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« Reply #21210 on: July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM »
Unfortunately we didnít have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising. 

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« Reply #21211 on: July 21, 2021, 11:44:23 PM »
That minor result tonight should lead to a lot of hard questions. Our minor lads as a whole are certainly not 26 points behind Donegal. Something is badly wrong there.

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« Reply #21212 on: July 21, 2021, 11:58:08 PM »
Unfortunately we didnít have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #21213 on: July 22, 2021, 08:55:50 AM »
That's an embarrassment to the county. 26 points defeat in an under 17 game. Shocking stuff. What is going on at juvenile level, anything?? This cannot just be brushed under the nearest carpet. Shocking!

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« Reply #21214 on: July 22, 2021, 08:59:53 AM »
The u20s wasn't good either tbh.

It's the same in the hurling. We can't expect to get well beaten year on year and then suddenly be competitive with the same players

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« Reply #21215 on: July 22, 2021, 09:13:12 AM »
What's going to happen though ITG. Raging at this, totally shocked beyond words. This needs to be the catalyst for something better or we are looking at another 50 years of underperformance.  Here we go again.....

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« Reply #21216 on: July 22, 2021, 09:39:35 AM »
The seniors this year have done well both codes - though maybe disappointing in the end up in hurling - but our underage hasn't been good.

We can't expect to be anywhere near the top level in either if we don't sort this out. We really should be better than this I would have thought.

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« Reply #21217 on: July 22, 2021, 10:46:56 AM »
This won't be a surprise to anyone who has been around juvenille football in Antrim for a reasonable number of years

The whole setup is in the dark ages relative to the vast majority of progressive counties.

We have had a few bright spots most noteably last year's U20 and the same group @ Minor.

Unfortunately the leadership is not there to create the culture and environment required to develop the conveyor belt of Good rounded footballers capable of competing at inter County level.

It is the whole process and structure that is broken not just the final years @ U17 & U20

To move forward and be competitive in a Senior context this really needs a total Reset and not a patch up.

We may get the odd bright spot where we get lucky with a group of players, a good coaching setup gets real buy in or a school does really well but that seems to be the way of it .....

Hope to get lucky


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« Reply #21218 on: July 22, 2021, 10:50:46 AM »
The u20s wasn't good either tbh.

It's the same in the hurling. We can't expect to get well beaten year on year and then suddenly be competitive with the same players

I was told that Conor Stewart, Pat Shivers & Sean O Neill weren't playing in the u20 game. Thats three v good players missing. It does add perspective to the result.


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« Reply #21219 on: July 22, 2021, 01:01:56 PM »
Unfortunately we didnít have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, youíre getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.

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« Reply #21220 on: July 22, 2021, 01:20:48 PM »
Unfortunately we didnít have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, youíre getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.

Not you in the slightest was my post aimed at, youíve reasonably put across many a decent debate with no major axe to grind over the years
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #21221 on: July 22, 2021, 01:36:14 PM »
Unfortunately we didnít have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, youíre getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.

Not you in the slightest was my post aimed at, youíve reasonably put across many a decent debate with no major axe to grind over the years
Spot on.  Sorry, I picked you up wrong.

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« Reply #21222 on: July 22, 2021, 02:29:34 PM »
Whatís the solution to the Minor/Development squad problems? Weíre all quick to be Ďragingí or question structures letís provide practical solutions and speak to the people in charge to see if you can influence change rather than complain. If youíre not part of the solution youíre part of the problem.

Letís not forget our seniors were beaten by 14 points in the championship, but a moral victory hailed all round.

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« Reply #21223 on: July 22, 2021, 03:43:36 PM »
Whatís the solution to the Minor/Development squad problems? Weíre all quick to be Ďragingí or question structures letís provide practical solutions and speak to the people in charge to see if you can influence change rather than complain. If youíre not part of the solution youíre part of the problem.

Letís not forget our seniors were beaten by 14 points in the championship, but a moral victory hailed all round.

Schools have been the focus of Gaelfast, but at primary level so far in most parts, the wider problem Antrim has is developing better schools football in all grades, been lucky enough over the years to referee all levels of college football, the kids are properly developed in S&C and the level of football that they play is a far greater standard to what we have been used to seeing at those levels..

I've no problem in saying that we will have better county teams if we could have better development of the college game, these players progressing onto their club senior team and moving then onto the county set will bring another level to the what we have been used too, this needs to be done consistently over 10/20 years, which has been the case in Tyrone/Derry/Armagh/Fermanagh/Down... Cant remember the last entry we had at McRory cup level
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« Reply #21224 on: July 22, 2021, 06:16:04 PM »
Whatís the solution to the Minor/Development squad problems? Weíre all quick to be Ďragingí or question structures letís provide practical solutions and speak to the people in charge to see if you can influence change rather than complain. If youíre not part of the solution youíre part of the problem.

Letís not forget our seniors were beaten by 14 points in the championship, but a moral victory hailed all round.

Schools have been the focus of Gaelfast, but at primary level so far in most parts, the wider problem Antrim has is developing better schools football in all grades, been lucky enough over the years to referee all levels of college football, the kids are properly developed in S&C and the level of football that they play is a far greater standard to what we have been used to seeing at those levels..

I've no problem in saying that we will have better county teams if we could have better development of the college game, these players progressing onto their club senior team and moving then onto the county set will bring another level to the what we have been used too, this needs to be done consistently over 10/20 years, which has been the case in Tyrone/Derry/Armagh/Fermanagh/Down... Cant remember the last entry we had at McRory cup level
4 years ago maybe?

Over a sustained period or a one off after winning the competition below it? My point is we need to be at that level over many years. Be that with an amalgamation of schools or two, schools from city and country
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)