Should Leo stand down until investigation complete?

[sid waddell]

Shinners think everybody who opposes them is a troll

Shows how in touch with reality they are

The exact same coin as the DUP and the Tories

You recently accused me of being "into dead children". Of course you a troll. A sub-human one. I look forward to your inevitable permanent ban.

Sure, and Ann Travers and Brian Stack are probably "sub-human trolls" too

May I remind you that calling those who disagree with them "sub-human" was literally what the Nazis did

You realise this, yes?

And demanding others be silenced because you don't like their views has always been the Sinn Fein way

[Snapchap]

No, you're the only one who has accused me of being "into dead children". And then totally fabricating an accusation against another poster that he accused you of child rape? Of course you are sub-human.

Enough of speaking to you anyway.

[sid waddell]

@Snapchap

Do you acknowledge that calling others "sub human", as you do, is literally what the Nazis did?

[Snapchap]

The Monday morning after the story broke about the current Tánaiste and next Taoiseach being under criminal investigation, and the story is No. 15 on the RTÉ News website, no. 8 on the Irish Times, and No. 10 on the Indo. What a joke.

[bennydorano]

A Shinner complaining about "whataboutery" 

A Shinner complaining about "corruption"

What a laugh

Answers a whataboutery question with more whataboutery. You're just a bit of a big child Sid.

I'm quite clearly not a SF supporter if you read my political posts.

[Denn Forever]

what did he do?

[sid waddell]

Seems like very few people care

Sinn Fein have been less than vocal anyway and that's hardly a surprise given they have no moral authority whatsoever to call out corruption

Though maybe they could use some of the Northern Bank money to fund their own "investigation"

[johnnycool]

what did he do?

https://villagemagazine.ie/its-a-crime/

[trueblue1234]

Seems like very few people care

Sinn Fein have been less than vocal anyway and that's hardly a surprise given they have no moral authority whatsoever to call out corruption

Though maybe they could use some of the Northern Bank money to fund their own "investigation"

You're trying to do one of two things Sid.

Trying to wind up SF posters, and don't give a sh!t if you side track another thread to do so just so you can point score.

Trying to supress discussion about the actual issue by trying to use distracting whataboutery.

Neither is an addition to the board and you are acting like a complete child.

[Baile Brigín 2]

what did he do?

There were two GP organisations negotiating the state contract. The IMO with 99% of GP's agreed a deal. A smaller union, run by a mate of Leo's and subsequently wound up by the fraud squad were still in talks. Leo ordered a copy of the IMO deal and couriered it to his mate. Harris as MoH was not allowed view this document due to its sensitivity

Leo claims his legal advise is that politicians are not considered to be public servants in the State Secrets Act.

[Baile Brigín 2]

The Monday morning after the story broke about the current Tánaiste and next Taoiseach being under criminal investigation, and the story is No. 15 on the RTÉ News website, no. 8 on the Irish Times, and No. 10 on the Indo. What a joke.

RTE and the Times are under pressure to explain why they passed on this story

[sid waddell]

Seems like very few people care

Sinn Fein have been less than vocal anyway and that's hardly a surprise given they have no moral authority whatsoever to call out corruption

Though maybe they could use some of the Northern Bank money to fund their own "investigation"

You're trying to do one of two things Sid.

Trying to wind up SF posters, and don't give a sh!t if you side track another thread to do so just so you can point score.

Trying to supress discussion about the actual issue by trying to use distracting whataboutery.

Neither is an addition to the board and you are acting like a complete child.

Sorry but the strategy of Sinn Fein supporters literally any time anything to do with the PIRA or Sinn Fein corruption or murder is brought up is to whatabout, deflect and deny

See what happened when the Paul Quinn story raised its head before the last election

So it's absolutely laughable to see SF supporters complaining here

There's a very serious point here

And that is that Sinn Fein supporters have zero moral authority to call any sort of corruption - alleged or proven - and this case is far from proven

Again, Varadkar's mistake was that he didn't order a human bomb, rob a bank, cover up child sex abuse, cover up murders, or commemorate a Nazi collaborator

Because these are the exact things that Sinn Fein supporters not just tolerate but celebrate

[Angelo]

what did he do?

- leaked a confidential contract to his friend who was head of a rival organisation
- messages show his friend and his colleagues saw this as an opportunity to destroy their rival organisation
- did not tell anyone in govt what he was doing
- claims he only did it for the good of the nation which is completely implausible

Also worth noting that the FFG government decided to appoint a former FF senator as independent board member which will investigate the case under the SIPO (Standards in Public Office). Said former FF senator is a former lobbyist for the NAGP (the organisation who the document was leaked to).

You couldn't make the transparent levels of corruption and cronyism up here.

[trueblue1234]

Seems like very few people care

Sinn Fein have been less than vocal anyway and that's hardly a surprise given they have no moral authority whatsoever to call out corruption

Though maybe they could use some of the Northern Bank money to fund their own "investigation"

You're trying to do one of two things Sid.

Trying to wind up SF posters, and don't give a sh!t if you side track another thread to do so just so you can point score.

Trying to supress discussion about the actual issue by trying to use distracting whataboutery.

Neither is an addition to the board and you are acting like a complete child.

Sorry but the strategy of Sinn Fein supporters literally any time anything to do with the PIRA or Sinn Fein corruption or murder is brought up is to whatabout, deflect and deny

See what happened when the Paul Quinn story raised its head before the last election

So it's absolutely laughable to see SF supporters complaining here

There's a very serious point here

And that is that Sinn Fein supporters have zero moral authority to call any sort of corruption - alleged or proven - and this case is far from proven

Again, Varadkar's mistake was that he didn't order a human bomb, rob a bank, cover up child sex abuse, cover up murders, or commemorate a Nazi collaborator

Because these are the exact things that Sinn Fein supporters not just tolerate but celebrate

Did you criticise those posters for their whataboutery, deflection and denials? Or were you happy enough for them to do so and believed it was an good debating strategy? 

[Angelo]

what did he do?

Leo claims his legal advise is that politicians are not considered to be public servants in the State Secrets Act.

He also claims his motives in doing this was to "sew harmony" which does not hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.