Premier League 20/21

Started by Hereiam, August 05, 2020, 01:57:06 PM

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sid waddell

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 09:59:47 PM
Zidane wasn't that much of a chilled out character when he head butted thon Italian dude!
He's Zen-edine Zidane now

Captain Obvious

Leeds deserved that draw and could have won. Manchester City going on this form won't be mounting a title challenge.

RedHand88

All Merseyside title race the year so.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 03, 2020, 07:39:30 PM
All Merseyside title race the year so.
Pickford will prove to be their Karius. The natural order of things will be returned by Christmas.

RedHand88

Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 03, 2020, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 03, 2020, 07:39:30 PM
All Merseyside title race the year so.
Pickford will prove to be their Karius. The natural order of things will be returned by Christmas.

Fair point. The man must have naked photos of Southgate.

Minus15

Frank Lampard's signings are Football Manager esque transfer business. Gossip column purchases under a manager who has so far not portrayed any capability as a manager in the Prem League. Media like him because he is English and his achievements as a player but that will soon fade. He has severe limitations and already his interviews are littered with excuses and 'appeal for time' style statements. He and Solksjaer are poor managers at this level and their teams do not play with any noticeable identity.

Compare this with what Arteta has done at Arsenal already in his short time there. There is a bit more going on in his brain with a vision and a plan of how to improve his players and his team.

Top 4 this season for me:
Liverpool
City
Arsenal
Leicester

Bronco

Arteta has done very little at Arsenal. Alienated their only decent creative player, repeatedly played Aubameyang out of position, and persisted with Luiz and Xhaka despite awful performances.

He shouldn't have got the job in the first place and has done nothing to justify his appointment.

Captain Obvious

Leicester 5-2 away winners against Manchester City last week and today lose 3-0 at home to West Ham.

dublin7

Quote from: Bronco on October 04, 2020, 11:13:44 AM
Arteta has done very little at Arsenal. Alienated their only decent creative player, repeatedly played Aubameyang out of position, and persisted with Luiz and Xhaka despite awful performances.

He shouldn't have got the job in the first place and has done nothing to justify his appointment.

Arteta has got them to some sort of defenseive competence with the players available to him and has put a bit of solidity in the team. They may have lost 3-1 to Liverpool last Monday, but they would have collapsed and lost by 5 or 6 if that was an Arsenal side in the last years of Wenger or Emery. Arteta's problem is he hasn't got the players to bring them on. Top 4 is a something to aim for this season.

Bronco

Defensive competence - are you joking? They've conceded in something like 8 out of their last 9 League games.

Milltown Row2

Pretty dominant display from Arsenal, should improve on last year's position
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

laoislad

Some top notch defending from Man United so far. Even their customary penalty not helping them today...
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

dublin7

Quote from: Bronco on October 04, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Defensive competence - are you joking? They've conceded in something like 8 out of their last 9 League games.

It's a new season  and even though it's only 4 games in they are clearly going in the right direction. They have a clear system of play that may be limited, but that's more to do with the quality of players he has available to pick from.

Compare that to the shambles at Man Utd right now, who are trying to sign a right winger even though they haven't got a decent centre half at the club and no clear game plan going forward against defensive teams.  Arsenal will probably finish above Utd this season based on the current situation

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Minus15 on October 04, 2020, 10:31:28 AM
Frank Lampard's signings are Football Manager esque transfer business. Gossip column purchases under a manager who has so far not portrayed any capability as a manager in the Prem League. Media like him because he is English and his achievements as a player but that will soon fade. He has severe limitations and already his interviews are littered with excuses and 'appeal for time' style statements. He and Solksjaer are poor managers at this level and their teams do not play with any noticeable identity.

Compare this with what Arteta has done at Arsenal already in his short time there. There is a bit more going on in his brain with a vision and a plan of how to improve his players and his team.

Top 4 this season for me:
Liverpool
City
Arsenal
Leicester

What Lampard did at Chelsea last year deserves great credit, a 4th place finish when some had speculated as low as 10th. He's only in his 3rd full season of management. Unfair to compare him to Ole, who has been a manager for many years at this stage.

If Lampard doesn't improve on 4th this year, he'll be sacked, he knows that. That's how Chelsea operate.

mrdeeds

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on October 04, 2020, 06:50:13 PM
Quote from: Minus15 on October 04, 2020, 10:31:28 AM
Frank Lampard's signings are Football Manager esque transfer business. Gossip column purchases under a manager who has so far not portrayed any capability as a manager in the Prem League. Media like him because he is English and his achievements as a player but that will soon fade. He has severe limitations and already his interviews are littered with excuses and 'appeal for time' style statements. He and Solksjaer are poor managers at this level and their teams do not play with any noticeable identity.

Compare this with what Arteta has done at Arsenal already in his short time there. There is a bit more going on in his brain with a vision and a plan of how to improve his players and his team.

Top 4 this season for me:
Liverpool
City
Arsenal
Leicester

What Lampard did at Chelsea last year deserves great credit, a 4th place finish when some had speculated as low as 10th. He's only in his 3rd full season of management. Unfair to compare him to Ole, who has been a manager for many years at this stage.

If Lampard doesn't improve on 4th this year, he'll be sacked, he knows that. That's how Chelsea operate.

He brought Chelsea from 3rd to 4th and won nothing unlike his predecessor. And yet he's lauded.