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#16
GAA Discussion / Re: Warm Weather Training Camps
March 10, 2024, 02:29:24 PM
Harte loved Carlton house for the old Tyrone getaways.... Up until it changed hands that is.
#17
For anyone reading this not familiar with Belfast. The "Glider" is a bus and we're discussing can the bus stop outside Casement park.

<exhales loudly>

#18
Quote from: johnnycool on March 08, 2024, 02:23:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 07, 2024, 08:30:34 PM1. The Brits are not going to top up the funding for the sake of 4 matches imo.

2. The IFA is one of the key institutions of partition but is very weak at the moment. I didn't realise how poor it was.

3. This is about ideology versus money. Partition and sectarianism are stupid. Refusing to play in Casement might be consistent but it would also be stupid.

This must be the first time on the North, assuming that Casement goes ahead, that the Croppies have superior infrastructure to the chosen people. That is why it is so interesting. Usually culture war participants don't turn up.their noses at money.



Let's see

The IFA allowed themselves to be rode bareback by Linfield at the time of the Windsor stadium redevelopment, so much so other clubs kicked up a stink, none more so that Crusaders who got a free pitch because of it.

Linfield get a lot of the matchday profits when it comes to NI internationals.

A new Casement would allow them to generate more money, IF they can do a deal with Ulster GAA, but that may be part of the extra funding from Westminster which CHH is indeed on record as saying that the money would be found.


I can't see the IFA using Casement post Euros. Even just consider all the imagery that will be in situ as GAA ground. Are you suggesting that will be replaced at the time of a possible NI game. This idea is pie in sky.

The IFA also have a 51 year agreement with Linfield in regards to Windsor park.
#19
Dublin
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Kerry
Mayo

Cavan
Donegal
Meath
Louth

Wicklow
Clare
Offaly
Westmeath

London
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Longford v Carlow -DRAW
#20
Quote from: seafoid on March 08, 2024, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 08, 2024, 11:39:52 AMIf the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.
Clones was redeveloped in the early 90s for £4.5 million. Even if you treble that for cost inflation it's less than £15m. £65m would still buy a decent pure GAA stadium but there wouldn't be any premium level.

The full monty Casement would be much better, obviously.

If it was built would the soccer crowd demand the same for their sport or would logic prevail?
Of course it's the North where reality is suspended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnJM_jC7j_4

Just stop. You don't know what you are talking about. You cannot seem to read any of the points that have been made ad Infinium on this thread in relation to "a pure GAA stadium" "Clones" and "the soccer crowd".

#21
Quote from: Rossfan on March 08, 2024, 11:39:52 AMIf the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

f**k off
#22
Quote from: JoG2 on March 08, 2024, 09:57:47 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 08, 2024, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2024, 07:04:43 PMMike Tyson vs Jake paul :o

Boxing has become a complete farce. I know strange bouts happened years ago too but that is all we seem to be getting now.

Beyond a farce.. The fact that Fury still holds a belt, he's fought 1 boxer in a defence bout in 2 years, Derek Chisora, says it all.

I believe this Jake Paul chap called out Canelo during the week  ;D

Comedy sport now. No credibility at all.
#23
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
March 08, 2024, 10:41:02 AM
Paul Givan IRA
Emma Little Pengelly IRA
Edwin Poots IRA

Hats off to the DUP. They are playing a blinder. No missteps at all.
#24
It's sad that a great nation such as the USA has given its people a choice between Trump and Biden. Like how on earth did it come down to these two.
#25
Quote from: seafoid on March 07, 2024, 08:30:34 PM1. The Brits are not going to top up the funding for the sake of 4 matches imo.

2. The IFA is one of the key institutions of partition but is very weak at the moment. I didn't realise how poor it was.

3. This is about ideology versus money. Partition and sectarianism are stupid. Refusing to play in Casement might be consistent but it would also be stupid.

This must be the first time on the North, assuming that Casement goes ahead, that the Croppies have superior infrastructure to the chosen people. That is why it is so interesting. Usually culture war participants don't turn up.their noses at money.



Let's see

My eyes bleed when I read this f**king shit.
#26
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
March 07, 2024, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on March 07, 2024, 11:16:10 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 07, 2024, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on March 07, 2024, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: God14 on March 07, 2024, 08:38:43 AMnot disagreeing with either points

but in the case of Cookstown, is it not a case they have looked at neighbouring towns such as Dungannon, Magherafelt and Omagh - and made a bigger effort as a club to replicate the successful strategies employed there?

Id be passing magherafelt pitch quite alot, its on a busy road. The work going on in that club is fantastic, the pitch is stacked with young kids all the time. Its no surprise that they are bearing the fruit of that at senior level. Every Derry underage side, and the big schools are benefitting of the work Magherafelt are doing. Cookstown rightly should be trying to emulate that

I think your post is missing the point. Magherafelt is stacked with young kids because they have a growing town population, which in turn creates a strong underage and eventually will create a strong senior team, if nurtured correctly. Yes, Cookstown will see that and try to replicate same - But this still doesn't solve the problem of decreasing rural numbers.

In North/West Tyrone, which is probably worst hit:

  • Take Clan NaGael for example - They were in division 1/1A/1B for the guts of 10-15 years, with a senior championship semi-final in 2006. They are now languishing in the bottom half of division 3 and youth football amalgamated with Craigbane in Derry just to field.
  • Gortin (1980s/1990s/2000s) and Greencastle (2010s) were notable senior sides, with Gortin even competing in a Senior Championship final in 1985. Rural depopulation/emigration has meant those clubs have been mostly division 2 over past number of years, with Gortin also amalgamating with Glenelly at underage level.
  • Newtownstewart and Dregish merged/amalgamated at youth and senior level.
  • Urney won an intermediate championship to reach senior football approx 2014, but now languish in the lower half of division 3 with no real prospects of promotion.

Do we ease the parish boundaries rule? Do we allow a transfer market of some kind allowing players to move from a club with larger numbers to a club with smaller numbers? This benefits the player getting football, and helps the player get more game time.


It is an issue but are stricter planning rules at the heart of this? A few one off dwellings are not going to turn the fortunes of any of those clubs around. In most cases there is a village at the hub and development would be permitted IF there was demand.

i 100% agree, one-off dwellings are not enough to sustain a club as can be seen with rural clubs now. Stricter planning policies are a major contributing factor. Planning policies were changed last year and restrict building in rural villages. They talk about the "need" for housing and "commitments" they have made to historic approvals, but where have these numbers been taken from? Who have they consulted? It certainly isnt the local people as i know many villages are crying out for new developments but restricted by planning and lack of NI Water infrastructure.

Ive said it on this forum before, we need the help of our councillors and county committee to help the plight of smaller clubs, rather than be just happy to see bigger town clubs get stronger.

Sure what is there to keep people in Gortin or Urney or Dregish. Young people want more outta life. Bright lights, better jobs and opportunities always gonna pull people away from those places. Tough one but those clubs deserve a medal getting teams out week in, week out.
#27
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 07, 2024, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: Mad Mentor on March 07, 2024, 02:36:13 PMI notice from the fly through there are no 65m lines on the pitch. Gotta say it looks good though.
Aye it does look class but it would need to when you hear the budget. Didn't notice anything re. corporate boxes but it way my understanding that these would be in place as a moneyspinner.

There's like a middle tier and I'd imagine they'll be in there. I'd buy 2 premium tickets for sure.
#28
GAA Discussion / Re: Warm Weather Training Camps
March 07, 2024, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 07, 2024, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 07, 2024, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on March 07, 2024, 11:08:19 AMhow they getting time off work

They book it as annual leave??

Even the self employed lads?

There'll not be a wall drylined for a week.
#29
GAA Discussion / Re: Warm Weather Training Camps
March 07, 2024, 01:45:15 PM
It's not a holiday. It will be training sessions, recovery, video work and with Harte probably lots of Mass.

Warm weather is brilliant for working on shape and set plays. Boys aren't foundered watching. You can set up plays and the likes and do walk throughs. Stuff that is harder to do when it's blowing a gale and maybe you only need 6 or 7 in at anytime and rest are standing watching getting soaked.

#30
GAA Discussion / Re: Warm Weather Training Camps
March 06, 2024, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: les Antiques on March 06, 2024, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 06, 2024, 11:29:09 AMThink Armagh started that trend in 02 and any of the lads would say it was beneficial that time.

With the sacrifices and effort county players put in these days I wouldn't begrudge them a few days away, be a great experience- enjoyable and would imagine beneficial tactics wise as well.


Lol fairly sure Armagh didn't start the trend in 2002...
I recall many inter county teams heading away for training camps in the 1990s . Perhaps not as advertised as it now but it was fairly common .

Armagh invented training.