Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

[Louther]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40254977.html

Process seems as clear as mud! It didn't say in that piece that CPL are handling the recruitment and that there interpretation may have differed and is now been clarified by the HSE.

Why this can't be done by HSE is beyond me using their staff network, public health and GP resources.

The plan is to have 30 centres operating at minimum with 12 hour days, 7 days a week. 3,290 staff won't cut it.

[Angelo]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40254977.html

Process seems as clear as mud! It didn't say in that piece that CPL are handling the recruitment and that there interpretation may have differed and is now been clarified by the HSE.

Why this can't be done by HSE is beyond me using their staff network, public health and GP resources.

The plan is to have 30 centres operating at minimum with 12 hour days, 7 days a week. 3,290 staff won't cut it.

Worth pointing out that CPL is the company of FG TD Jennifer Carroll McNeill's family.

They were awarded a big contract at the start of the pandemic without tender.

[Louther]

CPL are a massive company/employer and have many contracts with HSE going back 20plus years.

They have the resources and people to do this but it seems the criteria hasn't been made clear. I just don't know why it's been outsourced - agency hiring HSE staff to do HSE work.

The TD connection is loose, CPL been operating for 20+ years in terms of agency staff for HSE and many others. It's actually been sold by the TDs uncle to a multi national in the last year. .

[Angelo]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

[LeoMc]

Does anyone know if the location you receive the jab determines the vaccine you receive?
Are they giving the Pfizer one at the centres and AZ at the pharmacies?

[Angelo]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

[Louther]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

You absolute numpty! Her brother (does she have a brother) isn't Paul Carroll of CPL, that's her uncle. Who has been doing HSE contracts for years.

And I know where you got that story from - Gript and John McGuirk. The right wing media website in Ireland who drive this type of nonsense and misinformation.

So the so called socialist and republican gets his information from gript! Absolute spoofer.

[TabClear]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

[J70]

It's just out, and not a mandatory thing yet. Actually Excelsior Pass, not Empire.

Here's one story on it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/03/27/new-york-just-launched-a-digital-vaccine-pass-to-restart-concerts-sports-events-and-other-activities/amp/

So If i book tickets to go to New York in October, we should be ok?

We'll have both been (at that point) both jabs

Ok in terms of having to get this vaccine passport?

From what I've heard, its not going to be mandatory in terms of the state or city government saying you have to get it (the vaccine OR the passport).

Whether or not you'll need it to get into a Broadway show or a Knicks game or a museum is a different matter.

[Angelo]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

They owned a 34% shareholding between them and were directors in the company from an article I looked at there.

I think we can all agree though that a FG govt with a FG minister for health awarding a multi-million untendered contract to recruit workers on zero hour contracts to a company with close family ties to a FG TD (being the largest shareholders) in the middle of a pandemic has a very bad look to it.

[J70]

It's just out, and not a mandatory thing yet. Actually Excelsior Pass, not Empire.

Here's one story on it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/03/27/new-york-just-launched-a-digital-vaccine-pass-to-restart-concerts-sports-events-and-other-activities/amp/

for the us posters in particular the lifting of mask mandate and a fully open economy in Texas and Mississippi seem to have had no bearing on cases . Is it vaccination or are the masks overrated.

Let's not celebrate just yet.

The mask mandate was only lifted a few weeks ago. And what was the rate of mask wearing in those places in the first place? Are those people huddled together in indoor spaces for any lengths of time?

Why would you think that masks are overrated?

No one has said they're the panacaea. They're one element, along with the social distancing, hand hygiene, testing, vaccines and the rest. Their purpose is to limit the amount of virus a potentially infected person will exhale. They're not respirators, so the protection offered in terms of inhalation is limited.

who's celebrating? It's a bit of good news for a change, a lot on here would be happy if it was going badly there . I never said they didn't work .

Fair enough.

Numbers rising in a fair other few states at the moment.

And the CDC are not sounding too optimistic about avoiding a fourth wave. Hopefully the vaccines (and apparently, in another bit of good news, vaccine hesitancy is decreasing) nip it in the bud.

[Louther]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

They owned a 34% shareholding between them and were directors in the company from an article I looked at there.

I think we can all agree though that a FG govt with a FG minister for health awarding a multi-million untendered contract to recruit workers on zero hour contracts to a company with close family ties to a FG TD (being the largest shareholders) in the middle of a pandemic has a very bad look to it.

Is that another gript article? Spoofer. Have you decided if it's her uncle or brother?

[TabClear]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

They owned a 34% shareholding between them and were directors in the company from an article I looked at there.

I think we can all agree though that a FG govt with a FG minister for health awarding a multi-million untendered contract to recruit workers on zero hour contracts to a company with close family ties to a FG TD (being the largest shareholders) in the middle of a pandemic has a very bad look to it.

Lack of tendering is not great in these situations but CPL had obviously done work for HSE for many years so clearly had some sort of a framework contract. I am guessing there was a time pressure on this and for expediency they may have been awarded this under benchmarked rates etc. Ideally you test the market but sometimes that is not possible

[Angelo]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

They owned a 34% shareholding between them and were directors in the company from an article I looked at there.

I think we can all agree though that a FG govt with a FG minister for health awarding a multi-million untendered contract to recruit workers on zero hour contracts to a company with close family ties to a FG TD (being the largest shareholders) in the middle of a pandemic has a very bad look to it.

Is that another gript article? Spoofer. Have you decided if it's her uncle or brother?

No. It's an Irish Times article.

And you're triggered, pet.

[Angelo]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

They owned a 34% shareholding between them and were directors in the company from an article I looked at there.

I think we can all agree though that a FG govt with a FG minister for health awarding a multi-million untendered contract to recruit workers on zero hour contracts to a company with close family ties to a FG TD (being the largest shareholders) in the middle of a pandemic has a very bad look to it.

Lack of tendering is not great in these situations but CPL had obviously done work for HSE for many years so clearly had some sort of a framework contract. I am guessing there was a time pressure on this and for expediency they may have been awarded this under benchmarked rates etc. Ideally you test the market but sometimes that is not possible

The optics of it are very bad.

Paying a private company with family links to a party member millions for contracts that exploit workers in a vital public sector that is understaffed is not a good look.

It's the FFG way, throw public services and resources over to the private sector and enrich the chosen few.