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Tuned in for a few minutes this morning to listen to Moore Holmes talk about how the local community don't want an Irish medium school in the area as it isn't wanted meanwhile Unionists calling for Orangemen to march down the Garvaghy Road on Sunday. Absolute clowns.

[It's mainly a forward problem I think. Just not enough scoring forwards.]

I agree with you there - unlucky with injuries. However you have nowhere near the depth even with them available. It's mainly a forward problem I think. Just not enough scoring forwards.

You'll not find many here disagreeing with that.

[we could have beat Kerry.]

So the "Future of Derry Football" thread has morphed into a thread about Armagh. lol.

Whatever about the future, the general quality of teams in this years championship is been poor.
Bad as we were, we could have beat Kerry.
A div 2 side are in the AI final.
Dublin and Kerry out in the semis with a whimper.
Say what you want about McGeeney - this years success should be measured alongside the decline of other teams. I still don't think they have great players but could actually win an AI.
There hasn't been a really good game of football played this year.

You were miles off beating Kerry who were poor and still dispatched you easily.

(I would follow derry outside my own county with family from there and would root for you but that is not realistic at all.)

Bit unfair on Armagh. Armagh finish stronger in games than they start and that is massive these days. Kerry did it on you last year by bringing on a very strong bench and Armagh did it on Kerry this year. Dublin also did it on Kerry in the final.

It's a 20+ man game now. Derry have been working on near 15 too long though have found a few more this year. You were unlucky with injuries this year too - you have as good a half back line is as about but was completely wiped out with suspensions and injuries this year - however you don't have enough depth which is how championships are won these days. It's not boys who happen to end up super subs it's boys on the bench who are likely better than boys starting.

How many counties have enough strength to replace their entire half-back line like for like? None I would say!

[From the outside looking in, I think Derry have less strength in depth than other counties at or above their level and an over reliance on players to get them over the line is another detrimental factor in their decline this season.]

From the outside looking in, I think Derry have less strength in depth than other counties at or above their level and an over reliance on players to get them over the line is another detrimental factor in their decline this season. 

Rodgers and Glass in the middle are formidable, but a few times I have seen Derry this year, when they struggled, Derry struggled. 

Shane McGuigan harbors a lot of the scoring responsibility, and I felt that if he is having a quite day Derry would get it tough. 

The good news for Derry supporters is that, as already mentioned, they have had 3 minor winning teams in the past 5 years, so their seems to be a consistent good standard of young players on the horizon.

We can see that from the inside ourselves. I don't think many people in Derry are oblivious to that. In saying that there aren't too many countries with a huge panel of players like Armagh with lads content to sit on a bench with no little to no game time or in an extended panel who can't even play for their clubs esp. in a county like Derry where the club scene is very strong. You only have to go to a Derry game to see the number of people in club gear. You don't tend to get that in the likes of Armagh.

[Anyone feel that Derry just aren't at the level to win an AI?]

u20's only deserve to play if they are good enough.
6ft 3" or 6ft 4" intercounty players don't grow on tree's
Managers like Kieran McGeeney don't grow on tree's.
Another 6-7 subs up to inter county level standard aren't there yet, by the time they are up to that standard 2-3 key players will slip off. IC football squads in a revolving door.

Anyone feel that Derry just aren't at the level to win an AI?

Maybe I'm just a depresso.

There was no doubt that we had the makings of a great team last year but we have massively failed to build to that this year and I feel we've slipped back a couple of years. That said, blooding a few new lads and getting the right management team in place is essential so we don't slip back even further. Look at Donegal, they where a mess last year but it is more or less the same group of players this year. They just got the right people in place. Granted they had a home grown "messiah" in Jimmy which made their turn around easier and he had instant respect from the players.

As we eagerly await the appointment of a new Derry Senior football manager, a few certain factors must be taken into account by the County Board, players and supporters TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRECT MANAGER IS APPOINTED.
Therefore we must select  a new manager with a proven track record, has no perceived  downsides, whether real or imagined and who will bring immediate stability for all stakeholders.

He must select, initially, a panel of 40 players, then trim them to 35 after all have been used in the McKenna Cup or challenge matches..

During the course of the league, a core group  of ten players should be selected for most games and each of the remaining 25 players should be given the opportunity to start at least one league game and come on for the last quarter in another.

If this system were adopted all 35 panellists would be exposed to quality football, alongside established players, and thus every panellist would get a fair opportunity to show their true ability.. Furthermore any panellist who is not listed in the first 26 for any county game should be allowed to play for their club that weekend if required.

Panel wise in addition to retaining the 2024 squad members, we need to enlist  at least  two  6 3" or 6 4" strong players who  are  good fielders and who would help to increase our options from kick outs. Most other Counties have these types. Think Donegal, Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Kerry for starters. KICK OUTS have become an increasingly more important part of our games nowadays and we should alter our tactics to accommodate this. Ideally we also require  two tall speedy forwards who can run at defences, unhinge them with their trickery, and score off either foot.
 
Likewise we have to have the option on our squad of a tall player  who can fill the traditional full forward role and create more opportunities for the likes of Shane McGuigan, Lachlan  Murray and Cormac Murphy. Finally and most importantly we have to recruit a player who can consistently score long range frees. 

One would think that having won three minor All IRELANDS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS there must be within   that
 cumulative group the type and quality of player I have just referred to for the above vacancies.Doire Abu.

This post makes me want to vomit

If Carlsberg done inter county manager appointments

More chance of finding a Unicon carrying a bag of hens teeth. Think this lad has been on the glue.

I want to be as optimistic as the next man but the reality is if MOR doesn't take the job we are looking at a much less experienced manager who will have to build that experience similar to the 10 year project McGeeney has with Armagh. 

That's the joy of being in a final. Especially with two teams who haven't been there in a long time. Demand will outstrip supply all day long and unfortunately, quite a lot of people are going to be disappointed.

From RTE:
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has identified 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks as the "subject involved" in the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, it said in a statement.

Crooks, who was from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, was registered as a Republican, according to the state's voter records.

You'd think being on the receiving end of something like this would "wise" you up to guns and the need for gun laws. Wonder how they'll spin this.

At the same time this is America at present and it'll probably galvanise more voters to Trump. The cards are falling for him and the next few polls are going to make interesting/scary reading.

Fair play Armagh.

How many more years have Errigal, as sponsors, left on their contract?

That was their third year. So fair chance things are up for renewal or for someone new to step in.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/07/11/catholics-outnumber-protestants-in-northern-ireland-workforce-for-the-first-time-study/

It wouldn't be hard esp. at this time of the year when all they are interested in is drug dealing an stacking pallets.

A bit left field but any chance of Conor Laverty being tempted from Down? Has them playing some nice football - a style that seems would suit this Derry team.
Assuming he is into his last playing year(s) with Kilcoo, now has experience under his belt as a senior inter-county manager, and potentially will have silverware under his belt too soon enough.

Jaysus no!

He may have good teeth but the man needs an eye test.

From the outside looking in I don't understand the clamour for Rory to come back. You've had a year of split in supporters last over Harte and some want to go back to that. Whether there's truth to the allegations or not surely O'Rourke is one who could unite the county and also has the credentials to push the county on.

What choice would other counties make in such a scenario?

What makes people think MOR wants the job in the first instance?

I'm not saying they are wrong btw, Westminster has been a pointless entity for here since the State began, and continues to pay lip service to most if not all things.

What would the duties be in a fully operational constituency office?

Fixing potholes and getting swastika's painted over depending on your constituency.

Are you Tim "nice but dim" Collins?