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That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

In this instance he blew only for the second foul, after sounding his whistle and giving his decision, he then was confronted by the linesman and changed it.

There is nothing in the rules to say he can do that

Would he only be allowed to overturn a foul for foul play?

Some effort put into that game yesterday, couldn't fault that! Wasn't easy to watch at times, but fully understand why they did it. Any word on Barry? Didn't look good him coming off.

Few weeks off and then hopefully give the Tailteann cup another rattle, I'm sure there will be a few more players brought into the squad aswell for that, likes of Ruairi O'Hare, John McGovern.

Is Ruairi about the panel? Desperatley need a big man who can win his own ball and hit a score

Disappointed with the defeat in the end. Laverty went in with a plan that ultimatley frustrated Armagh thorughout the game but failure to get tight on Rian O'Neill for the middle 20 minutes of the match and easy free's given away for Grugan to tap over plus failure to take our own good chances (Havern missed free and Laverty mark at the end) cost us. I have to say I'm annoyed that the last kick of the game was left to a 20 year old to shoulder the responsability. Would have liked to have seen Kerr step up or maybe Ryan J who had a good game have a go. We really lack a ball winning forward and two elite free takers to get us over the line in these tighter games.

On a finishing note, hope Barry's injury isn't an aggrevation of his previous injury. Certainly looked in discomfort straight away. Wish him all the best in recovery.

[near the goal]

By the letter of the law it was a pull down. The law was to stop cynical fouls when a player is in loads of space. The play was well away from it. There was two at that and the evidence suggests Hampsey didn't start it. It should have been two yellows.

On the one at the end of extra time, it looked like McKernan(?) wanted to put himself in the way, but that the Cavan player also looked to get the contact too. Does every time a player gives a wee push to another one off the ball, regardless of where the ball is, does that count as a black by the letter of the law because it's impeding. McCurry was pulling up with cramp and a Cavan player bundled him over, is that a black for impeding him? There were a lot of high tackles by Cavan players which went unpunished too which Cavan fans conveniently ignore too.

 All this inconsistent application and never ending debates about technical interpreation is tiresome and takes away from the joy of football.

The GAA need to simplify the rules. I think give a black if a player tries to stop a free being taken (as this is a regular tactic to foul and slow the free taken so as to get men back). If a player tries to cynically stop a goal scoring opportunity, be it near the goal or where the team has loads of space in front of them, give a penalty. If a team keeps committing fouls, like rugby, give a black card once a threshold has been passed. Get rid of the forward mark.

You're asking to simplify the rules but then add in rules which will be interpreted differently by every ref lol.

Players play within the rules and we are good to go?

You've just put in a rule now where there is no accurate defintion. What counts as near the goal and loads of space? Just asking for trouble with adding in subjective rules

Once patton realised he'd effed up by faking an injury he sprinted at top speed over to the dug out so he could come back on     

So were Donegal  without  a keeper while play continued?

yea for about a minute and a half

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjQrnImT_k

Lets get the band back together

That was outside!!

Goal scoring opportunity doesn't have to be inside.  3-8 to 0-10

Should it be a black card then?

No. The denial of goal scoring chance isn't an automatic black card offence. For this rule to take effect the foul itself must be a black card offence which the derry defender didn't commit

Goal scoring opportunity so once its inside 21 its a pen. Thought it should be black under new rule?

David all about me Gough has to give a black card for something after.

No. It must be a black card offence which denies a goal scoring opportunity.

It wasn't a black card offence.

Black card wasn't given. Gough thought it was inside.

Correct.

Goal scoring opportunity so once its inside 21 its a pen. Thought it should be black under new rule?

David all about me Gough has to give a black card for something after.

Wasn't a black card foul so Gough must have just thought contact was in the box

That was outside!!

Goal scoring opportunity doesn't have to be inside.  3-8 to 0-10

Has to be a black card for the offender for that rule to come into play

I know Oran will probably get a lot of flak personally but I'm sure he's doing exactly what Harte has asked him to do.

What was written on the pitch?

Good goal if you dont count the steps

Wrong man send off there, I think the boy in question didn't come out of the changing room.

I'm sure the real culprit will be dealt with retrospectivelty

I think back when I was in school a school that competed at A level could send 3 players, B level could send 2 players and a C level school could send 1 player