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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: May 14, 2021, 11:02:15 AM »
United have played a fair bit more football then Liverpool in recent weeks and United have nothing to play for except for pride; I wouldn't be getting too carried away over analysing last night's performance.

United conceding goals from set pieces continues to be a problem and we all know unless United buy at least 2 top players this summer we're not good enough to mount a realistic challenge for the title.

Thatís a soft take and maybe shows where the modern player is. Playing Liverpool at home in a game at end of season that effectively knocks them out of next season CL, a few days after losing and giving your neighbours at title, all be one that was a done deal.

Pride? Was much more than that on the line. A Fergie team would have been foaming at the mouth to put them to sword and Liverpool with two rookie centre backs and hardly a player on the bench bar Mane.

No wonder the team is soft, fans gone soft too.

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Roll out and impact itís shown here, UK and round the world shows how important it is.

Mind boggles that people still donít want to take it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 04:33:46 PM »
Yeah, sure thing.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The Wolf of GaaBoard.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: May 13, 2021, 04:14:37 PM »
Leitrim GAA unveiled a New Jersey this week with Say no to Racism as the logo on jersey. A great initiative which includes the migrants rights centre logo. Fair play.

Now Gript and John McGuirk are having at a go at this on basis that MRCI is a left wing organisation and this breaches the GAA status as been non political.

And some guys give these a listen and think they a peopleís voice. Just racism dressed up with far right ideals at the centre of them.

Let me get this right (no pun intended) but if you care that migrants have rights you can only be a left wing organisation?

Did anyone in the GAA tell them to fķck right off yet?

Basically yes, No to racism message from a migrant rights body is a political message and not about other humans.

Iíd say Leitrim could be thrown out of the championship when the penny drops. Liberal Leitrim.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 04:05:13 PM »
You constantly repeat the same few figures that have been easily dismissed above.

Financial analysis isnít looking at 1 figure at 1 moment in time - you have to look at trends, source of funds, liquidity of current assets, ageing, comparatives to same sector, markets etc etc.

Maybe you should ring Tom Ryan and tell him he is cash rich, heíd be delighted to hear that when he gets off the floor laughing.

The have slashed capital grants, games development grants, amended the players injury scheme, reduced number of games, put staff on PUP, required Gov grants to allow Intercounty games to go ahead, facing future reduced income from games plus income from renewal of corporate and ten years seats will be pushed out by 2 years, but they are cash rich.

Them Apple and Microsoft. All the one.

If you ran a bank youíd make the Last financial crisis look like speed bump.

More waffle and no metrics.

Financial analysis always has to be backed up by figures and that's why I took great pleasure when you let your ego run wild and started waffling on about something you don't even possess the most basic of knowledge about.

The GAA are a cash rich organisation. Their balance sheet confirms that. I have put the metrics up which substantiate that and you have provided the most incoherent gibberish any functioing adult would be humiliated by having their name associated with.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Youíve done nothing of the sort bar repeating 3 figures over and over and over and over and over again.

Leprechaun economics.

Yes, the fact that you can't the importance understand liquidity ratios when it comes to assessing a company or organisation's cash status is part of the reason you are digging a hole for yourself in front of the whole forum.

You're the one arguing the GAA aren't a cash rich organisation. You're doing so without any financial evidence and dismissing one of the most regularly used measurements of a company's liquidity.

But apparently you know what you are talking about here.

Incredible, absolutely incredible stupidity you are displaying. You'd be some hoot in front a powerpoint assessing a company's financial performance.

 ;D ;D ;D :D :D Comical Ali of the financial world

Leprechaun Economics

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 03:41:21 PM »
You constantly repeat the same few figures that have been easily dismissed above.

Financial analysis isnít looking at 1 figure at 1 moment in time - you have to look at trends, source of funds, liquidity of current assets, ageing, comparatives to same sector, markets etc etc.

Maybe you should ring Tom Ryan and tell him he is cash rich, heíd be delighted to hear that when he gets off the floor laughing.

The have slashed capital grants, games development grants, amended the players injury scheme, reduced number of games, put staff on PUP, required Gov grants to allow Intercounty games to go ahead, facing future reduced income from games plus income from renewal of corporate and ten years seats will be pushed out by 2 years, but they are cash rich.

Them Apple and Microsoft. All the one.

If you ran a bank youíd make the Last financial crisis look like speed bump.

More waffle and no metrics.

Financial analysis always has to be backed up by figures and that's why I took great pleasure when you let your ego run wild and started waffling on about something you don't even possess the most basic of knowledge about.

The GAA are a cash rich organisation. Their balance sheet confirms that. I have put the metrics up which substantiate that and you have provided the most incoherent gibberish any functioing adult would be humiliated by having their name associated with.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Youíve done nothing of the sort bar repeating 3 figures over and over and over and over and over again.

Leprechaun economics.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 03:31:46 PM »
You constantly repeat the same few figures that have been easily dismissed above.

Financial analysis isnít looking at 1 figure at 1 moment in time - you have to look at trends, source of funds, liquidity of current assets, ageing, comparatives to same sector, markets etc etc.

Maybe you should ring Tom Ryan and tell him he is cash rich, heíd be delighted to hear that when he gets off the floor laughing.

The have slashed capital grants, games development grants, amended the players injury scheme, reduced number of games, put staff on PUP, required Gov grants to allow Intercounty games to go ahead, facing future reduced income from games plus income from renewal of corporate and ten years seats will be pushed out by 2 years, but they are cash rich.

Them Apple and Microsoft. All the one.

If you ran a bank youíd make the Last financial crisis look like speed bump.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 02:50:22 PM »
Again, you are considering that they will return to a surplus this year, ignoring the past trading report and not considering cash flows and projections as part of the going concern concept. They lost 34m in 2020 and looking like that again. Thatís lot of cash burning up and going out the door. They relied heavily on Gov intervention in 2020.

Iím fed up trying to talk sense to a lamppost.

Hereís what they had to say themselves

https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-report-deficit-of-34-1m-in-2020-financial-results/

I'm not talking about profits and losses here. I'm talking about cash rich.

The GAA's cash position actually improved last year from 37m to 53m.

It's clear you haven't the first notion of what you're waffling about here.

You offered no metric whatsover, only bluster.

Anyone who denies the GAA are cash rich doesn't know that they are talking about. Their financial statements confirm it and any qualified financial expert or accountant would tell you that.

This is genuinely the worst take Iíve ever come across. You talk like you know stuff but repeating the same point over and over again, ignoring the noise round you doesnít make it right.

You should get a job on Wall Street and tell these organisations that they wasting their time on regulators and auditors, just announce how much in the bank at the year end and thatíll do rightly.

Any business can be cash rich if they ignore their liabilities and outgoings knwoning that their incomings are drying up.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 02:31:36 PM »
Again, you are considering that they will return to a surplus this year, ignoring the past trading report and not considering cash flows and projections as part of the going concern concept. They lost 34m in 2020 and looking like that again. Thatís lot of cash burning up and going out the door. They relied heavily on Gov intervention in 2020.

Iím fed up trying to talk sense to a lamppost.

Hereís what they had to say themselves

https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-report-deficit-of-34-1m-in-2020-financial-results/

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: May 13, 2021, 02:21:47 PM »
Leitrim GAA unveiled a New Jersey this week with Say no to Racism as the logo on jersey. A great initiative which includes the migrants rights centre logo. Fair play.

Now Gript and John McGuirk are having at a go at this on basis that MRCI is a left wing organisation and this breaches the GAA status as been non political.

And some guys give these a listen and think they a peopleís voice. Just racism dressed up with far right ideals at the centre of them.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 02:06:47 PM »
You are so wrong itís funny. Iíd love to see you sitting behind a desk if I came looking for a loan.

If you making an argument on reserves of Ä110m when this includes Ä140m of land, bricks and mortor then god help you.

Listen, dullard.

You are the guy saying that an organisation with 53m cash, sitting in a bank is not cash risk.

That is as idiotic as it gets.

I'm making an argument on reserves as it shows the net position of the organisation. An organisation that has 110m more assets than its liabilities, 53m of which is cash, in a bank account that can be put to use at a seconds notice.

This is all obvious and it's incredible that you actually can't see how stupid your argument. And it's frankly flabbergasting the arrogance you must have to truly believe you are right here when any accountant or financial expert would laugh their hole off at you about the stupidity of your statement.

Meanwhile your contention is that a organisation with net assets of 110m, with cash in a bank of 53m should not foot this bill but the govt should.

The govt who have a national debt of 250bn, a housing crisis crying out for capital investment, a health crisis crying out for investment in the public system via way of medical staff and facilities.

It's clear you haven't a notion what you're talking about but continue to show yourself for a guy who has zero common sense and a massive ego to top it off.

Sweet Lord Jesus, the most basic explanations have been offered to you and you still canít differentiate between net assets, reserves and cash in the back.

Give it up, youíve totally embarrassed yourself here and the above makes absolutely no sense at all. You canít grasp or understand the most basic accounting concepts going.

Simply the reserves arenít liquid or cash. Itís bricks. That is as simple as it gets ďdullardĒ.

And I never mentioned footing any bill or grants or government etc. I just contested that the GAA arenít a cash rich organisation at present and with the future outlook.

But for the record Iíve always said the GAA should be carrying its own costs and have never agreed with these grants from GPA driven agenda been paid by Gov.

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Show me war where there are no innocent victims?  Show me a conflict where there are no mistakes? Every war has to also be seen in the context of what is happening around the world and the various different Governments that are ruling. I firmly believe if Labour had been more competent in the early 80ís and prevented Thatcher from getting back to back victories there would have been an earlier end to the Troubles. Thatcher ramped it up and this re-radicalised an awful lot of young men to go harder again. The hunger strikes then coupled with army policy in the ground, and the underlying sectarian nature of the rule of law in the North ensured that there was a catholic/nationalist/republican community who actively or passively kept the fight going. Thatcher was dividing England at the time also between the working class and the upper class so NI was an afterthought. Thatcherism was a big contributor to the bombing campaign of the 80ís and 90ís as it was the only way to get them to the table. Hit them in their heart lands, like Canary Wharf, then they will have to talk.

Was it right? In my opinion, it was inevitable and if there were innocent victims that was wrong but the Government would not come to the table unless their own people were really being targeted. Such is the way of war. Horrible, dirty, nasty, vicious, wicked, but no different to any war that was ever fought.

On the comments on Labour, on other side of Atlantic when the peace talks did come about the US and Clinton played a masssive part.

If JFK had of stayed in power in the era when the sectarian violence was going to different level and then the army was sent across, do you think that internationally there may have been more influence onto UK in those days. Was always the chance that Robert may have followed him into the White House and with their influence and Irish connections may more have been done?

America also faced into Vietnam at this time so focus may not have been there too.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Division one 2021
« on: May 13, 2021, 01:18:19 PM »
Div1 me hole. Division 4 is where itís at.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Grants Again
« on: May 13, 2021, 12:17:28 PM »
You are so wrong itís funny. Iíd love to see you sitting behind a desk if I came looking for a loan.

If you making an argument on reserves of Ä110m when this includes Ä140m of land, bricks and mortor then god help you.

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The last post sums it up really. In any walk of life, a border can be difference in night and day. We lived not on border but close enough, lot moved into our area to either flee the North or flee authorities. That was our main interaction in the troubles unless you ventured north.

The 60s, 70s and 80s you where led the six news and print media. There was little other news sources bar word of mouth. But peopleís motives in south very different to those in North. Everyone had their own battles - employment, housing, emigration and all that came with those. Religion was so dominate, politics even in the 26 was so hostile and attritional. People in Wexford, Longford, Clare where far removed from what was happening up North as an example. Is it their own fault? Or the way things where at the time? Can you drill it down to an individual narrative where own needs dominated their thoughts and actions or a collective will driven at national media and those in political power.

In that age the war of independence was still very raw and families still labelled each other for which side their relatives had taken.

I donít think it was a decision taken to ignore what was happening up North but that on a day to day basis, people had their own battles to fight. We can still see the fall out from those times with the church scandals.

Politically, yes, greater efforts could be done. A country that was still finding its feet and stumbling from one economic crisis to another and viewed very much as a political back water on international stage may have had limited influence but should have sought it out.

The 90s saw a much more confident 26 with growing international standing and I donít think it can be denied that this influence helped bring about peace and the GFA. Also, into the 2000s people can find their own news sources and much more open in delivering and receiving unbiased and factual news without agendas or influence. People more able to make their own minds up. In more recent times this has gone other way, where people are driven to extremes with fake news, a term I donít like but is their another name for it.

Over the years, I donít think their is a conscious decision to ignore or judge what has happened up North. What happened done here 100 years ago took along time to heal and has been painted as a glorious episode in history when it was far from it and took generations to heal rifts in communities and between families.

There is a lot of wind up posts here and on other threads. But you canít ignore the reality of what was endured daily by many up north and those that paid ultimate cost. BC1 post is very real.

Waterford Whispers can be very funny but rarely do they miss and itís satire at its best. Their headline is very reflective of the modern age ďget on with itĒ. Every thing is instant and entitlement. People care more about themselves than at any other time in history, because they have so much. A 30 year old would have no concept of what the troubles was like. Is it their fault?

Sinn Fein have greatly benefited from this as the baggage that FF and FG like to throw at them (which isnít naive at best and politically a poor strategy) means nothing to a lot of the 20-40 year old voters. They see very little of relevance to them if the past.

Raffling a bit but basically this isnít a straightforward topic with many sides and outcomes.

As they say History looks favourably on the winner. Thatís why maybe the 1916 to 1920s is remembered romantically by many in the 26 and with no victor, if that is right phrase, in 6 history has not decided what way itíll be written yet.

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