Fair enough but I'd suggest neither the Abbey or St Colmans benefit hugely at post 16 from new blood and anyway when did secondary school education start at 16? The fact is schools like St Paul's are now making an impact because they don't see themselves as elite. Down football can't depend on the old establishment any more. Times have changed and if the u21 result v Armagh is anything to go by Down football really does need to have a good look at itself.