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« Reply #33750 on: November 08, 2020, 06:03:33 PM »
My god can we please get off this Branagan bandwagon.. even the commentators talked about it.. Aidan is nearly 37, Niall is 33, Aaron is 30, Daryl and Eugene are a hood age to play inter county football but thatís it.. plus Doherty loses his first 4 balls in the tackle today and PD fails to shine yet again for county - letís be honest kilcoo have Ryan and Jerome ready for first team and Ryan McEvoy with bit of league football next year could step up - I doubt Sheelan will - I remember him with minors few years back - beat Armagh on his own in extra time but other games - attitude was poor..
Big Murdock was solid in full back ably supported by Peter Fegan, McKernan looks rusty - canít understand teams allowing him to be sweeper!! OHagan was very good, OíHare will be disappointed with being taken off and Jerome in flashes showed what he is capable off..
subs RJ and Cory Quinn kicked good scores. Bench will be important next weekend v Cavan
sad thing is though @37 aidan choc would walk onto that down team! How Poland and flynn make that team is shocking,

If that isnít a wind up itís one of the most ridiculous statements I have heard in a long time.

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« Reply #33751 on: November 08, 2020, 06:06:36 PM »
Noticed Dylan Ward wasnt named on the bench, he injured? Hopefully still involved in the panel, he definitely has something to offer, especially given how badly we struggle in the middle.

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« Reply #33752 on: November 08, 2020, 06:09:39 PM »
Would agree with that

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« Reply #33753 on: November 08, 2020, 06:11:30 PM »
Noticed Dylan Ward wasnt named on the bench, he injured? Hopefully still involved in the panel, he definitely has something to offer, especially given how badly we struggle in the middle.

Maybe he missed his lift? Prob spending his time ringing Paul faloon

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« Reply #33754 on: November 08, 2020, 07:42:22 PM »
Hopefully Ward is still involved as Cavan are beatable, would have preferred to face them than Monaghan.
Fermanagh were poor; they have had a difficult preparation and lost key players but Down did well in the second half. Tally got his selection and tactics spot on, as he usually does. Nobody had a bad game and while O'Hagan scored four super points, Mooney was the class act on show. Three critical turnovers in the first half, two great points and a brilliant run for the goal was some return for a man coming back from a fractured skull. While his talent is clear, his reading of the game has improved beyond recognition and Marty Clarke called it right that he thrives when surrounded by good players. He was a worthy captain today in the absence of Darren so well done to all involved.

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« Reply #33755 on: November 08, 2020, 08:38:57 PM »
Let's he honest... Have we really a hope against any of cavan, Armagh or donegal? Each of those sides have settled mfs. We don't.
wise up. It's no secret Donegal and Tyrone are on different level to rest of ulster but on any given day any of the other teams could beat each other. To say down have no hope against cavan is just ridiculous.
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« Reply #33756 on: November 08, 2020, 09:24:51 PM »
Tally called it right again today, as Dubh Driocht says, and we need him to come up with a plan which will restrict Cavan's influence at midfield. It's amazing that Paddy Power is quoting Down 4/6 and Cavan 6/4 when it should probably be the other way about, but, if it comes to a tight finish, our bench is capable of making the difference.

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« Reply #33757 on: November 08, 2020, 10:11:50 PM »
Noticed Dylan Ward wasnt named on the bench, he injured? Hopefully still involved in the panel, he definitely has something to offer, especially given how badly we struggle in the middle.

Maybe he missed his lift? Prob spending his time ringing Paul faloon

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« Reply #33758 on: November 09, 2020, 07:23:42 AM »
Some good scores in the second half (and O'Hagans at end of first).

Still massive problems winning primary possession though. Hard to see how we'd survive if someone pushed up on our kickouts for the full 70.
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« Reply #33759 on: November 09, 2020, 08:49:22 AM »
A great second half performance yesterday and the subs made a big impact. We need to sort out midfield as this is were Cavan beat Monaghan and their midfield is not bad. I would start Ryan Johnston as he is a better footballer than both midfielders who played yesterday.
Impressed with Fegan , Laverty and Guinness in defence and with Murdock looking solid at 3 there is something to build on there. Up front  we definitely have some classy players who when given room can hurt teams. Interesting use of Kerr and Quinn who are in my opinion in the top 6 forwards in the county but coming on to a tired defence caused a lot of problems and Down were dominant from then on.
The only Branaigan who would get near that team would be Dabs. The gulf between club and county is fierce.
I am hopeful for next week but it will be won with our match ups and line up. Its a massive opportunity to get to an Ulster final . But the pace we possess is frightening and if we can utilize it then we will cause plenty of teams problems.

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« Reply #33760 on: November 09, 2020, 09:32:41 AM »
A great second half performance yesterday and the subs made a big impact. We need to sort out midfield as this is were Cavan beat Monaghan and their midfield is not bad. I would start Ryan Johnston as he is a better footballer than both midfielders who played yesterday.
Impressed with Fegan , Laverty and Guinness in defence and with Murdock looking solid at 3 there is something to build on there. Up front  we definitely have some classy players who when given room can hurt teams. Interesting use of Kerr and Quinn who are in my opinion in the top 6 forwards in the county but coming on to a tired defence caused a lot of problems and Down were dominant from then on.
The only Branaigan who would get near that team would be Dabs. The gulf between club and county is fierce.
I am hopeful for next week but it will be won with our match ups and line up. Its a massive opportunity to get to an Ulster final . But the pace we possess is frightening and if we can utilize it then we will cause plenty of teams problems.

Good win in my limited opinion.

The number 2 looks like a proper defender, able to dispossess an opponent in one on one situations, like hens teeth in the modern game. The forwards can score from distance rather than having to walk it into the 21 yard line first, plenty of pace in and around the middle which is good, but kick outs and high balls into the defence must be a concern as it looks to be a small enough team in general. Breaking the ball down in midfield is okay if you've numbers waiting on it, but in the first half in particular Fermanagh won quite a few of those balls pretty easily.

Down improved immeasurably in the second half, but a lot of the Fermanagh players didn't exactly look like prime athletes but a win is a win and move on to this weekend.

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« Reply #33761 on: November 09, 2020, 05:36:42 PM »
A great second half performance yesterday and the subs made a big impact. We need to sort out midfield as this is were Cavan beat Monaghan and their midfield is not bad. I would start Ryan Johnston as he is a better footballer than both midfielders who played yesterday.
Impressed with Fegan , Laverty and Guinness in defence and with Murdock looking solid at 3 there is something to build on there. Up front  we definitely have some classy players who when given room can hurt teams. Interesting use of Kerr and Quinn who are in my opinion in the top 6 forwards in the county but coming on to a tired defence caused a lot of problems and Down were dominant from then on.
The only Branaigan who would get near that team would be Dabs. The gulf between club and county is fierce.

So downjim do you think that the likes of pierce laverty (who played well yesterday no doubt) playing his club football in division 2 is fit for county football but not aaron branagan whose been a standout performer for kilcoo senior championship winning teams every year for the last number of years?? Seems a strange assessment.

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« Reply #33762 on: November 09, 2020, 07:09:36 PM »
A great second half performance yesterday and the subs made a big impact. We need to sort out midfield as this is were Cavan beat Monaghan and their midfield is not bad. I would start Ryan Johnston as he is a better footballer than both midfielders who played yesterday.
Impressed with Fegan , Laverty and Guinness in defence and with Murdock looking solid at 3 there is something to build on there. Up front  we definitely have some classy players who when given room can hurt teams. Interesting use of Kerr and Quinn who are in my opinion in the top 6 forwards in the county but coming on to a tired defence caused a lot of problems and Down were dominant from then on.
The only Branaigan who would get near that team would be Dabs. The gulf between club and county is fierce.

So downjim do you think that the likes of pierce laverty (who played well yesterday no doubt) playing his club football in division 2 is fit for county football but not aaron branagan whose been a standout performer for kilcoo senior championship winning teams every year for the last number of years?? Seems a strange assessment.

Aaron, Aidan, Dabs, Eugene, Niall DO NOT WANT TO PLAY COUNTY FOOTBALL.. Wee James tried, Jim McCorry tried (he had a good insight with them too), Eamon Burns god rest him tried and paddy Tally has tried. They donít want to play, they are fiercely committed to their club but not county - not ever... can we PLEASE move on...
Joe Fitzpatrick, Gavin Comiskey, Colm ONeill, Anthony Cunningham, Miceal Moley, Martin Calliff, Donal Murtagh all played for Crossmaglen and won 1/2/3 All Irelandís but never played county senior football in Armaghís glory years between 99-08... This happens. Successful club teams have fierce committed players who absolutely excel at club level but donít want to play county or have tried and didnít adjust to the pace, commitment or physicality of it.. Can we please for the love off god move on from the Brannagins and indeed other Kilcoo players not on the panel...

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« Reply #33763 on: November 10, 2020, 10:23:56 AM »
Canít understand why any kilcoo lads went to the county after county board members cheering for corofin in croke park, ward was dropped for going to rough in training

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« Reply #33764 on: November 10, 2020, 11:27:54 AM »
A great second half performance yesterday and the subs made a big impact. We need to sort out midfield as this is were Cavan beat Monaghan and their midfield is not bad. I would start Ryan Johnston as he is a better footballer than both midfielders who played yesterday.
Impressed with Fegan , Laverty and Guinness in defence and with Murdock looking solid at 3 there is something to build on there. Up front  we definitely have some classy players who when given room can hurt teams. Interesting use of Kerr and Quinn who are in my opinion in the top 6 forwards in the county but coming on to a tired defence caused a lot of problems and Down were dominant from then on.
The only Branaigan who would get near that team would be Dabs. The gulf between club and county is fierce.

So downjim do you think that the likes of pierce laverty (who played well yesterday no doubt) playing his club football in division 2 is fit for county football but not aaron branagan whose been a standout performer for kilcoo senior championship winning teams every year for the last number of years?? Seems a strange assessment.

Not a strange assessment I am just giving my opinion, the 5 lads have been excellent stalwarts for their club throughout the years and I commend their efforts. But players who excel at club level do not necessarily excel at county level. Aaron a few years ago would have been good enough for the squad  and Choc was around the squad for a few years but could never cement a consistent place in the first 15. But what a club player and that is not being patronising IMA.

There are countless throughout Down and the rest of the country .

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-lundy-latest-to-see-gulf-between-club-and-county-1.2251717