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GAA Discussion / Re: Should Dublin be banned from championship?
« on: April 03, 2021, 12:53:04 PM »
GAA needs to lay down a marker. Should the dubs be banned from 2021 championship? Reports of 32 at training session.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/dublin-gaa-players-photographed-at-dawn-training-session-465229

Ban them, then split them in 4.

Good point.

Split them in 4 then ban the 4 teams

 ;D ;D very good.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: April 01, 2021, 09:02:44 PM »
When Down and Cork were caught training the GAA also announced that a 3rd Leinster county had been caught. Why were they never named🙄🙄🙄🙄

The 3rd Leinster county wasn't Laois or Dublin and are well known for pissing away all their advantages and blaming others.

Touching and emotional that Kildare are uppermost in your thoughts at times like this.  8)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: April 01, 2021, 11:07:00 AM »
Two leading counties from you know where held a challenge game last weekend. Everyone else is at it, why should Dublin not be?

Another Leinster county renowned for skirting collective training bans in the past using spurious charity vehicles were also collectively training.

Yawn, move on.

 ;D ;D

Rattled

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 24, 2020, 07:06:23 PM »
Are you another with the opinion that everyone just needs to try harder?

Do you even have to ask? And you wonder why they are disliked by many.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 18, 2020, 08:12:24 PM »
I think travelling expenses have been covered centrally since the season restarted. It would make sense to keep it that way going forward.

Do all intercounty teams get travel expenses? As in minor and u20? Or just senior.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 10, 2020, 09:08:24 AM »
If you're going from Cork to Letterkenny in Donegal that's about an 800km round trip. I must admit I haven't clue how you get to Croke Park and back that it takes you 800km round trip.

Even travelling from Dingle to Dublin and back is only about 650km. Can you put up a Google map of your approximate journey so you can show me where my maths/geography is going wrong?

I live in the south of the country. I have travelled to Derry, Sligo and Antrim to matches. I never mentioned Croke Park - that was you. Not so  smart now are you?

No need to apologise.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 10, 2020, 06:58:53 AM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

I wouldn't be getting worked up about that person.  Says hasn't been to a game since 2013 but logs into website to have a rant about Dublin. Obviously has a couple personal issues if has a horn for the dubs. What county is that poster from? Back to topic McCaffrey is a credit to his club and county. Best luck in his retirement.

That person has a name. I haven't been to an intercounty game since 2013. I regularly attend club games. But its kinda nice to have my own stalker.

Still bitter over Seanie? Time to get over it.

Good to know you haven't been to inter county games in the last few years. That way there's no chance I could have been unfortunate and unlucky enough to have met you. If anyone's bitter it's yourself based on your opinion of the dubs and/or McCaffrey
 

Yea I haven't been since 2013 so there is a good chance we never crossed paths. Since you only started following the game around then.

1st inter county game I was at was in the 90s when Dubs beat Kildare. 20 something years on and that's still the case today. All that bitterness means you're missing out on some great days out. You should join the bandwagon. Sure Kildare is the greater Dublin area at this stage. Even a staunch Mayo man like FTB has joined Team Dublin.

Im not a bit bitter.  Not costing me a cent. No 800k+ round trips. More time on my hands. Much more relaxing.

You come across as a bit of a snowflake when anyone mentions Dublin.  Making up that I was slagging off Jack McCaffrey. Man up a small bit.
Why would you slag off a lad who does what he does working in a hospital? Now of all times. The mind boggles sometimes.

There's a marvellous invention called google maps or if you're weak with technology I'm sure there are still road maps for sale. If travelling to matches round trip takes you 800k+ No wonder you've so much more spare time.

Somehow I think your mind might be boggling the whole time.

Yea I know its hard for you to figure how people can travel more than 10 or 15 mins to a game. I see geography is not your strong point. Ask your teachef how big Ireland is.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 10:01:54 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

I wouldn't be getting worked up about that person.  Says hasn't been to a game since 2013 but logs into website to have a rant about Dublin. Obviously has a couple personal issues if has a horn for the dubs. What county is that poster from? Back to topic McCaffrey is a credit to his club and county. Best luck in his retirement.

That person has a name. I haven't been to an intercounty game since 2013. I regularly attend club games. But its kinda nice to have my own stalker.

Still bitter over Seanie? Time to get over it.

Good to know you haven't been to inter county games in the last few years. That way there's no chance I could have been unfortunate and unlucky enough to have met you. If anyone's bitter it's yourself based on your opinion of the dubs and/or McCaffrey
 

Yea I haven't been since 2013 so there is a good chance we never crossed paths. Since you only started following the game around then.

1st inter county game I was at was in the 90s when Dubs beat Kildare. 20 something years on and that's still the case today. All that bitterness means you're missing out on some great days out. You should join the bandwagon. Sure Kildare is the greater Dublin area at this stage. Even a staunch Mayo man like FTB has joined Team Dublin.

Im not a bit bitter.  Not costing me a cent. No 800k+ round trips. More time on my hands. Much more relaxing.

You come across as a bit of a snowflake when anyone mentions Dublin.  Making up that I was slagging off Jack McCaffrey. Man up a small bit.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 09:31:07 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

I wouldn't be getting worked up about that person.  Says hasn't been to a game since 2013 but logs into website to have a rant about Dublin. Obviously has a couple personal issues if has a horn for the dubs. What county is that poster from? Back to topic McCaffrey is a credit to his club and county. Best luck in his retirement.

That person has a name. I haven't been to an intercounty game since 2013. I regularly attend club games. But its kinda nice to have my own stalker.

Still bitter over Seanie? Time to get over it.

Good to know you haven't been to inter county games in the last few years. That way there's no chance I could have been unfortunate and unlucky enough to have met you. If anyone's bitter it's yourself based on your opinion of the dubs and/or McCaffrey
 

Yea I haven't been since 2013 so there is a good chance we never crossed paths. Since you only started following the game around then.

It's a growing trend, not going to Inter-county matches. The GAA had to invent the Super 8 to make up the shortfall in revenue.

Im getting my buzz from the club game now. More honest.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 08:28:20 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

I wouldn't be getting worked up about that person.  Says hasn't been to a game since 2013 but logs into website to have a rant about Dublin. Obviously has a couple personal issues if has a horn for the dubs. What county is that poster from? Back to topic McCaffrey is a credit to his club and county. Best luck in his retirement.

That person has a name. I haven't been to an intercounty game since 2013. I regularly attend club games. But its kinda nice to have my own stalker.

Still bitter over Seanie? Time to get over it.

Good to know you haven't been to inter county games in the last few years. That way there's no chance I could have been unfortunate and unlucky enough to have met you. If anyone's bitter it's yourself based on your opinion of the dubs and/or McCaffrey
 

Yea I haven't been since 2013 so there is a good chance we never crossed paths. Since you only started following the game around then.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 08:26:04 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

I wouldn't be getting worked up about that person.  Says hasn't been to a game since 2013 but logs into website to have a rant about Dublin. Obviously has a couple personal issues if has a horn for the dubs. What county is that poster from? Back to topic McCaffrey is a credit to his club and county. Best luck in his retirement.

That person has a name. I haven't been to an intercounty game since 2013. I regularly attend club games. But its kinda nice to have my own stalker.

Still bitter over Seanie? Time to get over it.

Oh your from Kildare.  Bringing Seanie on to kick a 21 free when hammering us.  Just embarrassing. I never forget the abuse we got from minority of Kildare support.  Seanie got a nice lump sum of it.

Can't disagree with you, it was embarrassing. The whole episode was. It was something I was never comfortable with.

Having said all that my initial post was never intended to be a slight on Jack McCaffrey. I don't know the chap at all.

And no I don't have a horn for the Dubs as you stated. But I'm entitled to voice my opinion on the state of gaelic football at the moment. All brought on by the Gaa themselves. As a member of the association it concerns me greatly.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 07:53:06 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

I wouldn't be getting worked up about that person.  Says hasn't been to a game since 2013 but logs into website to have a rant about Dublin. Obviously has a couple personal issues if has a horn for the dubs. What county is that poster from? Back to topic McCaffrey is a credit to his club and county. Best luck in his retirement.

That person has a name. I haven't been to an intercounty game since 2013. I regularly attend club games. But its kinda nice to have my own stalker.

Still bitter over Seanie? Time to get over it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 07:35:21 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html

More ignorance regarding the dubs and Jack McCaffrey in particular.

Listen to his podcast with Bernard Brogan and the stress/pressure became too much for him, he wasn't enjoying football anymore and he had to walk away. Doesn't sound like a lad on coming back next year.

Can't be easy dealing with Covid in hospital on a daily basis. Hopefully he does play again as he's a joy to watch football pitch

You'd want to relax a small bit. It was meant tongue in cheek.

But you continue with the paranoia.  ::)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: December 09, 2020, 04:51:46 PM »
Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Even Jack McCarrfey is bored of it.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40187469.html


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GAA Discussion / Re: The Patronising Dublin Fan Thread
« on: December 08, 2020, 10:24:45 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-how-stiff-will-mayo-test-be-for-omnipotent-dublin-1.4429796

Because this is not a once-in-a-generation Dublin team. That illusion has been shattered. From 2011 there were only three starters on Saturday evening and from the 2015 All-Ireland final team, only six starters remain. That gives you a sense of how
How many Kilkenny players started both the 2000 and 2009 All-Ireland hurling finals?

Google it. But your point is meaningless.

Kilkenny don't go banging on about a once in a lifetime team. Dubs do.
If it's meaningless as regards Kilkenny, it's meaningless as regards Dublin

You just ignored the second part of my post. You dubs keep saying this is a once in a lifetime team and we should enjoy them. It's not a once in a lifetime team. That's why the Kilkenny analogy is meaningless. No Kilkenny person made that argument at the time.

As a matter of interest why didn't you pick the Kerry teams of 1978 and 1986?

The point was made that this is not a generational Dublin team and that this is different to anything to went before in the GAA

But it isn't different, because Kilkenny did the same thing - they had two players who started both the 2000 and 2009 finals

So the point is wrong

And no bleating or attempt to change the subject will change that

The point is wrong

I'm probably wasting my time here but sure I'll try to help you understand.

The sane amongst us have argued that Gaa money has aided Dublin during their current purple patch. Dubs have argued that it is a once in a generation side. It's not a once in a generation side. Nor was the Kilkenny one you mentioned.

HOWEVER Kilkenny did not receive millions to help them during this time. So it is different.
You're still not getting it

Dublin's dominance is far from unique in history

There's no evidence that Dublin's dominance will be any different to Kilkenny's from 2000 to 2015

Dublin's training facilities are in fact quite rudimentary compared to other counties, Dublin players have to work, Dublin players do not get paid, they are totally amateur athletes

Funding does not make you work harder, it does not make you fitter, it does not improve your weaker foot, and the simple fact is Dublin's players work far harder than players in all but a small handful of counties

Winners worry about winning, losers worry about winners

So Dublins dominance has nothing to do with money?

Its because they train harder, work harder and their volunteers volunteer harder. And the fact that they got millions prior to this dominance is merely coincidence.

Sound.  ::)
Again, you've not addressed the points

You came into the argument because you were supporting a wrong assertion

Now you've moved on to not addressing points

Dublin do work harder, and smarter, than all but a small handful of counties

Do they or do they not?

Of course they do - sure the central premise of the anti-Dublin posters here is that everybody else should just give up

How does that tally with a hard work ethic?

You think I'm not addressing the point. You refuse to believe that the millions received have nothing to do with Dublins success. I'm actually agreeing with you regarding Kilkenny but there is one big difference. Money. I cant help you if you can't see that

You are saying Dublin work harder. How do you know that? Do you know how hard Cork or Kerry or Donegal work?

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