Would you be in favour of a second tier?

[Rossfan]

https://www.gaa.ie/news/john-horan-enthusiastic-about-new-football-championship-format/

[manfromdelmonte]

Tommy Murphy mark 2

Instead of tackling the blindingly obvious need to change the approach to coaching funding and structures in many weaker counties they've basically decided to turf them out into the championship wilderness

[didlyi]

According to the poll at the top of the page a majority here wanted a second tier. I haven't seen one positive post since it was announced. Theres no pleasing some people

[Rossfan]

The Gaaboarders are a strange crew
Then again those in favour have no need to comment as their option won.

[Esmarelda]

The Gaaboarders are a strange crew
Then again those in favour have no need to comment as their option won.

It was a very broad question and I don't think anyone would've envisaged what we got.

But "there's no pleasing some people" is a grand sweeping statement.

[Captain Obvious]

The Gaaboarders are a strange crew
Then again those in favour have no need to comment as their option won.

Are you you one of those that doesn't think their "opinions" wasn't influenced and rushed/pressured?

[Rossfan]

Hasn't stopped you.

Never said I was in favour of this proposal.
Hope you're getting counselling 

[didlyi]

The Gaaboarders are a strange crew
Then again those in favour have no need to comment as their option won.

It was a very broad question and I don't think anyone would've envisaged what we got.

But "there's no pleasing some people" is a grand sweeping statement.

Sounds like a brexiteers response to brexit.

[Solo_run]

Are the tiers going to be based on the league finals of that year?

[Farrandeelin]

Hasn't stopped you.

Never said I was in favour of this proposal.
Hope you're getting counselling 

Are you in favour of it?

[Tyrdub]

So more than likely we will have Tyrone/Donegal will a minimum 4 week break between when they are out out of the Ulster championship and play there first round qualifier game.

It's farcical that this has been allowed to be pushed through.
There is absolutely no detail in it.
I am assuming from what's been outlined that is possible for a Div 3/ Div 4 team to win this competition and then win it again the next year ( assuming they have not be promoted to division 2 and get knocked out before their provincial final).
At least with the hurling structure( Joe McDonagh winners) they are given the chance to compete in the all Ireland hurling championship in the same season.

Thee is no detail in this proposal.  Nothing at all.
Just dump the division 3 and 4 teams from the senior championship and let them play among themselves.
There are no incentives to win this competition.  What has been talked about is All Stars, Tv coverage and semi finals and finals before the all Ireland semi finals and finals. 
Again no detail has been given but sure John Horan got a text from RTÉ.
Imagine if the main competition was changed like this.
It shows exactly what direction the Gaa is heading in.
We are losing what was great about our organisation in a rush to create marquee games at the end of the summer.  Nothing is being done to develop these weaker footballing counties.
The minute your tier teams off you are increasing the gap between the halves and the have nots.
The league was tiered and it has helped the stronger and better organised counties

Just look at what has happened Offaly and Antrim in the hurling? Show me all the new teams that have suddenly appeared in hurling at the top table since they tiered it ?
Yes teams now win competitions but they end up getting relegated the next year from the competition above. How is that helping developing hurling ?

It's just typical Gaa.  No though. No plan. More greed.

+1

[TheGreatest]

How do the qualifiers work now ?
I assume they are basically capped to 8 teams because the powers that be are assuming there will be 8 division 1 or 2 teams in the 4 provincial finals.
Does this mean the qualifiers can't begin until after the all the provincial semi finals are completed ?
Could a team be waiting for over 6 weeks for a qualifier if they are in the top 2 divisions and get knocked out in a premilarily round game like the losers of the Donegal v Tyrone game in Ulster next year ?

I am happy it was voted in, however i would of went to 3 tiers, Senior, Inter and Junior, like we have in every single county in the country, however too many would complain and play the victim.

Its still not clear to me in some aspects.

Are the supers 8s gone and back to straight knockout QFs in tier 1?
All div 3 and 4 teams get qualifier chance if they lose their provincial final, if they lose their first qualifier do they go into the Tier 2?
Does Tier 2 competition only start when all provincial finals are finished? E.G long wait for first round losers
Will New York play tier 2, will they travel?

[Rossfan]

It's I WOULD HAVE GONE 

[Owenmoresider]

How do the qualifiers work now ?
I assume they are basically capped to 8 teams because the powers that be are assuming there will be 8 division 1 or 2 teams in the 4 provincial finals.
Does this mean the qualifiers can't begin until after the all the provincial semi finals are completed ?
Could a team be waiting for over 6 weeks for a qualifier if they are in the top 2 divisions and get knocked out in a premilarily round game like the losers of the Donegal v Tyrone game in Ulster next year ?

I am happy it was voted in, however i would of went to 3 tiers, Senior, Inter and Junior, like we have in every single county in the country, however too many would complain and play the victim.

Its still not clear to me in some aspects.

Are the supers 8s gone and back to straight knockout QFs in tier 1?
All div 3 and 4 teams get qualifier chance if they lose their provincial final, if they lose their first qualifier do they go into the Tier 2?
Does Tier 2 competition only start when all provincial finals are finished? E.G long wait for first round losers
Will New York play tier 2, will they travel?

The three dates are listed on the left so yes the so-called "Super 8's" are still there, as you'd expect given that's the only level that Croke Park give a shit about any more.

A terrible decision and it'll not improve the fortunes of those of us who are in the wilderness. But as long as certain people can keep themselves in favour in HQ that's what really matters.

[Rossfan]

Sligo voted for it didn't they?
2 ways out of " the wilderness" - get up to Div  2 or reach a Connacht Final.
Surely both should be Sligo's aim and capability??