One Punch

[thewobbler]

Would it not be fair to suggest that immediately after an altercation, the least natural thing for a human to do, is to check on the health of their assailant? The very purpose of fighting / fighting back is to prevent the other purpose from being able to attack you.

[Man Marker]

would it be considered out of character for him? don't recall him as a dirty player when playing for Derry.

https://m.facebook.com/BallsGAA/videos/monster-hit-by-derrys-fergal-doherty/784187174985767/

What a lowlife to post that, its got feck all to do with it. its a shoulder tackle that was legitimate at the time of the game.

[imtommygunn]

Fs that's disgusting.

[seafoid]

A real tragedy. The deceased had 2 kids. Awful.

[Tubberman]

Would it not be fair to suggest that immediately after an altercation, the least natural thing for a human to do, is to check on the health of their assailant? The very purpose of fighting / fighting back is to prevent the other purpose from being able to attack you.

Would ya stop.You don't leave someone unconscious in the middle of a road.

[thewobbler]

Would it not be fair to suggest that immediately after an altercation, the least natural thing for a human to do, is to check on the health of their assailant? The very purpose of fighting / fighting back is to prevent the other purpose from being able to attack you.

Would ya stop.You don't leave someone unconscious in the middle of a road.

It's about 30 years since I connected a punch, so I'm no expert in the appropriate decorum after taking a man's head off.

But I worked in plenty of pubs, some with door staff, some without. And never have I seen a member of staff go to to check on the health of someone who was forcibly removed.

Nor have I seen a brawl in a street end with one man on the ground and his opponent standing over him checking he is okay.

[RedHand88]

Joe Brolly taking the case.

[WT4E]

Would it not be fair to suggest that immediately after an altercation, the least natural thing for a human to do, is to check on the health of their assailant? The very purpose of fighting / fighting back is to prevent the other purpose from being able to attack you.

Would ya stop.You don't leave someone unconscious in the middle of a road.

It's about 30 years since I connected a punch, so I'm no expert in the appropriate decorum after taking a man's head off.

But I worked in plenty of pubs, some with door staff, some without. And never have I seen a member of staff go to to check on the health of someone who was forcibly removed.

Nor have I seen a brawl in a street end with one man on the ground and his opponent standing over him checking he is okay.

Its not a normal fight situation here

Doormen have a duty of care (I know most of them don't usually act with respect but thats no excuse)

The person who threw the punch in this case owned the premises - to leave the victim lying for 15mins and not check on him even after a minute is not right in my opinion.

[gallsman]

would it be considered out of character for him? don't recall him as a dirty player when playing for Derry.

No comparison to be made or parallel to be drawn here whatsoever.

[Ethan Tremblay]

Would it not be fair to suggest that immediately after an altercation, the least natural thing for a human to do, is to check on the health of their assailant? The very purpose of fighting / fighting back is to prevent the other purpose from being able to attack you.

Would ya stop.You don't leave someone unconscious in the middle of a road.

It's about 30 years since I connected a punch, so I'm no expert in the appropriate decorum after taking a man's head off.

But I worked in plenty of pubs, some with door staff, some without. And never have I seen a member of staff go to to check on the health of someone who was forcibly removed.

Nor have I seen a brawl in a street end with one man on the ground and his opponent standing over him checking he is okay.

Its not a normal fight situation here

Doormen have a duty of care (I know most of them don't usually act with respect but thats no excuse)

The person who threw the punch in this case owned the premises - to leave the victim lying for 15mins and not check on him even after a minute is not right in my opinion.

In the immediate aftermath of something like that, ie within seconds it probably wouldn't be a natural thing to do no.  I am assuming he knew he put him on the ground and knew he was still there minutes after he had done it, which is completely different.

[screenexile]

would it be considered out of character for him? don't recall him as a dirty player when playing for Derry.

No comparison to be made or parallel to be drawn here whatsoever.

Yeah 100%

For what it's worth I would have said this was out of character for him.

[RedHand88]

The problem is that when someone is intoxicated, it takes very little to knock them down. Plus they aren't going to protect their head whilst falling in the same way a sober person is. Any sort of head blow can be absolutely devastating.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Why did he get involved?
There were doormen there?

[tbrick18]

Absolutely tragic situation for all involved.

Really I wouldn't want to pass comment on either party as nobody here really knows what happened.
The sad truth is there is a family who have lost a father and another where the father is currently in prison.
There are no winners here no matter what the outcome.

Devastating for all involved.

[tyrone08]

Very tragic and it can happen to anyone. However its the actions or in this case the lack of actions which is the issue. Leaving someone out there for 15 mins and then dragging them in without any kind of assistance is the big issue along with lying to the police at the initial stage.