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Oso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.

Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

We aren't talking about the same thing. You're referring to Glen player's taking on shots under pressure from areas they might not normally shoot from and about guys taking on the shots who aren't the reliable shooters.  I call that smart defence on cargin's part.

I'm referring to Cargin missing scoreable frees and possibly still being on par going in at HT a man down.

Cargin scored twice from play. Shivers had 2 frees that he should have nailed. Glen left another 5 easy scores from very kickable positions in the first half alone. It was a 4 point hammering.
Cargin just didn't show enough ambition going forward to win any of the two games. It was all about containment

Four point hammering you say and yet  you feel the need to come on here and explain it, you don't think O Rourke would have liked to hammer Cargin last year and this year and would of done so if he could, like he did to Mfelt, Bellaghy and every other Derry team in the last 2-3 years?
Go and enjoy your victory and with the sort of protection Glen are getting from officials you will walk to an All Ireland title.

We will head up to Celtic Park along with our SW neighbours Glenravel (who we will be fully behind) and fly the flag for Antrim, hopefully we do it well!!

Cargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

No way Cargin will try and play everyone behind the ball and slow the game down back and across the pitch? They just wouldn't do that! They play the game as it is supposed to be played. They wouldn't revert to those sort of tactics.

MR2 had to have a couple of bites of the cherry to get a response on that one. And still didn't lol

They will have to or Glen will destroy them with the running game

No chance! Cargin just wouldn't do that. They'll play their swash buckling man to man game like they 'always do'. You won't see those boys with 13 or 14 men in their own defence. no way!

Yawn yawn, yet another salty / sarcy post from the jealous St Brigids man.

I read somewhere a Cavan division 1 team is playing in the Ulster Junior Champ so I think these results can get skewed in many ways.

Belfast Live have an article online today about Antrim calling up one of the former Lavey Downey lads. Notably hes probably the only one of them that has zero chance of being called up by Derry. This must where we are at, which is fine.

Difficult to judge exactly where Glen are at the moment but they have been very professional to date.  Blew Magherafelt away in that 2nd half yesterday and they have a serious amount of men who can score. 

The Derry championship is in a worse state than I had previously thought.  Glen's brilliance has taken the eye away from how badly the other teams have slipped down.     

Agreed, and Glenullin looks like a very winnable game for Con Magees

Despite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻

Despite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻

Several other people commented, do you think you live rent free in every clubs head? Welcome to planet St Brigids lol

I think you've managed to entirely miss the point.

The point being a club has plenty of players and a sanctioned player from another club is playing for them?

I'm not sure it's a big thing, they haven't done anything wrong. Change the rules. The ethnical side of things seems to be what's annoying people, and strangely from someone whose club pays managers!

Your boys have an ad up on Facebook looking a manager, good luck getting one for nothing lol

It's just you said you'd ask it before the game.

Regardless, I would have thought that rules are applied as the referee saw it, not how an individual player judges it on an ad hoc basis.

It's problematic in that the rule is being applied inconsistently throughout the game, depending on how each captain wants (either before or during) it at any given time, if the captain is even within range of delivering that message to the referee.

You have another 14 players on the pitch who might not agree, subs, management and supporters. The referee isn't able to explain to all of these people that the captain called it. Next thing they're going mental that identical infractions have 2 totally different decisions given. I also wouldn't trust captains to back you and claim that they said fcuk all.

I think the referee should be calling all the shots and applying every rule consistently for both teams.

But, I'm not a referee.

I think the last line says it all

I've never had any hassle with it nor lose sleep over it. I suppose you could look for hassles with it. But not every captain or player will 'ask' for the free, but if you're ever on the pitch these calls are are called all the time. Ultimately it's the referee to decide within that 5 seconds to decide.

I'm experienced enough from lots of different positions to judge what I think is best, and stand over it, but happy to give 30 yard frees if a player deliberately drops ball or kicks a wide within the 5 seconds.

The rule book has always been open for interpretation. Your beef as you have said is with the rules.

Everyone sees it different I didn't see or notice any faults in the refereeing on Thursday night, was more concerned about the St Brigids social media operator, seems to have went AWOL with ten mins to go 

Cargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..

Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.

What about Ulster Club Champions too? Or even beating Glen? Now that would be some finish to your year.

Glen not there yet Ck, but yes beating whoever it is who would be great

Cargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..

Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.

The u19 finals are upon us; tonight at Dunsilly Naomh Brid v Cargin in the 'A', hope the weather holds and we get a good game. B final on Sunday, LD v Glenravel, also Dunsilly.

Hoping for a good game too Brendan. Your boys will be strong favourites with no distractions of players being tied with seniors. Hopefully we cans still make it competitive.
Suprised Glenravel in the B, their u17s had been strong in previous two seasons.

Andy Mc will be quietly content with the draw Antrim got, winnable.

 

Although Glen are hot favourites I've heard a couple of people express the view that Magherafelt might put it up to them.

It's been a long year for Glen, the run to the club final before their county players were straight back up and at it, and they haven't stopped since. Some day they will climb one mountain too many, just a question of when that will be.

Cargin have the blend now,as you say, great mix of legs and experience, and unlike last year will be very fresh going into this. Where that takes them time will tell, but all things considered youde expect them to be going into this in far better shape than last year.

Twill be an interesting few months ahead.

Strangely Glen only have a couple of county players BS so in fairness it's been a long season for Glass and Doherty, McFaul was well rested before he came back.
Glen will be aiming for revenge against Kilmacud but theyv a few obstacles to cross before they play the Dublin men again.
Someone mentioned Morgan from St Brogids, he was definitely asked into county senior setup recently.

Aye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?

Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.