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Looks like you are in the know EOC - please inform us who paid for and built the two pitches and changing rooms at Musgrave?

A lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.

It's an interesting move by them going forward, many Dublin 'Super Clubs' do this, most of them own a pitch and some changing rooms though

Can you point out where I said I knew who paid for the pitch you play on or changing rooms you use?
You are doing something different with the GPO that many clubs would like to be able to do, don't be so touchy about it.

A lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.

It's an interesting move by them going forward, many Dublin 'Super Clubs' do this, most of them own a pitch and some changing rooms though

I see Justin McMahon in to work with the Defence. Should be a good addition. 

Maybe he will tog out himself, full back a big problem position for us

Tomas and Ronan will both be involved in our first game next season, Tomas will get his red card lifted if common sense prevails and Ronan Devlin will lead us in 2024.

I think the 16 Div 1 scenario in 2024, is a compromise for one year, as this is being implemented retrospectively.
I think it makes sense to go top 8 in 1A , next 8 in 1B, in 2025, When teams know what they are playing for with 1 up and 1 down between 1A & B.
I feel that relegation via championship is a fairer outcome due to spilt season impact on clubs e.g Dunloy !!!

You seem well versed on it. Rewarding teams with a place in Division 1 who were either relegated or failed to get promoted stinks, no matter what way you spin it.

Any developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?

Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals

Any developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?

Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals

Dirty Dozen? Were there 12 involved? Salty response as you would say. Still in bad mood?

No the bad mood has moved on, yes I heard there were up to 12 and something like G and t states as well. IMO we are lowering the quality in Div1 by increasing the teams, which in turn will helps no one.

The league restructuring is not down to the out going chair and his sidekick,it's being pushed ny2 LD men,Frankie boy and sorry ex LD,Jim Brady,we ourselves find ourselves relegated,if that be in div or div 1b,it won't matter, current div 2 we should probably win it,getting Carl to commit is a big Positive,JB only looking after AS interest,they couldn't win div 2,if anything going by the last few years got worse,so have no arn in senior football to they prove themselves,

Teams like AS if they are involved in that, really is poor form. Go and earn your place lads

Any developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?

Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals

On another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

Divison 1b looks quite competitive, all the teams at pretty much the same level

On another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.

League football is pretty much dead now with the split season, not trying to take anything away from past or future league winners but we all know its not going to be a true reflection of teams.
Division 1b in 2024 looks pretty competitive if it happens, all the teams at the one level.

Haha, you Cargin boys are shocking.
Suppose every other team that beat you every other year were being protected too? 1 win in Ulster and you would swear your one of the top teams. If Glen wanted to hammer you, they would have. All we needed to do was beat you and move onto the next round, simple as that. Them lads are building for bigger challenges. Now just enjoy your Antrim championship and be happy with it, you were never gonna win Ulster

After all the success Glen have had and that's your first post on the discussion board, Jesus what an honour for Cargin 

Oso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.

Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

We aren't talking about the same thing. You're referring to Glen player's taking on shots under pressure from areas they might not normally shoot from and about guys taking on the shots who aren't the reliable shooters.  I call that smart defence on cargin's part.

I'm referring to Cargin missing scoreable frees and possibly still being on par going in at HT a man down.

Cargin scored twice from play. Shivers had 2 frees that he should have nailed. Glen left another 5 easy scores from very kickable positions in the first half alone. It was a 4 point hammering.
Cargin just didn't show enough ambition going forward to win any of the two games. It was all about containment

Four point hammering you say and yet  you feel the need to come on here and explain it, you don't think O Rourke would have liked to hammer Cargin last year and this year and would of done so if he could, like he did to Mfelt, Bellaghy and every other Derry team in the last 2-3 years?
Go and enjoy your victory and with the sort of protection Glen are getting from officials you will walk to an All Ireland title.

We will head up to Celtic Park along with our SW neighbours Glenravel (who we will be fully behind) and fly the flag for Antrim, hopefully we do it well!!

Cargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

No way Cargin will try and play everyone behind the ball and slow the game down back and across the pitch? They just wouldn't do that! They play the game as it is supposed to be played. They wouldn't revert to those sort of tactics.

MR2 had to have a couple of bites of the cherry to get a response on that one. And still didn't lol

They will have to or Glen will destroy them with the running game

No chance! Cargin just wouldn't do that. They'll play their swash buckling man to man game like they 'always do'. You won't see those boys with 13 or 14 men in their own defence. no way!

Yawn yawn, yet another salty / sarcy post from the jealous St Brigids man.

I read somewhere a Cavan division 1 team is playing in the Ulster Junior Champ so I think these results can get skewed in many ways.

Belfast Live have an article online today about Antrim calling up one of the former Lavey Downey lads. Notably hes probably the only one of them that has zero chance of being called up by Derry. This must where we are at, which is fine.