Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

[Taylor]

The conspiracy theorists would suggest that it doesnt seem right that a vaccine could be created so quickly, but from what I believe, there was loads of development/progress already completed on coronavirus vaccines and although COVID-19 was a different variation, the vaccine developers weren't starting from scratch.

In addition the red tape that holds all vaccines up was removed and there was limitless funds which is normally another blocker.

[JoG2]

The conspiracy theorists would suggest that it doesnt seem right that a vaccine could be created so quickly, but from what I believe, there was loads of development/progress already completed on coronavirus vaccines and although COVID-19 was a different variation, the vaccine developers weren't starting from scratch.

Indeed. For years, since Ebola, Sars, Mers, this vaccine template has been developed and tested throughly. Covid-19 spike protein to create this vaccine seems to be the only added ingredient.
These lunatics know all this but it's hard to admit or about turn once down the rabbit hole. Angelo 'science has failed us' silence is deafening.

[imtommygunn]

They don't know all this at all. They've read a few headlines lol.

[Angelo]

What you hear more and more about the vaccine would make you more uneasy about getting.

The controversy on the Oxford vaccine, Pfizer CEO offloading shares once it gets approval and then yesterday people having a severe allergic reaction who were administered it.

[Taylor]

What you hear more and more about the vaccine would make you more uneasy about getting.

The controversy on the Oxford vaccine, Pfizer CEO offloading shares once it gets approval and then yesterday people having a severe allergic reaction who were administered it.

I thought it was only 2 people?

How many have been vaccinated?

Both had allergic reactions prior to the vaccine.

[Angelo]

What you hear more and more about the vaccine would make you more uneasy about getting.

The controversy on the Oxford vaccine, Pfizer CEO offloading shares once it gets approval and then yesterday people having a severe allergic reaction who were administered it.

I thought it was only 2 people?

How many have been vaccinated?

Both had allergic reactions prior to the vaccine.

The fact that we are now being told that anyone liable to allergies should now not get the vaccine would suspect there's more to it than that.

[Angelo]

We also don't know if the vaccine stops people getting infected or merely just quells the impact of being infected.

[J70]

Of course allergic reactions should be investigated, and the advisory to those with histories of allergies to avoid it for now while its looked into are correct.

But brace yourselves for it.

They're rolling out the vaccine first for old people. A lot of those old people are already infirm and sick. Some of them are, with or without the vaccine, going to get sick and/or die. Simple background illness and death, statistically speaking.

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

[armaghniac]

Those with the allergic reaction were health care staff. But it seems probable that perhaps health care staff were not as closely screened as compared to patients whose medical records are on hand.
Allergies can be trigged by the delivery mechanism of the vaccine, as distinct from the core content, so they will probably be able to devise an alternative version of delivery, but this is not a priority at present.

[Angelo]

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

Plenty of agendas out there.

The real agendas seem to be people willing to dismiss any rational concern as being anti-vax. People are right to have worries and concerns regarding this vaccine and it doesn't help that some people want to tar them as cranks when they express them.

In fact, it is brazenly hypocritical.

[J70]

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

Plenty of agendas out there.

The real agendas seem to be people willing to dismiss any rational concern as being anti-vax. People are right to have worries and concerns regarding this vaccine and it doesn't help that some people want to tar them as cranks when they express them.

In fact, it is brazenly hypocritical.

The "real agendas"??

Ok Angelo, whatever gets you through the night.

[Angelo]

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

Plenty of agendas out there.

The real agendas seem to be people willing to dismiss any rational concern as being anti-vax. People are right to have worries and concerns regarding this vaccine and it doesn't help that some people want to tar them as cranks when they express them.

In fact, it is brazenly hypocritical.

The "real agendas"??

Ok Angelo, whatever gets you through the night.

You're the one calling out agendas against people who have genuine concerns about the virus. Why are you doing that?

Seems to be a lot people out there whose sole agenda is to tell people to shut and trust Big Pharma, the bastions of morality.

[macdanger2]

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

Plenty of agendas out there.

The real agendas seem to be people willing to dismiss any rational concern as being anti-vax. People are right to have worries and concerns regarding this vaccine and it doesn't help that some people want to tar them as cranks when they express them.

In fact, it is brazenly hypocritical.

The "real agendas"??

Ok Angelo, whatever gets you through the night.

You're the one calling out agendas against people who have genuine concerns about the virus. Why are you doing that?

Seems to be a lot people out there whose sole agenda is to tell people to shut and trust Big Pharma, the bastions of morality.

I think you might be on to something here Angelo, too many sheeple in here not willing to listen to you though. You need to get on twitter and get your message out there before it's too late

[J70]

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

Plenty of agendas out there.

The real agendas seem to be people willing to dismiss any rational concern as being anti-vax. People are right to have worries and concerns regarding this vaccine and it doesn't help that some people want to tar them as cranks when they express them.

In fact, it is brazenly hypocritical.

The "real agendas"??

Ok Angelo, whatever gets you through the night.

You're the one calling out agendas against people who have genuine concerns about the virus. Why are you doing that?

Seems to be a lot people out there whose sole agenda is to tell people to shut and trust Big Pharma, the bastions of morality.

Where did I call out people with genuine concerns?

I said the response to the allergic reactions was absolutely appropriate. Did you miss that part of my post which you left out in your quote?

I'm talking about the anti-vaccine, pseudoscientific, conspiracy movement who will hype every illness and death to come in those who have received the vaccine. Doesn't matter what the stats or studies say. Everything that doesn't jibe with their preconceived conclusions will be dismissed as propaganda and bought-off scientists. These types of people are not looking to have their "genuine concerns" allayed.

[Angelo]

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

Plenty of agendas out there.

The real agendas seem to be people willing to dismiss any rational concern as being anti-vax. People are right to have worries and concerns regarding this vaccine and it doesn't help that some people want to tar them as cranks when they express them.

In fact, it is brazenly hypocritical.

The "real agendas"??

Ok Angelo, whatever gets you through the night.

You're the one calling out agendas against people who have genuine concerns about the virus. Why are you doing that?

Seems to be a lot people out there whose sole agenda is to tell people to shut and trust Big Pharma, the bastions of morality.

Where did I call out people with genuine concerns?

I said the response to the allergic reactions was absolutely appropriate. Did you miss that part of my post which you left out in your quote?

I'm talking about the anti-vaccine, pseudoscientific, conspiracy movement who will hype every illness and death to come in those who have received the vaccine. Doesn't matter what the stats or studies say. Everything that doesn't jibe with their preconceived conclusions will be dismissed as propaganda and bought-off scientists. These types of people are not looking to have their "genuine concerns" allayed.

But those with an agenda are going to hype up every single one as somehow indicative of the the danger of the vaccine.

These sort of comments don't help, there are genuine concerns re the vaccine and a lot of the rhetoric on this thread when someone voices them is damning.