Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

[Milltown Row2]

All of them are rushed?

I know that's why I used comparatively and it never had the efficacy percentages from get go either when you look at others . I choose not to get it, I'm not an anti vaxxer, not mad but I think if you phoned me tomorrow and offered Pfizer I'd probably take it

If the choice is between Pfizer and AZ, then that might be a reasonable response.

But when the choice is between AZ and no vaccine? (Or at least, no vaccine for another 6 months?)

6 months? Some of our chemical engineers will tell you 10 years

[sid waddell]

Are the odds the same?

Yeah close enough I think , it's the rationale now being used by some countries for not giving it to younger people. There is as much chance of dying of COVID as there is of getting clots from vacinne. But I'm not sure what is classed as "young"

2.88 million have died worldwide from Covid

It's estimated that 21% of Covid patients develop venous thromboembolism

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/clot-risk-from-covid-19-linked-to-increased-mortality/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/facts.html

If you don't want clotting, don't get Covid

If you don't want Covid, get the vaccine

[Armagh18]

Are the odds the same?

Yeah close enough I think , it's the rationale now being used by some countries for not giving it to younger people. There is as much chance of dying of COVID as there is of getting clots from vacinne. But I'm not sure what is classed as "young"

2.88 million have died worldwide from Covid

It's estimated that 21% of Covid patients develop venous thromboembolism

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/clot-risk-from-covid-19-linked-to-increased-mortality/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/facts.html

If you don't want clotting, don't get Covid

If you don't want Covid, get the vaccine

*with Covid.

[sid waddell]

Are the odds the same?

Yeah close enough I think , it's the rationale now being used by some countries for not giving it to younger people. There is as much chance of dying of COVID as there is of getting clots from vacinne. But I'm not sure what is classed as "young"

2.88 million have died worldwide from Covid

It's estimated that 21% of Covid patients develop venous thromboembolism

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/clot-risk-from-covid-19-linked-to-increased-mortality/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/facts.html

If you don't want clotting, don't get Covid

If you don't want Covid, get the vaccine

*with Covid.

As I predicted last Autumn, the loonies now claim you die with Covid, but from the vaccine

My father, for instance, is one of those they claim died with it, not from it

Believe me, he died from it

2.88 million is a significant undercounting by the way

The UK for instance massively undercounts Covid deaths, leaving out anybody who dies after a 28 day cut off

[sid waddell]

Of course none of these dubious claims about vaccines extend to the Russian or Chinese vaccines

Funny that

[sid waddell]

I somehow doubt the people who have developed a new found interest in mental health will care much about this

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brain-idUSKBN2BT2ZI?taid=606ce6ddc8c94b0001857a05&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

A third of COVID survivors suffer neurological or mental disorders: study
By Kate Kelland

3 MIN READ


LONDON (Reuters) - One in three COVID-19 survivors in a study of more than 230,000 mostly American patients were diagnosed with a brain or psychiatric disorder within six months, suggesting the pandemic could lead to a wave of mental and neurological problems, scientists said on Tuesday.

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And I suspect they also won't care much for this:

https://www.vox.com/2021/4/6/22368210/suicides-covid-19-coronavirus-lockdown-2020

Last year, as then-President Donald Trump railed against Covid-19 lockdowns and called on states to reopen their economies, he claimed the shutdowns would lead to a spike in suicides: "You're going to lose more people by putting a country into a massive recession or depression. You're going to lose people. You're going to have suicides by the thousands."

But new data suggests that the number of suicides actually decreased in the US last year. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, suicides totaled fewer than 45,000 in 2020, down from about 47,500 in 2019 and more than 48,000 in 2018.

So far, this seems to be true globally. England saw no increase in suicides in the aftermath of lockdowns, Louis Appleby, a researcher on suicide and self-harm at the University of Manchester, wrote for the medical journal BMJ. The same seems to be true in other nations, including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, and Sweden, based on data for the first few months of lockdowns around the globe.

[Armagh18]

Are the odds the same?

Yeah close enough I think , it's the rationale now being used by some countries for not giving it to younger people. There is as much chance of dying of COVID as there is of getting clots from vacinne. But I'm not sure what is classed as "young"

2.88 million have died worldwide from Covid

It's estimated that 21% of Covid patients develop venous thromboembolism

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/clot-risk-from-covid-19-linked-to-increased-mortality/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/facts.html

If you don't want clotting, don't get Covid

If you don't want Covid, get the vaccine

*with Covid.

As I predicted last Autumn, the loonies now claim you die with Covid, but from the vaccine

My father, for instance, is one of those they claim died with it, not from it

Believe me, he died from it

2.88 million is a significant undercounting by the way

The UK for instance massively undercounts Covid deaths, leaving out anybody who dies after a 28 day cut off

Where did I mention a vaccine?

[Angelo]

As I predicted last Autumn, the loonies now claim you die with Covid, but from the vaccine

You'll find it's the loonies that actually say the opposite.

When it's the vaccine the narrative is people were old or frail as we saw in Norway earlier this year when 17 deaths in the elderly were reported linked to the vaccine.

When it's the vaccine it's that these are rare and odd occurrences of blood clotting. These deaths and blood clot occurences are happening in people who are not in the at risk categories. The medical experts you love to cite are beginning to slowly admit that the AZ vaccine does in fact cause blood clotting which has led to serious cases and deaths.

Now I know you are at pains to spin and throw mud as usual as you are the biggest proponent of misinformation out there but there are concerns with this virus and it's backed up by more and more medical bodies limiting use or halting the AZ vaccine.

People who are not at risk should weigh up the pros and cons of the vaccine for them and doing so does not make you anti-vax as your campaign of misinformation and misrepresentation dictates. To do so does not mean you are anti-vax, a person like who is fundamentally fascist like you believes it is acceptable in a democracy to force your views and outlooks on people and that is becoming evermore dangerous for society as a whole.

[sid waddell]

Are the odds the same?

Yeah close enough I think , it's the rationale now being used by some countries for not giving it to younger people. There is as much chance of dying of COVID as there is of getting clots from vacinne. But I'm not sure what is classed as "young"

2.88 million have died worldwide from Covid

It's estimated that 21% of Covid patients develop venous thromboembolism

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/clot-risk-from-covid-19-linked-to-increased-mortality/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/facts.html

If you don't want clotting, don't get Covid

If you don't want Covid, get the vaccine

*with Covid.

As I predicted last Autumn, the loonies now claim you die with Covid, but from the vaccine

My father, for instance, is one of those they claim died with it, not from it

Believe me, he died from it

2.88 million is a significant undercounting by the way

The UK for instance massively undercounts Covid deaths, leaving out anybody who dies after a 28 day cut off

Where did I mention a vaccine?

When have you ever made a post that was remotely worth engaging with?

[Armagh18]

Are the odds the same?

Yeah close enough I think , it's the rationale now being used by some countries for not giving it to younger people. There is as much chance of dying of COVID as there is of getting clots from vacinne. But I'm not sure what is classed as "young"

2.88 million have died worldwide from Covid

It's estimated that 21% of Covid patients develop venous thromboembolism

https://b-s-h.org.uk/about-us/news/clot-risk-from-covid-19-linked-to-increased-mortality/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/facts.html

If you don't want clotting, don't get Covid

If you don't want Covid, get the vaccine

*with Covid.

As I predicted last Autumn, the loonies now claim you die with Covid, but from the vaccine

My father, for instance, is one of those they claim died with it, not from it

Believe me, he died from it

2.88 million is a significant undercounting by the way

The UK for instance massively undercounts Covid deaths, leaving out anybody who dies after a 28 day cut off

Where did I mention a vaccine?

When have you ever made a post that was remotely worth engaging with?

You seem to keep doing it...

[Evil Genius]

'Keep getting Oxford jab', says sister of man who died with blood clot

Pharmacist Alison Astles, whose brother Neil died on Sunday after developing a blood clot following his first dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, said she "strongly believed" people should continue to have the jab.

She said her brother, who was 59, had the jab on 17 March and, after a week or so, began to have headaches and nausea.

She says he was taken to the emergency department on Friday night where doctors found a "huge blood clot" and he died on Sunday.

She was told by clinicians they were 99.9% sure the clot was due to the vaccine.

Speaking to the BBC News Channel, she said: "The human being, the sister in me, still feels absolutely furious and very angry that this has happened to my brother."

But she continued: "Despite what has happened to Neil and the impact on our family, I still strongly believe that people should go ahead and have the vaccine.

"If you've had one dose, go ahead and have your second.

"If you haven't had your dose yet make sure that you do.

"Because, overall, we will save more lives by people having the vaccine than not.

"The risk of a clot is very, very small and my brother was extraordinarily unlucky."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56672556

[Eamonnca1]

Your odds with the vaccine are better than your odds with Covid.

[Armagh18]

Getting close to 1 million doses given out in the north now. Serious work.

[GetOverTheBar]

Getting close to 1 million doses given out in the north now. Serious work.

They fail at pretty much everything else. But they have nailed the vaccine roll out.

No doubt the person responsible and their team we probably don't even know their names. But we should, instead of these other clowns

[lenny]

Getting close to 1 million doses given out in the north now. Serious work.

They fail at pretty much everything else. But they have nailed the vaccine roll out.

No doubt the person responsible and their team we probably don't even know their names. But we should, instead of these other clowns

Nothing to do with the politicians, it's the NHS who're responsible for the vaccine success. They had the infrastructure in place from the annual jab and just had to build on that.