Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Started by Angelo, October 22, 2020, 10:36:07 AM

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Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Yes
122 (71.8%)
No
48 (28.2%)

Total Members Voted: 170

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on March 19, 2021, 07:42:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2021, 10:34:57 PM
Was it down to the vaccine?

Looks to be the most likely factor.

Unless you're a coincidence theorist.

Is that right? The most likely factor? hmmm that sounds a bit odd

Is it seasonal also?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Angelo

Blood clotting death in Sweden too after the AZ vaccine


Vaccine still suspended in both countries as they investigate further.

"We obtained results that could explain the clinical evolution of our hospitalised patients," said Paal Andre Holme, a director of the national hospital in Oslo.

"These results support our theory... that these patients had a strong immune response which led to the formation of antibodies that could affect the (blood) platelets and lead to a thrombus" or blood clot, he added.

Asked if the death was caused by the vaccine, he replied: "I don't see any other possibility at this point," while emphasising that it was still a question of "indicators".
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Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2021, 07:57:10 AM
Will they stop birth control pill also?

If there are cases of fit and healthy people dying as a result of them then they should.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on March 19, 2021, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2021, 07:57:10 AM
Will they stop birth control pill also?

If there are cases of fit and healthy people dying as a result of them then they should.

Been happening for years, young fit healthy women having clots in the brain for many years and its still in production..

Paracetamol:
you get a skin rash that may include itchy, red, swollen, blistered or peeling skin.
you're wheezing.
you get tightness in the chest or throat.
you have trouble breathing or talking.
your mouth, face, lips, tongue or throat start swelling.

Calcium tablets:
Calcium supplements may increase the incidence of constipation, severe diarrhea, and abdominal pain. 1,62 It highlights that calcium carbonate is more often associated with gastrointestinal side effects, including constipation, flatulence, and bloating.

All medications have issues with them. Thankfully they do more good than harm.

But the tin-hat brigade are out in force,  17 million vaccine jabs given out in Europe already,  you have these cases which may or may not have had a reaction to it, has been given the green light by the EMA that this is good to go..

You said the majority of countries in Europe stopped using them, that was a wee fib, how many have stopped now?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2021, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: Angelo on March 19, 2021, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2021, 07:57:10 AM
Will they stop birth control pill also?

If there are cases of fit and healthy people dying as a result of them then they should.

Been happening for years, young fit healthy women having clots in the brain for many years and its still in production..

Paracetamol:
you get a skin rash that may include itchy, red, swollen, blistered or peeling skin.
you're wheezing.
you get tightness in the chest or throat.
you have trouble breathing or talking.
your mouth, face, lips, tongue or throat start swelling.

Calcium tablets:
Calcium supplements may increase the incidence of constipation, severe diarrhea, and abdominal pain. 1,62 It highlights that calcium carbonate is more often associated with gastrointestinal side effects, including constipation, flatulence, and bloating.

All medications have issues with them. Thankfully they do more good than harm.

But the tin-hat brigade are out in force,  17 million vaccine jabs given out in Europe already,  you have these cases which may or may not have had a reaction to it, has been given the green light by the EMA that this is good to go..

You said the majority of countries in Europe stopped using them, that was a wee fib, how many have stopped now?

You're the one telling fibs here. Most countries who had approved AZ had paused or halted their vaccine programme for a number of days in light of this.

I named 17 of them. You seem to be under the illusion that every European country has approved the AZ vaccine which is not true.

So maybe get your facts right next time.
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Angelo



That does not include all the countries who suspended the vaccine in Europe. Cyprus, Sweden, Portugal and Slovenia also suspended it too.

Neither does it include European countries yet to approve AZ such as Switzerland
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Angelo

Another case now of a 27 year old Georgian nurse in critical condition after her AZ vaccine.

https://agenda.ge/en/news/2021/729
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dublin7

Germany, France, Italy and Spain are some of the countries who have announed they are re-starting the use of Astra Zenica vaccines.


Emer Cooke, head of the European Medicines Agency, on Thursday said its investigation had concluded that the AstraZeneca vaccine was "not associated" with a potential risk of blood clots noted recently by some scientists, adding that the benefits of the shot outweighed possible risks.


The lunatic fringe will no doubt claim that she/EMA have been bought off by big pharma or some other conspiracy nonsense, but hopefully the Irish government will announce today they are re-starting the issuing of these vaccines as well



https://www.ft.com/content/c83944d5-ad26-415f-bf34-1eba428beeb9

Louther

Are you going to put up all the healthy people round Europe who have been hospitalised with covid without taking an vaccine as a comparison?

Angelo

Quote from: dublin7 on March 19, 2021, 11:32:32 AM
Germany, France, Italy and Spain are some of the countries who have announed they are re-starting the use of Astra Zenica vaccines.


Emer Cooke, head of the European Medicines Agency, on Thursday said its investigation had concluded that the AstraZeneca vaccine was "not associated" with a potential risk of blood clots noted recently by some scientists, adding that the benefits of the shot outweighed possible risks.


The lunatic fringe will no doubt claim that she/EMA have been bought off by big pharma or some other conspiracy nonsense, but hopefully the Irish government will announce today they are re-starting the issuing of these vaccines as well



https://www.ft.com/content/c83944d5-ad26-415f-bf34-1eba428beeb9

Hmmmm.

Are the lunatic fringe the coincidence theorists that believe vaccines have absolutely no correlation with a growing number of serious illness or death in young people shortly after they are vaccinated?

The EMA were dismissing this as soon as it was announced. The medical experts in Norway seem to disagree with them. They must be part of a lunatic fringe.
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trailer

Anyone who doesn't want the vaccine should move to the ROI. It'll be rolling lockdowns for the rest of the year. Their vaccination program along with the rest of Europe it has to be said is a disgrace. No vaccine = lockdown for you poor chaps.

armaghniac

Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 11:49:13 AM
Anyone who doesn't want the vaccine should move to the ROI. It'll be rolling lockdowns for the rest of the year. Their vaccination program along with the rest of Europe it has to be said is a disgrace. No vaccine = lockdown for you poor chaps.

It is accelerating all the time though and everyone will be done by August. Pfizer have greatly increased their production and they have proved capable of delivering, both in Europe and the USA. Moderna are delivering twice as much also, and J&J are starting. Once you are in June Curevac will come on board. I haven't mentioned AZ but even they should manage more in Q2 than Q1.

It is a pity not to get done before the holiday season though.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

JoG2

Quote from: Louther on March 19, 2021, 11:33:14 AM
Are you going to put up all the healthy people round Europe who have been hospitalised with covid without taking an vaccine as a comparison?

The anti-vaxers are so far entrenched they will cling to anything to support their viewpoint. The absolute state of some of the recent posts. Rightly scorned now as I'm sure the modern anti-vaxers once poured scorn on the 'traditional' anti vaxers.

Angelo

Quote from: JoG2 on March 19, 2021, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Louther on March 19, 2021, 11:33:14 AM
Are you going to put up all the healthy people round Europe who have been hospitalised with covid without taking an vaccine as a comparison?

The anti-vaxers are so far entrenched they will cling to anything to support their viewpoint. The absolute state of some of the recent posts. Rightly scorned now as I'm sure the modern anti-vaxers once poured scorn on the 'traditional' anti vaxers.

I'm not anti-vax. Once again you try and misrepresent anyone with a different view to you as a lunatic.

The concerns are real on this, in Norway they have concluded that vaccines were the cause of death of young, fit and healthy people. That's what the head of the Norwegian hospital has concluded.

Now are you going to label the head of a hospital as an anti-vax lunatic because they disagree with your bigoted viewpoint.

People have a right to have concerns on this vaccine and people like you who try to demonise people who express to concerns are an absolute blight on democracy and functional society.

Maybe tell the families and friends on those people that have died in Norway, Sweden and Austria now that they are anti-vaxxers because they have developed concerns as a result of what has happened.

The crass and ignorant arrogance off your post says it all about you.
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