Down Club Hurling & Football

[Back2Winning]

Any substance to the rumours Darragh Cross have been relegated to ACFL Div 4 while Drumaness will remain in ACFL Div 3?

[manwithnoplan]

Any substance to the rumours Darragh Cross have been relegated to ACFL Div 4 while Drumaness will remain in ACFL Div 3?

What is the reason for that?

[thewobbler]

why would clubs pay off the counties debt ? has the county ever paid off a club debt ?

Was going to reply here but it smells of wind-up.

[Ed Hardy]

Just over 2 weeks a way until the 1st game of the new season for Down. Any word on how the panel is looking?

[Sandstorm]

Short memory Wobbler. It's not long since the debacle of Burrenbridge that cost £500k. Paid a massive non refundable deposit of £450k. Who do you think paid for that and are still paying? THE CLUBS.
Why do you think similar could not happen again?
Waken up and .........

[RadioGAAGAA]

Short memory Wobbler. It's not long since the debacle of Burrenbridge that cost £500k. Paid a massive non refundable deposit of £450k. Who do you think paid for that and are still paying? THE CLUBS.
Why do you think similar could not happen again?
Waken up and .........

So your agreed it would make sense for the clubs to pay it down now rather than continue to pay interest on the county debt to the banks. 

[skat man]

Short memory Wobbler. It's not long since the debacle of Burrenbridge that cost £500k. Paid a massive non refundable deposit of £450k. Who do you think paid for that and are still paying? THE CLUBS.
Why do you think similar could not happen again?
Waken up and .........

So your agreed it would make sense for the clubs to pay it down now rather than continue to pay interest on the county debt to the banks. 

you know alot of clubs have debt of their own right ?

[Hard2Listen2]

Short memory Wobbler. It's not long since the debacle of Burrenbridge that cost £500k. Paid a massive non refundable deposit of £450k. Who do you think paid for that and are still paying? THE CLUBS.
Why do you think similar could not happen again?
Waken up and .........

So your agreed it would make sense for the clubs to pay it down now rather than continue to pay interest on the county debt to the banks. 

you know alot of clubs have debt of their own right ?

I think you're missing the point here.
Clubs are already paying a levy to cover the costs from Burrenbridge.
What people are saying is to clear that debt outright & the levy on clubs won't be required. 

I suspect however that JP has a condition that the money must go the the club & they decide how to spend it.

[skat man]

i get the point , my point is it makes more fiscal sense for a club to pay down their own loans as the repayments will be much higher than the fraction they contribute to fix the county boards mess. thankfully jp had the foresight to make sure it goes to clubs so its irrelevant really 

[thewobbler]

i get the point , my point is it makes more fiscal sense for a club to pay down their own loans as the repayments will be much higher than the fraction they contribute to fix the county boards mess. thankfully jp had the foresight to make sure it goes to clubs so its irrelevant really 

Your numbers don't add up to me Skattie.

JP's maximum donation per club is slated to be circa €24k, or about £21.5k.

It's a very welcome donation, but let's be honest, it will make only a small impression against the outlay required for a modern GAA capital expenditure project ie the ones we all get loans for.

Whereas if half of each donation was sent upstairs, that tally from 40+ clubs would wipe out the county's debt in full, and remove the levy we've all been paying for a decade.

JP might have been right to state it was for the clubs. But by the same measure our clubs have the right to use it to pay off our county's debts.

[Back2Winning]

Any substance to the rumours Darragh Cross have been relegated to ACFL Div 4 while Drumaness will remain in ACFL Div 3?

What is the reason for that?

It is alleged Darragh played an unregistered player throughout the 2023 league campaign. If points gained while the unregistered player was playing are removed it may see them finish below Drumaness in the league and therefore relegated. The big question will be, are they also relegated to the Junior Championship with their wins in the Intermediate now being scratched also?? 

[manwithnoplan]

Any substance to the rumours Darragh Cross have been relegated to ACFL Div 4 while Drumaness will remain in ACFL Div 3?

What is the reason for that?

It is alleged Darragh played an unregistered player throughout the 2023 league campaign. If points gained while the unregistered player was playing are removed it may see them finish below Drumaness in the league and therefore relegated. The big question will be, are they also relegated to the Junior Championship with their wins in the Intermediate now being scratched also?? 

They would likely walk division 4 and the JFC, reducing the opportunities for the other clubs to gain promotion or win the JFC. It wouldn't do anyone any good. Was it a deliberate breach of the rules or a technicality that saw the player playing without being registered?

[skat man]

i get the point , my point is it makes more fiscal sense for a club to pay down their own loans as the repayments will be much higher than the fraction they contribute to fix the county boards mess. thankfully jp had the foresight to make sure it goes to clubs so its irrelevant really 

Your numbers don't add up to me Skattie.

JP's maximum donation per club is slated to be circa €24k, or about £21.5k.

It's a very welcome donation, but let's be honest, it will make only a small impression against the outlay required for a modern GAA capital expenditure project ie the ones we all get loans for.

Whereas if half of each donation was sent upstairs, that tally from 40+ clubs would wipe out the county's debt in full, and remove the levy we've all been paying for a decade.

JP might have been right to state it was for the clubs. But by the same measure our clubs have the right to use it to pay off our county's debts.

 a 100k loan having 20% repaid off it would save a club considerably in repayments so my numbers are fine . clubs provide the county with players , pitches and gym facilities in some cases. In other counties the clubs are making great use of county provided facilities which is how it should be in my view.

you are right in saying clubs have a right to do as they please with the donation. there wont be many id wager sending it back to the county board.

[Kong King]

Hard2listen2 do you have the updated verified list of nanagement teams

[Hard2Listen2]

Hard2listen2 do you have the updated verified list of nanagement teams

Ha! I'm not going down that line again!