HOW WOULD YOU VOTE IN A BORDER POLL?

[WeeDonns]

How many "career welfare" people vote?

local politicians are fighting their corner at every turn, which makes me think quite a lot of them ?
A quick google of a former local independent councillor on our council who was well known as the man to speak to regarding welfare, shows he ran a "Consultants & Advice Agency". So basically he charged them a fee plus the promise of a vote in return for filling in their forms (& making sure they were accepted )

I'm all for social welfare BTW, if people need it, they should get it in a decent society BUT there are some amount of assholes ripping the piss.
Especially the social welfare recipients who tell you they're "Farmers" 

[Saffrongael]

How many "career welfare" people vote?

Shitloads

[general_lee]

Some people rip the piss with the DLA cars. You get c***ts running about in brand new motors cos their young one has some mild form of autism or some such, while people with arthritis in absolute agony are told they're entitled to nothing and fit to work!

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Some people rip the piss with the DLA cars. You get c***ts running about in brand new motors cos their young one has some mild form of autism or some such, while people with arthritis in absolute agony are told they're entitled to nothing and fit to work!

Mind the time Alex Maskey turned up to Stormont in his DLA car.

[Evil Genius]

Moderate unionism represents about 5% of unionism.

Does that mean you think only 5% of Unionists are "moderate", which most people would take to mean reasonable, open to compromise, willing to see the other side etc?

If so, what percentage would you ascribe to nationalism?

I know you're around, Angelo, so any chance of a reply?

(Thanks in advance)

[Milltown Row2]

Moderate unionism represents about 5% of unionism.

Does that mean you think only 5% of Unionists are "moderate", which most people would take to mean reasonable, open to compromise, willing to see the other side etc?

If so, what percentage would you ascribe to nationalism?

I know you're around, Angelo, so any chance of a reply?

(Thanks in advance)

Will only answer when he has an answer, generally allows the page to disappear and then come back with another post

[Angelo]

Moderate unionism represents about 5% of unionism.

Does that mean you think only 5% of Unionists are "moderate", which most people would take to mean reasonable, open to compromise, willing to see the other side etc?

If so, what percentage would you ascribe to nationalism?

I know you're around, Angelo, so any chance of a reply?

(Thanks in advance)

90% of nationalists are moderate.

[Evil Genius]

Moderate unionism represents about 5% of unionism.

Does that mean you think only 5% of Unionists are "moderate", which most people would take to mean reasonable, open to compromise, willing to see the other side etc?

If so, what percentage would you ascribe to nationalism?

I know you're around, Angelo, so any chance of a reply?

(Thanks in advance)

90% of nationalists are moderate.

Righto so.

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

[Angelo]

Moderate unionism represents about 5% of unionism.

Does that mean you think only 5% of Unionists are "moderate", which most people would take to mean reasonable, open to compromise, willing to see the other side etc?

If so, what percentage would you ascribe to nationalism?

I know you're around, Angelo, so any chance of a reply?

(Thanks in advance)

90% of nationalists are moderate.

Righto so.

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

Nope.

I think you're deluded if you think otherwise. Look at the political commentary of the largest unionist parties. When bigoted dinosaurs like Poots, Campbell, Wilson, Tom Elliot and Rosemary Barton are what you offer us then I can take we can say quite fairly that those figures are accurate.

Trying to equate both sides are as bad as each other is palpable nonsense, look at the 12th of July every year if you want to encapsulate unionism. Vocal and triumphant bigotry.

[general_lee]

Some people rip the piss with the DLA cars. You get c***ts running about in brand new motors cos their young one has some mild form of autism or some such, while people with arthritis in absolute agony are told they're entitled to nothing and fit to work!

Mind the time Alex Maskey turned up to Stormont in his DLA car.

I do indeed. A **** move.

[armaghniac]

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

Nationalism is intrinsically moderate, as all it wants is a normal democratic country.
Unionism is the opposite of moderate, it wants to extend colonialism, when it couldn't win by force in most of the Ireland, it seized part of the country as a sectarian statelet.

Unionist political parties offer no moderation and many people from a PUL background are drifting to Alliance as a consequence.

[Evil Genius]

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

Nationalism is intrinsically moderate, as all it wants is a normal democratic country.
Unionism is the opposite of moderate, it wants to extend colonialism, when it couldn't win by force in most of the Ireland, it seized part of the country as a sectarian statelet.

Unionist political parties offer no moderation and many people from a PUL background are drifting to Alliance as a consequence.

Ah right, so "Themmuns" it is, then.

Glad we got that sorted.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mon_restaurant_bombing

[armaghniac]

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

Nationalism is intrinsically moderate, as all it wants is a normal democratic country.
Unionism is the opposite of moderate, it wants to extend colonialism, when it couldn't win by force in most of the Ireland, it seized part of the country as a sectarian statelet.

Unionist political parties offer no moderation and many people from a PUL background are drifting to Alliance as a consequence.

Ah right, so "Themmuns" it is, then.

Glad we got that sorted.

If I said something that was not correct, then I'm sure you can refute it. I did not refer to "Themmuns" ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mon_restaurant_bombing

I said that nationalism was intrinsicially moderate, I did not say that all those who purported to be nationalists were moderate. RTÉ have been replaying the Reeling in the Years and I noted La Mon, one of the most disgraceful events in Irish history was in that year.
The difference being that 90%+ of nationalists do not justify La Mon.

[Evil Genius]

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

Nationalism is intrinsically moderate, as all it wants is a normal democratic country.
Unionism is the opposite of moderate, it wants to extend colonialism, when it couldn't win by force in most of the Ireland, it seized part of the country as a sectarian statelet.

Unionist political parties offer no moderation and many people from a PUL background are drifting to Alliance as a consequence.

Ah right, so "Themmuns" it is, then.

Glad we got that sorted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mon_restaurant_bombing


I said that nationalism was intrinsicially moderate, I did not say that all those who purported to be nationalists were moderate. RTÉ have been replaying the Reeling in the Years and I noted La Mon, one of the most disgraceful events in Irish history was in that year.
The difference being that 90%+ of nationalists do not justify La Mon.

If I said something that was not correct, then I'm sure you can refute it. I did not refer to "Themmuns" ,

Yet the large majority of Nationalists in NI vote for the party which is inextricably linked with the organisation which carried out La Mon.

And the Enniskillen bombing.

And the nakedly sectarian massacres at Tullyvallen, Darkley and Kingsmill.

And the abduction, torture, murder and disappearing of Jean McConville.

And Patsy Gillespie.

And a thousand other atrocities.

None of which justifies or condones one iota the myriad atrocities committed by their (so-called) "Loyalist" counterparts, but come on, surely you haven't forgotten what the IRA and INLA etc did in the name of Nationalism?

I mean, at a time when SF are falling over themselves to be seen "honouring" mass murderers like Bobby Storey?

I guess "moderate" means something different where you come from.

[Armagh18]

90% of Nationalists are moderate, but only 5% of Unionists.

Such a mindset would be laughable, were it not reflective of the whole problem.

You know, "The Politics of Themmuns", exhibit No.1 'Angelo' 

Nationalism is intrinsically moderate, as all it wants is a normal democratic country.
Unionism is the opposite of moderate, it wants to extend colonialism, when it couldn't win by force in most of the Ireland, it seized part of the country as a sectarian statelet.

Unionist political parties offer no moderation and many people from a PUL background are drifting to Alliance as a consequence.

Ah right, so "Themmuns" it is, then.

Glad we got that sorted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mon_restaurant_bombing


I said that nationalism was intrinsicially moderate, I did not say that all those who purported to be nationalists were moderate. RTÉ have been replaying the Reeling in the Years and I noted La Mon, one of the most disgraceful events in Irish history was in that year.
The difference being that 90%+ of nationalists do not justify La Mon.

If I said something that was not correct, then I'm sure you can refute it. I did not refer to "Themmuns" ,

Yet the large majority of Nationalists in NI vote for the party which is inextricably linked with the organisation which carried out La Mon.

And the Enniskillen bombing.

And the nakedly sectarian massacres at Tullyvallen, Darkley and Kingsmill.

And the abduction, torture, murder and disappearing of Jean McConville.

And Patsy Gillespie.

And a thousand other atrocities.

None of which justifies or condones one iota the myriad atrocities committed by their (so-called) "Loyalist" counterparts, but come on, surely you haven't forgotten what the IRA and INLA etc did in the name of Nationalism?

I mean, at a time when SF are falling over themselves to be seen "honouring" mass murderers like Bobby Storey?

I guess "moderate" means something different where you come from.

Great. Another Jamie Bryson.