Films and TV shows which will be banned

Started by Milltown Row2, June 10, 2020, 10:29:45 AM

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sid waddell

I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

Using this logic, there is literally no difference between the Black and White Minstrel Show and, say, Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing".

It bears out completely what I say about how right-wing culture warriors use simplistic, nonsense arguments when nuance is needed, yet try to introduce false nuance when something is a case of the bleedin' obvious.

It makes me wonder: what exactly are these right-wing culture warriors afraid of?


Gmac

Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

Using this logic, there is literally no difference between the Black and White Minstrel Show and, say, Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing".

It bears out completely what I say about how right-wing culture warriors use simplistic, nonsense arguments when nuance is needed, yet try to introduce false nuance when something is a case of the bleedin' obvious.

It makes me wonder: what exactly are these right-wing culture warriors afraid of?
you are concentrating on racism towards black people everyone else is broadening the scope to include all the other things people can be offended by , don't be so selective in your outrage.

sid waddell

Quote from: Gmac on June 11, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

Using this logic, there is literally no difference between the Black and White Minstrel Show and, say, Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing".

It bears out completely what I say about how right-wing culture warriors use simplistic, nonsense arguments when nuance is needed, yet try to introduce false nuance when something is a case of the bleedin' obvious.

It makes me wonder: what exactly are these right-wing culture warriors afraid of?
you are concentrating on racism towards black people everyone else is broadening the scope to include all the other things people can be offended by , don't be so selective in your outrage.

Jesus wept. You obviously don't read my posts. I unfortunately read yours, which is why I know how much you have to contribute on this sort of topic, which isn't much.

Taylor

Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 03:01:49 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 11, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

Using this logic, there is literally no difference between the Black and White Minstrel Show and, say, Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing".

It bears out completely what I say about how right-wing culture warriors use simplistic, nonsense arguments when nuance is needed, yet try to introduce false nuance when something is a case of the bleedin' obvious.

It makes me wonder: what exactly are these right-wing culture warriors afraid of?
you are concentrating on racism towards black people everyone else is broadening the scope to include all the other things people can be offended by , don't be so selective in your outrage.

Jesus wept. You obviously don't read my posts. I unfortunately read yours, which is why I know how much you have to contribute on this sort of topic, which isn't much.

;D ;D
You are some piece of work Sid - all I can do is laugh at your posts because it impossible to decipher the nonsense from the valid points

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tony Baloney

Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 03:01:49 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 11, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

Using this logic, there is literally no difference between the Black and White Minstrel Show and, say, Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing".

It bears out completely what I say about how right-wing culture warriors use simplistic, nonsense arguments when nuance is needed, yet try to introduce false nuance when something is a case of the bleedin' obvious.

It makes me wonder: what exactly are these right-wing culture warriors afraid of?
you are concentrating on racism towards black people everyone else is broadening the scope to include all the other things people can be offended by , don't be so selective in your outrage.

Jesus wept. You obviously don't read my posts. I unfortunately read yours, which is why I know how much you have to contribute on this sort of topic, which isn't much.
You should take a day off from being champion of the downtrodden.

macdanger2

Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

I largely agree with Sid on this, it should be possible to discuss whether or not something is offensive or not without getting into ridiculous whataboutery. I personally don't think a lot of these things should be banned and the idea of having a notice at the beginning of the films seems like a good one.

That said, I'm not the one being portrayed in a negative light in most of these films - if the people who are being portrayed in a negative manner consider something in a film to be offensive then I might change my opinion on it.

whitey

I propose all images of Che Guevara be banned as he interned gay people in concentration camps and tortured them



Gmac

Quote from: whitey on June 11, 2020, 04:20:07 PM
I propose all images of Che Guevara be banned as he interned gay people in concentration camps and tortured them
dont tell ghat to Mick wallace

whitey

Quote from: J70 on June 11, 2020, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 11, 2020, 04:27:38 PM
I propose banning the works of George Bernard Shaw  given his support for Stalin (who murdered tens of millions of people)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/09/11/opinion/why-george-bernard-shaw-had-a-crush-on-stalin.amp.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1433323/How-Shaw-defended-Stalins-mass-killings.html

Are the works themselves offensive?

I don't know but why would you promote and memorialize someone who supported such a vile regime


sid waddell

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Quote from: macdanger2 on June 11, 2020, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 11, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

I largely agree with Sid on this, it should be possible to discuss whether or not something is offensive or not without getting into ridiculous whataboutery. I personally don't think a lot of these things should be banned and the idea of having a notice at the beginning of the films seems like a good one.

That said, I'm not the one being portrayed in a negative light in most of these films - if the people who are being portrayed in a negative manner consider something in a film to be offensive then I might change my opinion on it.
It's much easier for not very bright people to argue against a straw man than to argue actual issues.

The right-wing culture war humanity is under attack from is based on only ever arguing against straw men.

The straw men are designed to evoke a visceral reaction from straight, white men that their very existence is under attack.

The straw men are designed to destroy critical thinking and make everything a tribal war based on fake anger and offence on the part of the right-wing culture warrior.

The right-wing culture war and its straw men are designed to turn any assertion of rights on the part of traditionally marginalised groups in society, into an imagined "attack" on the straight, white male, ie. it deliberately distorts reality, in fact it turns reality completely on its head so that right-wing cultuure warriors are fooled into believing the opposite of reality.

The attack on so callled "political correctness" and the line "where does it stop?" are classic examples of this right-wing culture war fake victimhood.

Quite the neat trick the designers of this right-wing culture war have pulled off, really, and thoroughly depressing how many people are fooled by it.









sid waddell

Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2020, 03:20:10 PM
You should take a day off from being champion of the downtrodden.
Telling me to go away isn't an argument.

Speaks volumes that you have such a problem with the "downtrodden".