Down Club Hurling & Football

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oakleaflad

Quote from: Smurfy123 on December 21, 2020, 08:41:03 AM
We are miles behind at underage level
How come the all conquering Burren team which many believe is this best this county has ever produced can win with such ease but yet the county get knocked out in the first round by Fermanagh?
Make no mistake this team were touted in many quarters to win the All Ireland
Maybe it was just an off day and Fermanagh had one of those days?
Where did this expectation come from? Not trying to rub it in but Down genuinely would have been no better than Derry, Tyrone, Donegal, Monaghan and maybe Armagh and Cavan too at U15/16 with the same age group and that's only in Ulster. Derry won the respective U15 and U16 competitions against Cavan and Donegal in the finals but there isn't a whole lot between most of the sides to be honest. Talk of an All Ireland is crazy from any Ulster side.

befair

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 22, 2020, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on December 21, 2020, 08:41:03 AM
We are miles behind at underage level
How come the all conquering Burren team which many believe is this best this county has ever produced can win with such ease but yet the county get knocked out in the first round by Fermanagh?
Make no mistake this team were touted in many quarters to win the All Ireland
Maybe it was just an off day and Fermanagh had one of those days?
Where did this expectation come from? Not trying to rub it in but Down genuinely would have been no better than Derry, Tyrone, Donegal, Monaghan and maybe Armagh and Cavan too at U15/16 with the same age group and that's only in Ulster. Derry won the respective U15 and U16 competitions against Cavan and Donegal in the finals but there isn't a whole lot between most of the sides to be honest. Talk of an All Ireland is crazy from any Ulster side.

A good club minor underage team means little at county level. I was involved with a good under-age side who won nearly everything on their way up the ranks. We strolled the county minor championship, but even so had only one player on the county squad. If Burren had 8 on the county team it's a failure of scouting and recruitment from all the other clubs

Lloyd p

Just a word on the down minors. Of course teams can have an off day and it just didn't seem to happen for the lads on the day. Thought Fermanagh's number 6 and 11 were the two real stand out players on the pitch. In regards to the expectations and hype around this team, there seems to be a lot of this in down and it never does any good. Tipping this team for ulsters and all Irelands before a ball was kicked was madness and maybe young fellas start to buy into this. For anyone in the know, would any of these lads be thought of as the best in the country for there age group? Players in the past like benny coulter, Marty Clarke and Paul mccomiskey were at this age group and had a big say in their teams winning all Ireland's. From the evidence I seen on Sunday this wouldn't be the case but I could be wrong.

Lotto

According to the greatest coach in Ireland and now ex Down Minor coach, he is helping some lads on twitter to pick an All Stars football side. Perhaps he would have been better concentrating on picking a minor team that could have beaten Fermanagh last Sunday. He's also on an All Ireland Final review podcast and all talk about that game. Very interesting that he hasn't put forward an analysis of his own teams last Sunday on any of his usual formats, now I would listen to that one but he hasn't the balls to do it. Plenty of talk about other coaches and their teams performance but perhaps he needs to look in the mirror first.

Sandstorm

Happy Christmas to all Gaels, I hope this dreadful pandemics soon defeated, everyone stays safe and healthy and we can all get back to watching attractive games. Also that the greatest coach of all time realises that despite the effort you make to stop the opposition scoring, you still have to get more scores than them to win.

Calm Down

If stories are to be believed the Down CB are appealing the red card for the minor who was spitting! If this is true it is disgusting and an awful example to set for a U17 basically tells him that there should be no consequences for his actions

Johnnysboys

Quote from: Calm Down on December 26, 2020, 03:10:59 PM
If stories are to be believed the Down CB are appealing the red card for the minor who was spitting! If this is true it is disgusting and an awful example to set for a U17 basically tells him that there should be no consequences for his actions

Whatever happened to the day when you just took your punishment?? Got sent off for whatever you just sat out the necessary time (which usually meant you missed a few games) but society nowadays we appeal everything, set the wrong precedent esp to young players that they can do as they please and we will get you off on a technicality or something stupid..
on a side note - I heard the keeper got sent off after the final whistle for booting the ball at the ref and that is the red they are appealing not the spitting incident.. still setting wrong precedent IMO..

Mourne Red

Quote from: Johnnysboys on December 27, 2020, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 26, 2020, 03:10:59 PM
If stories are to be believed the Down CB are appealing the red card for the minor who was spitting! If this is true it is disgusting and an awful example to set for a U17 basically tells him that there should be no consequences for his actions

Whatever happened to the day when you just took your punishment?? Got sent off for whatever you just sat out the necessary time (which usually meant you missed a few games) but society nowadays we appeal everything, set the wrong precedent esp to young players that they can do as they please and we will get you off on a technicality or something stupid..
on a side note - I heard the keeper got sent off after the final whistle for booting the ball at the ref and that is the red they are appealing not the spitting incident.. still setting wrong precedent IMO..

If the goalkeeper hit the ref with the ball then maybe a senior debut for him next year, could do with some accurate kicks from our goalkeepers

Calm Down

Having seen a video of the goalkeeper kick incident I think any grounds of appeal will be weak! Whilst it was not booted at the ref it is clear the keeper took his time to line up the kick at the ref and hit him with it, the only defence can be that he was kicking the ball away, however the video would suggest otherwise

Ed Hardy

Any word on any new faces in the Down panel for 2021 or any returning players? Are the Millars from Glenn still in Oz? G McGovern back involved? See Doherty due back in Ireland soon, be good to see him involved again. Be interesting to see if Shay McCartan makes himself available for the county.

Ed Hardy

Conor Francis is another who looked decent footballer before he left. Any word in him?

general

Quote from: Ed Hardy on December 30, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
Any word on any new faces in the Down panel for 2021 or any returning players? Are the Millars from Glenn still in Oz? G McGovern back involved? See Doherty due back in Ireland soon, be good to see him involved again. Be interesting to see if Shay McCartan makes himself available for the county.

Shay McCartan playing soccer for Ballymena United - won't be playing for Glenn nor Down

Lotto

Did anyone else hear that Down seniors were apparently put off the Abbey pitch by the PSNI last night?

Absolutely ridiculous if this is true. 

Smurfy123

It's common knowledge now lotto
Absolutely disgraceful especially with the high numbers in that area
Jesus give it a few weeks until things settle
What's the rule on county and club training?
Elite ok?

Lotto

From Hoganstand

GAA confirms no collective training for inter-county teams until February
January 05, 2021

Inter-county teams will not be allowed to hold collective training sessions throughout January
The GAA has announced that no collective training for inter-county teams will be permitted for at least the remainder of January.

January 15th had been the date set out for inter-county teams to resume training with the National Leagues set to commence at the end of February.

However, in a letter sent out to all county board secretaries this morning, GAA Director General Tom Ryan cited "the current exceptional rise in infection rates of Covid-19 and the increased risk of community transmission" as the reason why teams cannot go back to collective training this month.

Mr Ryan added that club and county gyms must also stay closed until further notice and that breaches of these provisions will be dealt with under Rule 7.2 (e) of the officials guide, which is the rule that refers to misconduct considered to have discredited the Association.

"As you are aware the current Level 5 restrictions in the South will run until January 31at which point the GAA will review the current situation and any further advice in this context will be provided," Mr Ryan's letter reads.

"Finally, it is important to note that outdoor gatherings on GAA property are not permitted – the only current exemption to this is for walkways (which may stay open for use by the community with social distancing in place) and for clubs registered for the 'Ireland Lights Up' walking initiative.

"I fully appreciate the frustrations these additional restrictions may place on our inter-county players and management teams.

"However, the safety of everyone in the game and indeed the broader community has to be our primary focus.

"It has never been more important for our players, coaches and officials to follow both the Government guidelines and our own provisions around training."