The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Main Street

Quote from: whitey on November 11, 2022, 03:10:25 PM
The future of the Republican Party should be people like ......
As it stands now, the Republican party is the nationalistic fascist QAnon, infected with a myriad of  conspiracy theories and fanatic religious beliefs,  a party who has as its aim  to drag the USA back into their dogmatic interpretation of what some legislators penned in the 18C.
You think they have a future?

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 12, 2022, 08:52:52 AM
Now that she won, will she still rant its fixed, doesn't take much to be a politician in America, in a way abit like Northern Ireland.

Who do you mean?

whitey

Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2022, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 11, 2022, 03:10:25 PM
The future of the Republican Party should be people like ......
As it stands now, the Republican party is the nationalistic fascist QAnon, infected with a myriad of  conspiracy theories and fanatic religious beliefs,  a party who has as its aim  to drag the USA back into their dogmatic interpretation of what some legislators penned in the 18C.
You think they have a future?

Of course they have a future and a very bright one at that....they just need to get rid of the crazies

Theres some great candidates such as Younkin and Desantis who would give any Democrat a real run for their money in a Presidential match up

If Trump hadnt screwed up the mid terms by promoting a bunch of absolute clowns the red wave would have been very very real

Eamonnca1

That's it! Democratic Senate!

So much for the "red wave!"

bennydorano

Will Biden really run again?? He certainly looks physically & mentally very frail at times, if not, I'm assuming Harris wouldn't be the anointed one to run? Would it be an open field? Biden might beat Trump again but not De Santis imo.

Wildweasel74

#23720
Biden in my opinion to old to run, same as Trump, not oldism but persons of retirement age should not be running for the presidency. It never happens in the UK or, Ireland. Though we had old foggy Paisley for awhile up North. Harris you never see her, invisible tv/news wise anyway when compared to Mike Spence previous. Couldn't see her win a term in office to be honest but Biden in my opinion to old to go another term.

seafoid

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 13, 2022, 05:59:04 AM
That's it! Democratic Senate!

So much for the "red wave!"
Except for Manchin

Jell 0 Biafra

Won't need him if they win the run-off in Georgia.

RedHand88

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 13, 2022, 05:59:04 AM
That's it! Democratic Senate!

So much for the "red wave!"

Without being too clued up on thr intricacies of the 2 houses, is there any merit to having one without the other? My understanding was you needed both to pass legislation?

Jell 0 Biafra

2 main ones that I know of:

Senate has a role in appointing SC judges if any vacancies arise.

Various budget committees operate only in the Senate.

dec

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 13, 2022, 10:04:11 PM
Senate has a role in appointing SC judges if any vacancies arise.

Not just Supreme court, there are actually appeal courts and district courts below that and the judges for that are also appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. McConnell has shown that he is willing to deny Democratic appointed judges a hearing if he gets the chance.

whitey

Quote from: RedHand88 on November 13, 2022, 04:01:48 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 13, 2022, 05:59:04 AM
That's it! Democratic Senate!

So much for the "red wave!"

Without being too clued up on thr intricacies of the 2 houses, is there any merit to having one without the other? My understanding was you needed both to pass legislation?

Typically a divided government is viewed as goo for the economy and the stock market


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/economy/story/2020-11-13/is-a-divided-government-good-for-the-economy

Also can be perceived as positive from a political standpoint

https://www.cato.org/commentary/government-works-better-when-divided



Jell 0 Biafra

#23727
From NYT  (just to clarify: when they write "limiting Republicans' opportunity to ... impeach and remove him", this is misleading. Biden can still be impeached, as that happens in the House.  To be removed from office, that requires a 60-40 vote in the senate, which is why Trump was twice impeached, but not removed from office either time.  So holding the senate or narrowly failing to do so wouldn't make a difference in terms of the likelihood of Biden being removed).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/13/us/politics/senate-democrats-republicans.html

While their margin of control in the chamber will remain razor thin — and far short of the supermajority needed to pass major legislation — it constitutes a lifeline for Mr. Biden, limiting Republicans' opportunity to wreak havoc on his agenda or to impeach and remove him or other members of his administration.

Democrats will retain the power to unilaterally confirm scores of additional Biden-appointed judges. They will also keep control of the Senate floor, allowing them to ensure that, should Republicans win the House majority, any legislation that could frustrate Mr. Biden's agenda or make life politically difficult for him and other Democrats never sees the light of day in the other chamber.

whitey

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 14, 2022, 04:22:45 AM
From NYT  (just to clarify: when they write "limiting Republicans' opportunity to ... impeach and remove him", this is misleading. Biden can still be impeached, as that happens in the House.  To be removed from office, that requires a 60-40 vote in the senate, which is why Trump was twice impeached, but not removed from office either time.  So holding the senate or narrowly failing to do so wouldn't make a difference in terms of the likelihood of Biden being removed).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/13/us/politics/senate-democrats-republicans.html

While their margin of control in the chamber will remain razor thin — and far short of the supermajority needed to pass major legislation — it constitutes a lifeline for Mr. Biden, limiting Republicans' opportunity to wreak havoc on his agenda or to impeach and remove him or other members of his administration.

Democrats will retain the power to unilaterally confirm scores of additional Biden-appointed judges. They will also keep control of the Senate floor, allowing them to ensure that, should Republicans win the House majority, any legislation that could frustrate Mr. Biden's agenda or make life politically difficult for him and other Democrats never sees the light of day in the other chamber.

The Republicans won't be able to get very much done themselves but might just use it to obstruct Bidens agenda

They might also have a problem with their "investigation". Clowns like MTG and Boebert won't sign on for anything less than all out war

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 14, 2022, 04:22:45 AM
From NYT  (just to clarify: when they write "limiting Republicans' opportunity to ... impeach and remove him", this is misleading. Biden can still be impeached, as that happens in the House.  To be removed from office, that requires a 60-40 vote in the senate, which is why Trump was twice impeached, but not removed from office either time.  So holding the senate or narrowly failing to do so wouldn't make a difference in terms of the likelihood of Biden being removed).

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/13/us/politics/senate-democrats-republicans.html

While their margin of control in the chamber will remain razor thin — and far short of the supermajority needed to pass major legislation — it constitutes a lifeline for Mr. Biden, limiting Republicans' opportunity to wreak havoc on his agenda or to impeach and remove him or other members of his administration.

Democrats will retain the power to unilaterally confirm scores of additional Biden-appointed judges. They will also keep control of the Senate floor, allowing them to ensure that, should Republicans win the House majority, any legislation that could frustrate Mr. Biden's agenda or make life politically difficult for him and other Democrats never sees the light of day in the other chamber.

Yup. What about the debt ceiling though? Can't the House Rethuglicans go back to the old hostage-taking trick of threatening a sovereign debt default if they don't get some bogus demand met?