Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

[Seaney]

Fair play hope I get call, of course I'll say yes but one needs consent, milhouse playing a blinder as always hes ok to hell with rest.

You are a clown.... you'll say yes?

By the way Milhouse quote where I  said I am adverse to a vaccine.

[Milltown Row2]

You can say whatever you want, I don't know you from Adam, you've made up some stupid comments why should I believe an anonymous poster on a discussion board?

You calling me a ballbag sums up you completely.

You claim that this virus is not safe, your phd mucker told you. But happy for people to get it in a care home?

Very strange behaviour

[Milltown Row2]

No nor will any of my family.

[Milltown Row2]

So if you are looking for some sort of a defence of that, you may look elsewhere.

I am not looking for anything, certainly not for the queue for the vaccine.

[Milltown Row2]

Lots of risks in life, crossing the road is dangerous don't you think?  Driving with ejits on the road is dangerous don't you think?  Not wanting to administer a new vaccine into one's body without knowing the long term effects is one of the more cautious approaches, you not think so?

[Milltown Row2]

But happy to put your family at the front of the queue

[Chief]

Fair play hope I get call, of course I'll say yes but one needs consent, milhouse playing a blinder as always hes ok to hell with rest.

You are a clown.... you'll say yes?

You have to be the most self centred ballbag on this board. We have 5 family members, we get 30 minutes once a week for one person to see a parent with complicated medical needs, if we as a family say no it will continue,  I have yet to set foot inside said care home we are not allowed all window visits or outside visits in the summer  you are a hateful selfish individual who cares about no one but your status on a discussion board,.

Hang on, are you saying you won't get it personally but will consent to its administration a family member, even though you have all sorts of concerns about it?

I might be missing any intended sarcasm or irony...

[Seamus]

So, its been explained to me that the vaccine is (i)not an inactive virus, and (ii)only presents the spike protein as a foreign invader for the immune system to target.

Which means its intrinsically safe. Any side effects will be the body's own immune system ramping up to right off an infection - even if the infection is actually a fake harmless one.


I know I said way earlier in the thread I had some vague concerns, now I'm happy with it and happy to get it.

I'd advise you to do some more research. Below is a small sample of the many issues regarding the approved vaccines.

"The formation of so-called "non neutralizing antibodies" can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real "wild" virus after vaccination. This so called anti-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus".

" The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contains polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people developed antibodies against this substance –  this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccine".

"The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS_CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.

"The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless BioNTech/Pfizer submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020, (which has now been granted)".

  mRNA technology have never been used in vaccines production before this crazy leap of faith, ignoring years of animal studies which has proven the risk of vaccine enhancement where the subject is not protected but the vaccine can make the disease worse when the new flu season comes along. This is a big danger to the unvaccinated if their immune system is not optimal due to viral shedding. This may well lead us the introduction of COVID-21.

What is the source there?

I like to read the full article and any reviews

Based on his previous sources I would guess someone with a MA (Hons) in Liberal Arts.

Dr. Michael Yeadon, former Pfizer head of respiratory research along with Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, lung specialist and former head of the public health department. Both have far greater credentials than you two and eugenicist Bill Gates. They also have integrity which cannot be said of Gates and Fauci whom the lying media claims to be "the most trusted person in America".

[Seamus]

If only we could get polio, small pox etc etc back.....

Polio?

You're bringing Polio into it? Did you hear about or remember the Polio vaccine that paralysed people for life?

I really pit the stupidity of some of you on here.

A list of the things we simply cannot question on here:

Neil Lennon
Vaccines and Big Pharma

There were 350000 polio cases in 1988. There are approx 50 per year nowadays.

Don't try to bamboozle some of the covidiots on here with facts.

Conveniently the criteria for polio diagnosis has changed. I'm expecting the real idiots to come up with some lame excuse in order to keep their belief systems intact. Covidiots, how Orwellian.

Polio now hides behind these names: acute flaccid paralysis (AFP), Transverse Myelitis, Viral or aseptic Meningitis, Guillain-Barre syndrome, Chinese Paralytic syndrome, Cronic Fatigue Syndrome, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, Synonyms for GBS].

Hiding Polio: The Diagnosis Lie
"Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral and aseptic meningitis. According to one of the 1997 issues of MMWR, there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis per year in the United States alone. That is where all those cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination"

Viera Scheibner, Ph.D (2002)

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html

Seamus- as a contribution to the debate that is dreadful.

Whilst Ms Scheibner is a scientist you will be the first to admit that he field of science is geology. Post retirement she has entered the vaccination debate where she has been accused variously of being a pseudoscientist and deliberately peddling misinformation with no scientific basis.

As a source she is discredited. Wholly discredited. She has literally been thrown out of court for her lack of credibility. She is a Rudi Guiliani type figure.

As for the polio points.
You need to clear. If you are suggesting that that diagnosis are being given to suppress polio stats then be specific.
Secondly the global prevaccination levels of polio are unknown. Many of the cases were in the developing world. Only severe cases were recorded. When we hear of 300-400k cases per year these are severe cases.

The diseases you mention don't come close to those numbers and your list includes viral meningitis where the numbers are overwhelmingly at the milder end of the spectrum (I.e. full recovery within a week).

Your article is based upon this selective use of sources. It is absolute horseshit

"Horseshit" coming from a person who agrees that vaccines should be given to 11 year old children without parental consent and knowledge!

Better sanitation, housing and nutrition are the number one reasons in the decline of polio. What has Viera Scheibner, Ph.D got to do with disguising polio under 20 different names? Being discredited by Big Pharma and main stream media is a badge of honor, they just hate the truth. You never even heard of her until a few days ago when you did your Google search.

My sources are not selective, I have done extensive research on vaccines, thousands upon thousands of health experts are in agreement.

Even your lying media and WHO occasionally do tell the truth

More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus
https://news.yahoo.com/more-polio-cases-now-caused-112118039.html

[Seaney]

You can say whatever you want, I don't know you from Adam, you've made up some stupid comments why should I believe an anonymous poster on a discussion board?

You calling me a ballbag sums up you completely.

You claim that this virus is not safe, your phd mucker told you. But happy for people to get it in a care home?

Very strange behaviour

I claim the virus is not safe!!!! You read our families situation,  ballbag is too good a word to describe a parasite like you.

[Seaney]

No nor will any of my family.

My family is my wife and kids how would I have control over my siblings, a parent in a care home my cousins, my nephews etc, you are making a tool out of yourself.

[Seaney]

But happy to put your family at the front of the queue

No I am not the system is, what is our alternative if we refuse, I will ask that if I am contacted but have my doubts that I will be,  you show time and time again the only thing that matters to you is point scoring on an anonymous board, you really are a snake of a human being.

[Seaney]

Fair play hope I get call, of course I'll say yes but one needs consent, milhouse playing a blinder as always hes ok to hell with rest.

You are a clown.... you'll say yes?

You have to be the most self centred ballbag on this board. We have 5 family members, we get 30 minutes once a week for one person to see a parent with complicated medical needs, if we as a family say no it will continue,  I have yet to set foot inside said care home we are not allowed all window visits or outside visits in the summer  you are a hateful selfish individual who cares about no one but your status on a discussion board,.

Hang on, are you saying you won't get it personally but will consent to its administration a family member, even though you have all sorts of concerns about it?

I might be missing any intended sarcasm or irony...

Read my posts kid.

[Seaney]

And headbangers who as a collective think they can bully, berate and try to intimidate folk with reasonable health care concerns about a vaccine ten months in the making and only being administrated currently in a country run by liars and swindlers to achieve nothing but political gain.

Seany, you're your own worst enemy. You're a broken record on here. You start your week / day in this thread repeating the same aggressive nonsense. ie, you've done an 'Angelo'. To have such a staunch position, surely you have all the stats to hand? Getting your undercrackers in a twist is of no benefit to anyone. Links from BBC interviewing professors who have explained how they've been working on this type of vaccine for almost 6 years etc have all been posted on here. The vaccine template they've developed has had the Covid 19 spike protein added and the risks are miniscule. Go read them. How 10 years work has been done in months etc

Today is a great day, the beginning of the end for this scurge. I should hopefully have my vaccine before the end of the year. I'll let you know if I grow a third eye

The irony, how many times have you quoted that!!

Twice. For your well being Seany, it was hopefully worth pointing out again

Just for info up since 4 start work very early.

[Taylor]

Fair play hope I get call, of course I'll say yes but one needs consent, milhouse playing a blinder as always hes ok to hell with rest.

Sorry Im confused Seany.

Are you saying you are going to say yes for the vaccine for your parent but that care homes are collateral damage?

Hopefully yesterday allayed your fears with the vaccine