aoise]

Maguire I have a question for you - what exactly did the hunger strikers do that you find so offensive?

I have no problem with the hunger strikers, nor am I offended by them. And I would defend the right of anyone who wants to commemorate them. I just don't think that GAA grounds should be used for such events - there are plenty of alternatives.



But therein lies the problem Maguire!  The GAA is made up of a populace of opinion.  I and many other GAA men and women think that a GAA ground is a good place to hold these events, for a start, in rural communities its quite often the only appropriate venue, or should I say the only possible venue and also, many of these men who died were very active members of the GAA.  Just because you feel it shouldn't be held there does not and should not take precedence over those who do.  Its not a fascist organisation thank god and nor should it be.  A GAA club is for many, not just the local sports ground but usually the centre of that community.  For many, not so long ago, that community was united in support for those men who committed self sacrafice.  Luckily, not everyone has short memories!

Also if you have no problem with the hunger strikers and your not offended by them as you say, then why shouldn't it be held in a GAA club?  Is it not just true to say that as soon as Unionists start attacking the GAA your political correctness overides some sense of logic , because it sounds as though you know deep down that lif we choose to be we can be offended by anything we want!

[pintsofguinness]

But therein lies the problem Maguire!  The GAA is made up of a populace of opinion.  I and many other GAA men and women think that a GAA ground is a good place to hold these events, for a start, in rural communities its quite often the only appropriate venue, or should I say the only possible venue and also, many of these men who died were very active members of the GAA.  Just because you feel it shouldn't be held there does not and should not take precedence over those who do.  Its not a fascist organisation thank god and nor should it be.  A GAA club is for many, not just the local sports ground but usually the centre of that community.  For many, not so long ago, that community was united in support for those men who committed self sacrafice.  Luckily, not everyone has short memories!

Also if you have no problem with the hunger strikers and your not offended by them as you say, then why shouldn't it be held in a GAA club?  Is it not just true to say that as soon as Unionists start attacking the GAA your political correctness overides some sense of logic , because it sounds as though you know deep down that lif we choose to be we can be offended by anything we want!

My question would be why was it held on the football field.  I've seen dozens of these marches in south armagh and I've dont recall any speeches on football fields, the speeches generally take place in the graveyards or on the road, why was it moved to the GAA field in this case?

Why shouldnt it be held be held in a GAA club? because the GAA is a sporting organisation, no political views should have the monopoly in the GAA.  If a club wants to hold something in memory of a deceased member then fair enough but when it comes to having Sinn Fein on a lorry in the football field it becomes political and the GAA should not be involved.

I couldnt give a shite what some bigotted unionist thinks or spouts, I care about the GAA being used by political parties and I care about our own members who don't share our views on the hunger strikers.

[DuffleKing]

what he said

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

But therein lies the problem Maguire!  The GAA is made up of a populace of opinion.  I and many other GAA men and women think that a GAA ground is a good place to hold these events, for a start, in rural communities its quite often the only appropriate venue, or should I say the only possible venue and also, many of these men who died were very active members of the GAA.  Just because you feel it shouldn't be held there does not and should not take precedence over those who do.  Its not a fascist organisation thank god and nor should it be.  A GAA club is for many, not just the local sports ground but usually the centre of that community.  For many, not so long ago, that community was united in support for those men who committed self sacrafice.  Luckily, not everyone has short memories!

Also if you have no problem with the hunger strikers and your not offended by them as you say, then why shouldn't it be held in a GAA club?  Is it not just true to say that as soon as Unionists start attacking the GAA your political correctness overides some sense of logic , because it sounds as though you know deep down that lif we choose to be we can be offended by anything we want!

My question would be why was it held on the football field.  I've seen dozens of these marches in south armagh and I've dont recall any speeches on football fields, the speeches generally take place in the graveyards or on the road, why was it moved to the GAA field in this case?

Why shouldnt it be held be held in a GAA club? because the GAA is a sporting organisation, no political views should have the monopoly in the GAA.  If a club wants to hold something in memory of a deceased member then fair enough but when it comes to having Sinn Fein on a lorry in the football field it becomes political and the GAA should not be involved.

I couldnt give a shite what some bigotted unionist thinks or spouts, I care about the GAA being used by political parties and I care about our own members who don't share our views on the hunger strikers.

Perhaps Galbally Pearses GFC may had something to do with that, or do you think they shouldnt be allowed to
assist in organising such commerations?

[pintsofguinness]

They shouldnt be involved in organising political events, no.

[Gaffer]

What really galls me about this whole thing is that that  McCausland bigot suddenly knows the GAA Rulebook so well he is able to state thet the Galbally episode was contravening Rule 7a. Yet, only a couple of weeks ago , he claimed that he didn't even know that Tyrone were All Ireland Champions.
When he was in Donegal recently and was about to return home , he was asked by the TV reporter would he be taking in the beautiful scenery that he would witness on the route. He couldn t even bring himself to say that Donegal was a nice place to view. He muttered someting about being too busy reading Government papers to have time to look out the window.
The GAA can expect nothing from our Government as long as that arsehole is in it.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

They shouldnt be involved in organising political events, no.

I dont believe it was a political event. It was a commeration to mark the death of one of the Hunger Strikers.

[pintsofguinness]

They shouldnt be involved in organising political events, no.

I dont believe it was a political event. It was a commeration to mark the death of one of the Hunger Strikers.

If a political party thinks centre stage it's a political event.