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Same could be said of smoking,alcohol etc.Sadly there will always be those unfortunates with addictive personalities

they shouldn't be allowed advertise at half time

Watching World cup matches on ITV was very interesting. All the gambling ads at half time- a huge change from a few years earlier.
And one quarter of premiership teams are sponsored by betting firms. Gamble responsibly is bullshit for those prone to addiction.

The Hebdo suspects have taken hostages in a printing works and someone that knew the ones that shot the policewoman has taken hostages in a supermarket. Lets hope it does not spread further.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30740115

I presume the authorities are monitoring all the known jihadis in France. You need popular support for an ongoing campaign and they probably don't have much.

One of the suspects was already jailed and released so I am sure he was being watched but he still managed to commit the crimes.

But they'll be looking much more closely now, surely.

The Hebdo suspects have taken hostages in a printing works and someone that knew the ones that shot the policewoman has taken hostages in a supermarket. Lets hope it does not spread further.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30740115

I presume the authorities are monitoring all the known jihadis in France. You need popular support for an ongoing campaign and they probably don't have much.

True NAG. It's a terrible situation, which is still unfolding. It's horrific when you think about it.

Imagine the families of the dead, trying to explain what happened and why to the kids. Dreadful.

Your pathetic comment on about the "precious prophet" shows your withering disregard for a religion of more than a billion people. Regardless of what you or I may think, the "prophet" (I don't know why you felt the need for inverted commas) is indeed precious to them.

This of course does not, nor is it an attempt to, justify the massacre in Paris. I don't expect you to pay any heed to this though and will shortly label me as an Islam extremist sympathiser to go with anti Semite and the usual baseless accusations you bandy about here.

The "precious prophet" comment clearly refers to the fact we are being told that Muhammad is above ridicule. You know full well that is what it meant as it was perfectly clear from the context of the sentence i.e that we subjugate all humour and cower in deference to this deity.

The only thing that is pathetic here is your willfully feigned outrage on behalf of a billion muslims.

Make a few jokes about the Holocaust if you think nothing is beyond satire and it's all a laugh.
You empty vessel.

No, we'll leave the holocaust jokes to your twisted ilk.

Why dont you tell us the lenny Bruce joke about killing jesus again...you like that one so much you have used it twice already 

I need a biographer- I'll pay you 25 cents an hour

Your pathetic comment on about the "precious prophet" shows your withering disregard for a religion of more than a billion people. Regardless of what you or I may think, the "prophet" (I don't know why you felt the need for inverted commas) is indeed precious to them.

This of course does not, nor is it an attempt to, justify the massacre in Paris. I don't expect you to pay any heed to this though and will shortly label me as an Islam extremist sympathiser to go with anti Semite and the usual baseless accusations you bandy about here.

The "precious prophet" comment clearly refers to the fact we are being told that Muhammad is above ridicule. You know full well that is what it meant as it was perfectly clear from the context of the sentence i.e that we subjugate all humour and cower in deference to this deity.

The only thing that is pathetic here is your willfully feigned outrage on behalf of a billion muslims.

Make a few jokes about the Holocaust if you think nothing is beyond satire and it's all a laugh.
You empty vessel.

Les flics seem to have cornered the killers 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/09/charlie-hebdo-manhunt-kouachi-terrorist-links-live-updates

"Your obvious need to find some reason to blame the US or the Jews for every Jihadi atrocity points at some deep seated prejudice.
How about, for once, unequivocally condemning an atrocity without feeling the need for thrash around for some "dirt" to pin  on the victims."

That is classic Sheehy.It would not be complete without the ritual demand for a condemnation even though it was already included.
Muppet is worse than the killers because of the depth of his hatred.
Jesus Christ. 

Ridiculing sacred cows is something we should embrace and protect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

Some topics are off limits. You wouldn't joke about child abuse, would you ?

Are you saying that ridiculing the prophet is off limits Seafoid ?

I don't think it's constructive. It aims to offend.
Any of us could take the piss out of a lot of Christian beliefs but what would be the point ? If people want to pray to St Dympna for migraine relief that is their business. If they feel better with a drop of holy water who are you to laugh at them ?

One of the things about the whole debate about "freedom of speech" is that it usually about the freedom to offend weaker groups. You'll never see anyone taking the piss out of Denis O Brien. The rich use the law to cover up nonsense aspects of themselves.

Laughing at Muslims is no better than English people laughing at Irish people in the 70s because they were ignorant.

Ridiculing sacred cows is something we should embrace and protect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

Some topics are off limits. You wouldn't joke about child abuse, would you ? 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/jan/08/oldham-athletic-unbearable-pressure-ched-evans-deal-football-video

Teaching the wains (7/8) today about Religious Symbols and respect for other religions. We were doing Islam and said their founder was Muhammad, and the wee lad said

'Is his second name Sasako?'

I put him out the door and took him in ten minutes later.

Innocent of youth.

No innocent of youth however with newspapers' constant satirical  views on Islam.

No dogs or Irish is now no dogs or Muslims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaIAzWW2zc

That song always reminds me of Frank McGuigan

The big question is how to sideline  ISIS. There has to be a regional solution and it has to be political, not just military.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/08669916-4412-11e4-baa7-00144feabdc0.html

"The Isis threat is greater than al-Qaeda, which spawned it. This breed of jihadis has set no limits to its violence, with calculated atrocities intended as a deliberate affront to everyone in its way. Isis is gorging on revanchist despair, mainly of Syria's Sunni majority, which has seen its rebellion drowned in blood by Bashar al-Assad's regime as the west stood by, and Iraq's Sunni minority, dispossessed by the US-led invasion of 2003, which brought sectarian leaders from the Shia majority to power.
Supporters of Isis are Sunni supremacists, exploiting the region-wide conflict between Sunni and Shia to accelerate the spiral of violence, and spread it into fragile neighbouring states such as Lebanon and Jordan, even Turkey and Saudi Arabia. A statement by the group this week gloated at the prospect of drawing the US and its allies into its lair.
Isis, moreover, is the first modern jihadi group successfully to spearhead a mass movement. Beyond the grievances of Sunni in Iraq and Syria, Isis is trying to spark underclass animosity among – and give identity to – the high proportion of Arabs who have been excluded by closed and corrupt systems. The heart of its narrative is that the Arab world is a collection of failed and rotting states.
As well as robust military action, therefore, any chance of success against Isis needs to find political formulas to short-circuit the hard-wiring of sectarianism and offer at least a glimmer of hope to dispel despair.

Militarily, air and missile strikes can at most hope to contain Isis, which is regrouping in its strongholds in eastern Syria and western Iraq. Dislodging these ranks will require local Sunni fighters on the ground, persuaded there is a real alternative to the jihadi juggernaut.

In the countries riven by ethno-sectarian faultlines, the need is for credible federal institutions resting on assured devolved power. Only institutionalised local power can create proxies for the sectarian and tribal laagers into which these societies have retreated. Equitable sharing of resources such as oil and gas might then have a chance of gluing central and devolved government together.
Detente between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran (whose foreign ministers met this week) is essential to start drawing the lethal sting of sectarianism. The Saudis and their allies need to look hard at the Wahhabi bigotry the kingdom still spews out, identical to the Isis message in essentials such as doctrinal anathemas against the Shia."

Saudi is a huge part of the problem.

"@realDonaldTrump: If the people so violently shot down in Paris had guns, at least they would have had a fighting chance."

The problem according to Donald Trump is the magazine staff weren't packing heat

Did the two police officers not have guns?

The policeman shot dead was just in the area because he d been there on other business. It depends what type of policeman he was. Some local municipal police do not carry firearms. That video would suggest he did not. He was still functional enough to use a weapon before he took the killer shot. But a sidearm is not much use anyway against lads with AK47s that know what they are doing. Unfortunately Trump may have a point. Especially if you are drawing cartoons of some prophet that a lot of people take seriously.
This is no surprise. These guys were dead men walking.
The Hawks in US loving this. Al Q, Janjaweed, Isis, Taliban, Boko Haram Hamas all seem to be behind this.
The reality could be a few lads operating alone as part of a much bigger picture of course.
Looks like they have 2 alive. Maybe we ll learn something.

The Yanks and their guns. A 2 year old shot dead his mother last week.
ISIS and the hawks are on the same side.  War is the only  acceptable deficit spending.