Poll
Question:
Who do you want to win
Option 1: Trump
votes: 27
Option 2: Hillary
votes: 70
Just a quick Poll to see who people here would vote for.
What about the other candidates?
I think it is an awful choice. Trump is the Penguin. Hillary is King Herod
Bernie Sanders. Democrats backed the wrong candidate.
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 07, 2016, 01:48:55 PM
Bernie Sanders. Democrats backed the wrong candidate.
Can't vote for a man not running!
If ever there was a year for a Brewster's Millions style "Vote None of the Above", this is it.
I went for the lesser evil
Went for Trump, just for the craic
When can we expect to start getting results in?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
So tell us, how was the craic then?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
Where's the neither option?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
Are you an uneducated white man?
https://youtu.be/B-HDsmJbm_E
Bill Mahers take
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2016, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
Are you an uneducated white man?
Jesus lads, Americans voted for Regan, Nixon and both Bush's ffs!! Get a grip one more clampet won't make any difference to your life!!!
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Bigly is the answer.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2016, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
Are you an uneducated white man?
Jesus lads, Americans voted for Regan, Nixon and both Bush's ffs!! Get a grip one more clampet won't make any difference to your life!!!
You missed a few, the peanut farmer was gas, the current pc loving dickhead in chief is a real hoot, The man hasn't the balls he was born with.
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
1950s nostalgia. Uppity negroes knew their place. There were v few Latinos, Women had babies and stayed at home. 1953 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AkLE4X-bbU
Elvis Presley started the rot.
1956 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzQ8GDBA8Is
After a show in La Crosse, Wisconsin, an urgent message on the letterhead of the local Catholic diocese's newspaper was sent to FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. It warned that "Presley is a definite danger to the security of the United States. ... [His] actions and motions were such as to rouse the sexual passions of teenaged youth. ... After the show, more than 1,000 teenagers tried to gang into Presley's room at the auditorium. ... Indications of the harm Presley did just in La Crosse were the two high school girls ... whose abdomen and thigh had Presley's autograph."
Congrats Trump - looks like Brexit least of our worries!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2016, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
Are you an uneducated white man?
Jesus lads, Americans voted for Regan, Nixon and both Bush's ffs!! Get a grip one more clampet won't make any difference to your life!!!
Agreee 100%
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2016, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
Are you an uneducated white man?
Jesus lads, Americans voted for Regan, Nixon and both Bush's ffs!! Get a grip one more clampet won't make any difference to your life!!!
it is easy to make trite comparisons. While I'm not sure I would have voted for them, Nixon and Bush Sr were competent politicians, Reagan had been Governor of California. I'd say they all had more policies than Trump.
It's not like the president has any power. They are just puppets.
Quote from: BennyCake on November 09, 2016, 10:07:55 AM
It's not like the president has any power. They are just puppets.
President of USA doesn't have any power?
That's true!! I'd rather not have a dumbass in one of the world's most powerful offices!!
Quote from: armaghniac on November 09, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 07, 2016, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Went for Trump, just for the craic
Are you an uneducated white man?
Jesus lads, Americans voted for Regan, Nixon and both Bush's ffs!! Get a grip one more clampet won't make any difference to your life!!!
it is easy to make trite comparisons. While I'm not sure I would have voted for them, Nixon and Bush Sr were competent politicians, Reagan had been Governor of California. I'd say they all had more policies than Trump.
Nixon was kicked out ffs, as for Bush sr he used it for his own purposes...
This campaign was dirty on both sides, like Brexit, lets see what unfolds before making wild accusations as i dont see Trump carrying out half the things he said, as he'll follow suit, like the rest
Quote from: Tubberman on November 09, 2016, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 09, 2016, 10:07:55 AM
It's not like the president has any power. They are just puppets.
President of USA doesn't have any power?
Yes. It's all a facade. The real nutbars are behind the scenes
Quote from: BennyCake on November 09, 2016, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on November 09, 2016, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 09, 2016, 10:07:55 AM
It's not like the president has any power. They are just puppets.
President of USA doesn't have any power?
Yes. It's all a facade. The real nutbars are behind the scenes
The American system is set up with check and balances in place precisely for this scenario, to ensure a President can't go nuts. Congress and the republican party will control him via the senate and congress.
The scary thing from an American point of view is the third branch of power, the legislative branch... trump will now be naming definitely one if not two / three supreme court judges, which will impact interpretations of law / the constitution. This is the big result from last night. America was on the cusp of having a liberal majority on the supreme court for the first time in 50 years, and it could have been cemented in for about 20 years.
Also, Obamacare is now gone, so Obama's legacy is shot
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Who is he going to make it great for Stew?
Quote from: muppet on November 09, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Who is he going to make it great for Stew?
Nobody in all likelihood, I am hoping he takes care of the middle class, the working class and those on welfare in that he can create jobs and tighten the borders, no one gets in without being vetted one hundred percent.
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 09, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Who is he going to make it great for Stew?
Nobody in all likelihood, I am hoping he takes care of the middle class, the working class and those on welfare in that he can create jobs and tighten the borders, no one gets in without being vetted one hundred percent.
What about those illegals who have been there for a while, let them stay, or kick them out?
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 09, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Who is he going to make it great for Stew?
Nobody in all likelihood, I am hoping he takes care of the middle class, the working class and those on welfare in that he can create jobs and tighten the borders, no one gets in without being vetted one hundred percent.
Trump is a Billionaire with some serious lawsuits coming up against him.
The only one he will make great again, is himself.
Although I suspect he may allow Russia to expand.
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
He is the Fianna Fail president after all.
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Trump has promised to reduce taxes 'across the board'. No mention of course of how he will balance the books trying to achieve this.
He has also threatened massive tariffs on trade with China. The very people who own a serious amount of US debt. That won't go well either.
Quote from: No wides on November 09, 2016, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 09, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Who is he going to make it great for Stew?
Nobody in all likelihood, I am hoping he takes care of the middle class, the working class and those on welfare in that he can create jobs and tighten the borders, no one gets in without being vetted one hundred percent.
What about those illegals who have been there for a while, let them stay, or kick them out?
As long as they are good people with no records in my opinion they should be able to stay, pay taxes and become citizens.
If they have records for violence or drugs out to f**k they go!
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
As long as they are good people with no records in my opinion they should be able to stay, pay taxes and become citizens.
That's what the Republicans have been referring to as amnesty and they are 100% opposed to that.
Quote from: muppet on November 09, 2016, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Trump has promised to reduce taxes 'across the board'. No mention of course of how he will balance the books trying to achieve this.
He has also threatened massive tariffs on trade with China. The very people who own a serious amount of US debt. That wom n't go well either.
Precisely. Plus his mass expulsion of illegals (BBC estimates this around $11bn), his precious wall (another BBC estimate of between $3-12bn)... the only cost saver I can see is scrapping Obamacare which won't save much. He would need 100% employment and the taxes that come with this to even come anywhere near close to being able to afford half of if.
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
The people mainly responsible for the US debt mountain are:
a) Dubya's people, for example Hank Paulson
b) Obama's people
c) the GOP for the deals they did with Obama to further their own agendas
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Don't see what that's got to do with Trump not being able to do anything he just said he would because of his own party.
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Don't see what that's got to do with Trump not being able to do anything he just said he would because of his own party.
How strong is the Republician majority in the senate currently?
Quote from: trileacman on November 09, 2016, 02:50:48 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Don't see what that's got to do with Trump not being able to do anything he just said he would because of his own party.
How strong is the Republician majority in the senate currently?
54/100, with Dems only gaining one seat.
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 01:12:53 PM
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Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: moysider on November 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Quote from: Hardy on November 07, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafonte-what-do-we-have-to-lose-everything.html
Great piece.
+1. When exactly was America great? Has anybody asked Trump I wonder?
Hmmmm, let's see, A country was born, kicking the shit out of the Brits and shortly after becomes the most influential country on the planet, America was great, innovative and propped up the rest of the world, now China owns much of it, before that, the Japanese.
Who is he going to make it great for Stew?
Nobody in all likelihood, I am hoping he takes care of the middle class, the working class and those on welfare in that he can create jobs and tighten the borders, no one gets in without being vetted one hundred percent.
Why would a lad whose Trump companies are renowned for not paying their subbies all of a sudden give a shit for the middle and working class, let alone those on welfare?
Peter Beinart is a Jewish commentator
I'm not leaving America. It's my country. I have to fight for it. I have to fight – every American Jew has to fight – to protect the American Muslims who right now must be terrified beyond belief. I have to fight the dozens of American Nazis who have descended on my Twitter feed to celebrate their victory. I still love America to my core. But I don't trust it in the same way. And I don't trust progress. I keep hearing my grandmother's voice in my ear.
Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Good soundbyte. But you need to discount from that the policies he inherited from Bush that drove the debt up, in particular the stimulus packages after the financial crisis, the wars in the Middle East and the Bush tax cuts. Yes, you'll see it rising steeply under his presidency but these were not his policies. In fact a lot of analysis has been done to show that his policies added much less to debt than Bushes. On top of that, Bush inherited a booming economy and handed over a collapsed economy to Obama where unemployment had risen to something like 15%. Obama is handing the ecomomy over to Trump in much better shape than he found it.
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Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Good soundbyte. But you need to discount from that the policies he inherited from Bush that drove the debt up, in particular the stimulus packages after the financial crisis, the wars in the Middle East and the Bush tax cuts. Yes, you'll see it rising steeply under his presidency but these were not his policies. In fact a lot of analysis has been done to show that his policies added much less to debt than Bushes. On top of that, Bush inherited a booming economy and handed over a collapsed economy to Obama where unemployment had risen to something like 15%. Obama is handing the ecomomy over to Trump in much better shape than he found it.
Trump has not paid any taxes or even give any money to charity. Trump effectively admitted
this was correct by responding with: "That makes me smart" in a debate.
Leaving aside any criminal aspects of tax evasion, it seems that Trump does not understand that the president is a role model. So what would happen if the entire population of the USA were to be as selfishly smart as Trump? Obviously, no one would pay taxes. And if no one pays taxes, then Trump's federal government would have no money to pay off any debt or implement any social, economic, political, or military program, including Trump's secret plan to defeat ISIS and his not-so-secret plan to build a wall along the border with Mexico (unless, of course, Mexico actually does pay for that wall...... in advance). Pretty soon, the US would look worse than any Third-World country. And that's how Trump would "make America
great again".
What trump has not yet admitted is that he wants to make America "great" only
for his personal business interests.
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Quote from: stew on November 09, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
As long as they are good people with no records in my opinion they should be able to stay, pay taxes and become citizens.
That's what the Republicans have been referring to as amnesty and they are 100% opposed to that.
I know and I am not a Republican.
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Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 09, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: NetNitrate on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
There's a theory that the only way to improve world economy is to invest a shitload of money into fixing infrastructure. Much of Anerica's is falling apart. This will create jobs for the disenfranchised and these are the types that will then spend money, in contrast to the uber wealthy that keep their money with wealth managers and trusts which in no way helps economy. Trump as a real estate developer seems to get that. Ironically his only experience in construction could make him a great President.
I'll look forward to the day that the Republican controlled Congress passes the bill allowing a higher level of debt to fund this infrastructure building.
Did you look forward to the debt Obama created in eight years, you know, the ten trillion he fucked the country into?
Good soundbyte. But you need to discount from that the policies he inherited from Bush that drove the debt up, in particular the stimulus packages after the financial crisis, the wars in the Middle East and the Bush tax cuts. Yes, you'll see it rising steeply under his presidency but these were not his policies. In fact a lot of analysis has been done to show that his policies added much less to debt than Bushes. On top of that, Bush inherited a booming economy and handed over a collapsed economy to Obama where unemployment had risen to something like 15%. Obama is handing the ecomomy over to Trump in much better shape than he found it.
Did he f**k, the economy was heading toward recession six months before Bush was President! Obama has added tremendously to the deficit, don't discount the numbers.
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