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Any word of the McKenna cup panel yet?

Anybody know any website's to watch soccer on... EPL site not working properly for me!

Heading there in October, anybody know of good places to stay in either place? not sure whether to stay out near Disney land or in the city itself and in Miami was thinking of South Beach, only 3nights there so looking to stay in liveliest area, any ideas??

Dundrum beat Aghaderg tonight in Ballyvarley to secure promotion to the new Division 2 for the 2013 season with 4 games to play.

Did they win well?
I assume McCommiskey was the star of the show again?
how down could have done with a player of his ability yesterday. I dont know what McCartan was playing at with him.

What are you talking about? it was his choice not to play for Down this year...

anybody know of a way to watch the match highlights online?? cant find it on bbc iplayer and rte.ie only seems to have last weeks sunday game...

Travelling through New York in October time, just staying for long weekend.. Any ideas of possible hotels/hostel to stay in? Myself and 3 other lads, so just looking for somewhere central and not too expensive if possible..

Where the f**k did we pull that from? What a result! Serious character in that team. Never thought they had it in them. Eoin and Dan cannot start next day out.

Dan isnt 100% fit, back problem, thats why he wasnt himself today!

any word on timmy hanna or darren o hagen? are they injured or not on the panel?

Rooney started as full back and captain in Ross Carr's first championship match, which finished in a draw away to Cavan in 2007. He did reasonably well that day, but was not as effective in the course of the replay and was eventually moved outfield. In his third game, against Monaghan in Newry, he was switched to the corner to mark Freeman with Brendan Grant at full back. By the stage of our fourth and final championship game that summer, at home to Meath in the qualifiers, Ross obviously did not fancy either Rooney or Grant at full back and very surprisingly put John Clarke there instead. It is possible that Rooney could be tried at no 3 again when he regains fitness, but he looks much more suited to the half back line. The truth is that we are lacking in natural defenders across a range of positions, and the full back dilemma is probably a symptom rather than the cause of our wider problems.

Id like to see Garvey at no.3, even tho his best position is in the half back line, we would have reasonable options there with mc kernan, doyle, hanna, quinn, mc parland, g mc cartan, d turley..

I listened to it on the radio, sounded tactical as they didnt mention an injury, but there were plenty of others that could have been taken off to..

4-11 to 0-08

How many times do Down have to be hammered by Cork.
McCartan has been destroyed and humiliated 3 times against Cork and still hasnt a clue what to do to defend against them. Maybe forget about your brother in the team for a start. Relegation is likely.
The Down fans that travelled to that game should be given their money back. disgrace.
Final score 4-11 to 0-10 according to Cork radio

Catch a grip, far too easy to blame Dan for this defeat.. Obviously changes are needed but to single him out is a joke.

1. B Mc Veigh

2. G Mc Cartan
3. C Garvey
4. D O'Hagan

5. D Rooney
6. L Doyle
7. T Hanna

8. P Turley
9. A Rodgers

10. D Hughes
11. D Gordan
12. K Mc Kernan

13. B Coulter
14. D O'Hare
15. M Poland

Team would be a brave bit different if everyone was available like clarke, mooney, d rafferty, l howard..

Two MOM performances in a row  from Dan in midfield.
How tiresome now are my posts about the folly of shifting him to full back?
He has his mojo back and we can go places.

he wasn't playing midfield today, he was hf. but I agree that he shouldn't be moved back into full back line... Good few options for defence still to come back into the team.. rooney, garvey, o'hagan, mc kernan, g mc cartan, hanna and fingers crossed d. rafferty. Id like to see garvey given a run at no.3, great footballer, very strong, reasonable quick and good under the high ball.... i know he would be a big loss from the half back line but there is plenty of cover for there.....

Im with DD on the Dan debate, its a very contentious issue with decent arguments on both sides.

I wouldnt agree that Dan was one of our greatest midfielders, long from it actually.  He would often take off great catches only to be smothered out of it when he came back to ground because of a lack of aggression.  He often flattered to deceive in that position being out of games for long periods yet earning rave reviews for a few great fetches. I actually think a fully fit Ambrose is a lot better alround midfielder than Dan.  If Ambrose had of been fit against Cork we would have won the all ireland imo.

Also think Dan has turned out to be pretty decent FB, better than any alternatives we have anyway.  Pete Turley mad add to these options this year given he was decent there under Ross.

On Eoin McCartan, very talented but how can he play for Down when he cant complete a full match for Burren??

Don't think anyone expects Eoin to complete a full match, think tomorrow is a rare occasion with him starting.. The reason why he is in the panel is to give an option from the bench, and I don't think there are many better options to play the last 15/20 Min's of a game.

While Ronan Murtagh has been a good servant to Down and has been selfless in his commitment (and certainly doesn't deserve the abuse on here) he didn't strike me as a player that was going to be on the starting 15 of a successful Down team. I think we have had 10 or 11 good county players over the last 5 years but have rarely had them all on the pitch at the same time.Clearly the best performance in that period was the defeat of Kerry yet we had some average players in the 18 or so players in that game.
Anyway, looking forward to the start of the post-MC era tomorrow- if it wasn't so early it would have even more cut to it- and surprised that James has gone for Gough from day one but (without wanting to re-open the FB debate again) I disagree with Leo about Dan- also; is Eoin Mc Cartan fit for an hour's football ?

Id say he will only play the 1st half of the game, then prob be changed... delighted for him to be starting, and hope he shuts a few critics up on this!