The Many Faces of US Politics...

[sid waddell]

Would anyone have an article on how the economy performed during Obama and trumps presidenty

I don't have an article but there is a hairdresser somewhere who is up another 1200 dollars over the last few years so that should tell you all you need to know

gas listening to guys from Ireland talking about how stupid Us voters are when the same party that wrecked the economy there and hundreds of thousands of livelihoods are back in power , but Irish electorate are so Smart , sure they are . As For the nordies still Voting down religious lines even though most haven't seen the inside of a church/chapel in years , very enlightened indeed.

Em, I don't think you've got the irony of what you wrote there but I'll spell it out for you anywho

You're now criticising the Irish people for voting (in much reduced numbers than before) for the party that crashed the economy (resulting in them being in a position to enter a multi-party coalition government due to the fragmented nature of the Irish parliamentary system)

While simultaneously you're an all out cultist for the party that crashed the US economy, arguably the world economy

Didn't really think that one through, did you

But sure plus ca change and all that

Also while I would be very far from being a Fianna Fáil supporter I recognise the difference between a fascist party and a non-fascist party

Fianna Fáil, whatever they are, are not a fascist party

The Republican party are

Fianna Fáil are not the Republican party - even if they may still claim they are

[Rossfan]

No matter how stupid we Irish (26 Co) may be we only gave the local Trumpites 0 8% in the GE.

[Captain Obvious]

Would anyone have an article on how the economy performed during Obama and trumps presidenty

I don't have an article but there is a hairdresser somewhere who is up another 1200 dollars over the last few years so that should tell you all you need to know

gas listening to guys from Ireland talking about how stupid Us voters are when the same party that wrecked the economy there and hundreds of thousands of livelihoods are back in power , but Irish electorate are so Smart , sure they are . As For the nordies still Voting down religious lines even though most haven't seen the inside of a church/chapel in years , very enlightened indeed.

The US economy was wrecked with 8 years of Bush Junior.

Voting in poor politicians is one thing however voting for a dangerous narcissist man child who is a racist, bigot and whom entices violence is a whole different level of stupid.

[Gmac]

No matter how stupid we Irish (26 Co) may be we only gave the local Trumpites 0 8% in the GE.

never said anyone was stupid .

[J70]

Apparently 100K provisional ballots to be sorted through in PA.

Its probably going to be next week before they call it.

Come on ta f**k Nevada and Arizona!

[sid waddell]

I presume this is because saying "President-elect Biden" would make Fox anchors and their viewers cry

Hurt feelings are a terrible thing

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/06/media/fox-news-election-projection-plan/index.html

New York (CNN Business)Fox News, the cable network that has been one of President Trump's most important supporters, told anchors and other staffers not to call Joe Biden the "President-elect" when the network calls the race, according to two memos obtained by CNN Business.

The memos said that Fox should "stay away" from using the description, and instead say something like Biden has "enough electoral votes to win the presidency."

[ONeill]

How's things now Redzone?

[Eamonnca1]

The "f**k your feelings" crowd are now suddenly very concerned about the importance of respecting people's feelings when they're hurting after a defeat.


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'Give People Time!' CNN's Rick Santorum Pleads for Everyone to Let Trump and His Fans Work Out Their Feelings About Losing

CNN analyst Rick Santorum issued an unironic plea for everyone to give President Donald Trump and his supporters time and space to work through the emotional experience of losing the presidency to former Vice President Joe Biden.

On the Friday morning when Biden took a likely insurmountable lead in Pennsylvania and all but secured his victory over Trump, Santorum told a CNN panel not to rush Trump and his fans into conceding.

As the panel discussed how it was that someone could talk Trump into accepting defeat, Santorum declared "Give people time!"

"You know he's just found out that he's probably not going to be the president of the United States here, and you can say 'Well it was in the cards,' but you don't know until the votes are counted. I mean listen to John King," Santorum said.


"It's democracy's schedule It's not Donald Trump's," Gloria Borger interrupted.

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"Give his supporters and everybody time to figure this out," Santorum continued, and thanked David Axelrod for criticizing the Biden campaign statement that if Trump doesn't leave, "the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House."

"It's not time to, that kind of rhetoric is not going to be helpful," Santorum said. "This is a very emotional time."

He asserted that the same would be true in the reverse situation, and said "Let the process work. Give people space to work through this."

Van Jones said he agreed with Santorum, explaining that "people wanted Hillary to Clinton to come out that night and she needed a minute. And her supporters needed a minute and she came out the next day."

But Jones added "I don't think we're looking at this same situation with Donald Trump. The fear that people have is that this isn't about him kind of getting himself together to come out and make a responsible speech, that he just is going to be a bitter ender."

Time will tell how much space a political movement that was infamously fueled by what it called "liberal tears" will be given to work through its feelings.

Watch the clip above via CNN.

[screenexile]

Not so sure how comfortable I am with Biden claiming victory without it being called anywhere.

Yeah he's going to win but I think it fuels the fire and makes things worse.

This thing needs called by 4-5 outlets to make it concrete and it should happen tomorrow all being well Trump isn't appearing tonight so I do t see what's to gain by claiming victory tonight.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Snowflakes.

[RedHand88]

Snowflakes.

Triggered.

[Eamonnca1]

Take yer beating!

[tyssam5]

Given Trumps remarks about veterans and also his general demeanour I would imagine that he would not be favoured by military men. They are not red-neck, sister shaggers with guns like a lot of his supporters.

A lot of them sister shaggers? Thats a ridiculous comment. Plently of ordinary folk vote for Trump for numerous different reasons. Plenty of ordinary folk vote for Biden for numerous different reasons too.

Fair point, but I also think it's fair to say Trump probably won the sister shagging demographic.

[screenexile]

Tucker reckons Joe Biden is a hologram and that big tech and corporate America are behind the projector!!!

But y'know the liberals are crazy 

[J70]

Not so sure how comfortable I am with Biden claiming victory without it being called anywhere.

Yeah he's going to win but I think it fuels the fire and makes things worse.

This thing needs called by 4-5 outlets to make it concrete and it should happen tomorrow all being well Trump isn't appearing tonight so I do t see what's to gain by claiming victory tonight.

I'd imagine he'll wait until it's called.

What's the hurry? It's not like him claiming victory has any legal implication anyway.

Let Trump the fuckin gobshite declare victory and "claim" PA, MI and so on.