Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Rossfan]

You must be totally upset that the French and Germans don't any longer have a war every few years 

[marty34]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

I just want to establish if there is anything that MON could do in that situation that you'd be happy with.

Thatcher is definitely not Sunak by the way, so that's a moot point.

Dont feed it 

Typical SF supporter response. Point out their hypocrisy and it's don't feed it. Ignore him.
It's an absolutely legitimate question to ask in the context of SFs past.
SF have always always criticised others, even mocked them for similar actions. SDLP are the stoops. But here we are. SF... the new stoops.

In your eyes, are political parties forbidden from changing policy, attitude, beliefs? Does society not change and should political parties not reflect that?

I don't know what % of SFs membership were members under Thatchers rule but I'd wager its low. Most will have joined since then (including the current First Minister).

On a scale of 1 to 10, how annoyed are you that this historic moment for Nationalism has been enjoyed by SF, not the SDLP?

I am delighted.
All I want to do is shine a light on SF's hypocrisy and the waste of over 3000s lives when we could have gotten to this point much sooner and many more lives would have been saved, especially the innocent ones.

Are you Seán Kelly in disguise?

[imtommygunn]

What would you have said if she'd blanked him?

[Franko]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

    

By your logic Sunak should refuse to deal with Macron because of Napoleon

Desperately clutching much?

[Armagh18]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

    

By your logic Sunak should refuse to deal with Macron because of Napoleon

Desperately clutching much?

Who's German chancellor these days? Couldn't be seen meeting them either

[Eire90]

if sinn fein lose the working class in the south they are done

[RedHand88]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

I just want to establish if there is anything that MON could do in that situation that you'd be happy with.

Thatcher is definitely not Sunak by the way, so that's a moot point.

Dont feed it 

Typical SF supporter response. Point out their hypocrisy and it's don't feed it. Ignore him.
It's an absolutely legitimate question to ask in the context of SFs past.
SF have always always criticised others, even mocked them for similar actions. SDLP are the stoops. But here we are. SF... the new stoops.

In your eyes, are political parties forbidden from changing policy, attitude, beliefs? Does society not change and should political parties not reflect that?

I don't know what % of SFs membership were members under Thatchers rule but I'd wager its low. Most will have joined since then (including the current First Minister).

On a scale of 1 to 10, how annoyed are you that this historic moment for Nationalism has been enjoyed by SF, not the SDLP?

I am delighted.
All I want to do is shine a light on SF's hypocrisy and the waste of over 3000s lives when we could have gotten to this point much sooner and many more lives would have been saved, especially the innocent ones.

I do have to ask why the lives taken by loyalist paramilitaries, British forces etc is now the responsibility of SF, especially since it was Loyalists who instigated the violence and the Troubles!

[trueblue1234]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

I just want to establish if there is anything that MON could do in that situation that you'd be happy with.

Thatcher is definitely not Sunak by the way, so that's a moot point.

Dont feed it 

Typical SF supporter response. Point out their hypocrisy and it's don't feed it. Ignore him.
It's an absolutely legitimate question to ask in the context of SFs past.
SF have always always criticised others, even mocked them for similar actions. SDLP are the stoops. But here we are. SF... the new stoops.

It's really not hypocrisy. The current British government isn't employing shoot to kill, interment, collusion, sectarian policing etc. it's a world away from the 70's, 80's and 90's.
The SDLP have become an irrelevance. They can blame SF for that if they wish, but the reality is that they should look at some of their actions and ask why so many voters left them in their droves. They showed a lack of leadership at pivotal times.

In the name of God

I can picture you grasping your pearls.

[weareros]

Regarding a border poll, it feels too much weight is being given to the Arins project published regularly by the Irish Times. It seems to have good people attached to it like Prof Brendan O'Leary but it's hard to believe the pro-Unity vote is at only 30% (up a whopping 1% since their last one) pro UK 51% after the Brexit shitshow, the state of Public Services in North, and Stormont/DUP inactive for 2 years when south is having big surpluses and creating Norway style sovereign funds. Their methodology seems impartial enough:

North and South methodology: How we took the pulse of Ireland on unity

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2022/12/03/taking-the-pulse-of-ireland-north-and-south/

If this project is going to be considered the standard for measuring attitudes, it gives the Brits a perfect excuse not to ever call one. Its results literally got written into their command paper (valentine to DUP). There are other polls that show it a tighter thing but get ignored. Plus in the actual local elections, the Unionist vote dipped below 40%. And it's an aging vote by all accounts. So surprising that there's a 21% gap in this poll.

[tiempo]

The Brits want out and they'll call a border poll when they can control/be sure of the outcome - the final betrayal of unionists.

[Snapchap]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

I just want to establish if there is anything that MON could do in that situation that you'd be happy with.

Thatcher is definitely not Sunak by the way, so that's a moot point.

Dont feed it 

Typical SF supporter response. Point out their hypocrisy and it's don't feed it. Ignore him.
It's an absolutely legitimate question to ask in the context of SFs past.
SF have always always criticised others, even mocked them for similar actions. SDLP are the stoops. But here we are. SF... the new stoops.

It's really not hypocrisy. The current British government isn't employing shoot to kill, interment, collusion, sectarian policing etc. it's a world away from the 70's, 80's and 90's.
The SDLP have become an irrelevance. They can blame SF for that if they wish, but the reality is that they should look at some of their actions and ask why so many voters left them in their droves. They showed a lack of leadership at pivotal times.

In the name of God

What? Are you saying the SDLP has been blessed with strong leaders in recent years? Let's take a brief look at each of Hume's successors:

Mark Durkan - Left to join the conservative FG for whom he failed to win a seat.
Margaret Ritchie - Lasted a full year in the role. Recently announced she was "delighted" to accept a Tory bestowed peerage. She now sits in the British House of Lords and goes by her chosen title 'Barrones Richie of Downpatrick'.
Alasdair McDonnell - Oversaw dramtic electoral decline. Attempted to forge links with the right wing PD's and regularly invited the right-wing, borderline racist Michael McDowell to canvass with him.
Colm Eastwood - Forged a failed "alliance" with Fianna Fáil - a conservative party led by a dyed-in-the-wool partitionist. Has overseen the SDLPs worst ever electoral performances.

[Tony Baloney]

What did we all make of MON hugging the Prime Minister of the UK?

Are SF the new Stoops? Surely diehard combatants are looking at this thinking WTF? Or families of IRA men killed by the British are saying to themselves what was this all about?

Incredible scenes. 

Would you rather she told him to eff off?

Was that the only two options? Hug him or f@ck him off?
It would appear that the IRAs campaign of violence was pretty pointless if the SF deputy leader was going to hug the British Prime Minister. Could you imagine MMcG hugging Thatcher?

I just want to establish if there is anything that MON could do in that situation that you'd be happy with.

Thatcher is definitely not Sunak by the way, so that's a moot point.

Dont feed it 

Typical SF supporter response. Point out their hypocrisy and it's don't feed it. Ignore him.
It's an absolutely legitimate question to ask in the context of SFs past.
SF have always always criticised others, even mocked them for similar actions. SDLP are the stoops. But here we are. SF... the new stoops.

It's really not hypocrisy. The current British government isn't employing shoot to kill, interment, collusion, sectarian policing etc. it's a world away from the 70's, 80's and 90's.
The SDLP have become an irrelevance. They can blame SF for that if they wish, but the reality is that they should look at some of their actions and ask why so many voters left them in their droves. They showed a lack of leadership at pivotal times.

In the name of God

What? Are you saying the SDLP has been blessed with strong leaders in recent years? Let's take a brief look at each of Hume's successors:

Mark Durkan - Left to join the conservative FG for whom he failed to win a seat.
Margaret Ritchie - Lasted a full year in the role. Recently announced she was "delighted" to accept a Tory bestowed peerage. She now sits in the British House of Lords and goes by her chosen title 'Barrones Richie of Downpatrick'.
Alasdair McDonnell - Oversaw dramtic electoral decline. Attempted to forge links with the right wing PD's and regularly invited the right-wing, borderline racist Michael McDowell to canvass with him.
Colm Eastwood - Forged a failed "alliance" with Fianna Fáil - a conservative party led by a dyed-in-the-wool partitionist. Has overseen the SDLPs worst ever electoral performances.

I think it is unfair to lay all the SDLP electoral decline at the door of the Eastwood. It has coincided with a changed SF post-GFA where voting for them was seen are a lot more palatable than when the Troubles were in full swing. As it stands I don't see any way back for them.

[Eire90]

one of the reason of sdlp decline is there militant approach to the vaccine.

[Eire90]

Shouts of sinn fein are traitors at mondays protests.

[Snapchap]

one of the reason of sdlp decline is there militant approach to the vaccine.

Is that a serious post? Dear god please tell me it's not.