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The Cork team that won the all Ireland were maybe the weakest compared to their stronger outfits the previous couple of years which met a great Kerry team still motoring well.  They done though what Mayo needs to do, just stumble over the line in a final. 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: July 29, 2021, 01:55:28 PM »
Which makes the Kerry game absolutely irrelevant and this game absolutely stand alone important. It is an Ulster final on its own merits between the best 2 teams in Ulster this year and on Saturday there will be nobody looking or caring at what Kerry are bringing in the semi final.. From a Tyrone perspective it feels like the 80s/ 90s all over again.  Unless you are an eejit this game is 50/50 on the day and is all about the Anglo Celt cup, both teams are playing great football and if anything Monaghan are the more settled and steady team. But sure we will give it a lash....

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: July 29, 2021, 01:45:38 PM »
What way do Dungannon rugby do it with 5 adult teams?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: July 29, 2021, 12:12:16 PM »
Kezzy Corr was starting for their seniors throughout the league the year they won the championship

One player just?

I believe so - Coalisland seniors were struggling to field a reserve team at times in fact I believe the played a game with 16 players and then forfeited the next game due to lack of numbers. There should be a new rule proposed. I believe the IIIs should have a 4/5 match period before the seniors submit their players not eligible to play IIIs as the first few games could show a lot of how a player has progressed through pre season. This 4/5 game grace period would also help with injury issues than can lead to problems with numbers at reserve level.

See below extract from the 2021 Tyrone CCC Regulations. Any club with a 3rds team had until 1st July to re-grade a thirds player to the senior panel. By 1st July, all clubs had 5 games played and ample time to see who was progressing well for the thirds. Once they have played senior football, they may NOT return to thirds football however. So if Coalisland read the regulations, this should not be an issue.

"38. Where a club enters a third (and fourth) team into the adult competitions, they must name a
panel of 40 players prior to the commencement of the competition, compliant with Rule 6.2
T.O. 2021, who may not play for their third (or fourth) team.
Exceptions:
- Where a player on the ‘list of 40’ has not played for either the clubs first team or
reserve team before 1st July, they may be permitted to regrade to the
third/fourth team with permission of CCC.
- Where a player, not on the ‘list of 40’, plays for the first and/or reserve team,
they may not subsequently play for the thirds or fourths team."
what is wrong with guys switching between reserves and thirds? red tape madness. Let teams play.

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Get Bono lined up for West Belfast.... he brings a very powerful message with him on all sorts of things.. .

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Senior Football Championship 2021
« on: July 29, 2021, 11:38:07 AM »
Definitely a runner for team of the decade.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: July 29, 2021, 11:35:15 AM »
Should be a tight game alright.  Tyrone are delighted to be back in another Ulster final, delighted to have beat Donegal, and know that in Mc Manus Monaghan have an all time great in their line up. SHould be a cracking contest but I go for Tyrone on penalties.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Retirements
« on: July 29, 2021, 11:32:20 AM »
O She is another one of these players you can play anywhere but really play nowhere for too long.. That is not a criticism - he has never truly owned a role. However to say he is not one of the best Footballing characters of the last 10 years in the game and dosent deserve to win an all ireland medal is crazy. Like the O Connors, Keegan and others, Mayo deserve to be winning the All Ireland this year, and I for one will be cheering them on to their destiny.

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This is worth putting some thought into.  Only for Tyrone and Armagh in the noughties Kerry would have won every all ireland from 02 - 09. They were an absolutely top notch team and are largely dismissed because fortune favoured the Dubs in the last 10.  The only difference in the last 10 years and the previous 10 outside the financial doping of Dublin was that Kerry had genuine opposition in Tyrone and in 02 Armagh. That constitutes 8 in a row but for the Ulster Giants. The last decade everyone has failed to come to the party outside Donegal kerry and Cork in one offs.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: July 29, 2021, 11:15:21 AM »
I have mixed feelings about the  senior final  and none of them good. Tyrone's fitness levels were impressive v Donegal, nippy feckers on the counterattack.  But there's always a distant hope that quality and integrity will prevail with Monaghan firing on all cylinders.
Yes who can forget that Monaghan saved football...  ;)

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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/seán-moran-open-feel-to-football-championship-may-signal-a-transformation-1.4632097?mode=amp

Since their most recent All-Ireland success in 2014 Kerry they have played Dublin four times in championship, winning none – and extending the sequence to six in succession, a blue stretch unparalleled in relations between the counties; Dublin had never previously won more than two championship matches in a row against Kerry
Tyrone getting to 3 in the noughties is more impressive now reading that.  Kerrys to lose this year. 

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Exciting day for Antrim and Ulster Gaels. Well done all.

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GAA Discussion / Re: UTV & BBC & RTE & TV3
« on: July 13, 2021, 07:56:08 PM »
Sean Cavanagh having a laugh on TSG. He’s confident that Fergal Logan will come up with some legal wizardry to get Ronan mcnamee off for clearly striking. You couldn’t make it up but it seems like Tyrone have some kind of entitlement when it comes to these suspensions.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he got it overturned. It was more of a push than a strike.

But it’s long overdue that a rule was brought in, where any contact with the head/face/neck is a straight red.
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and in the meantime there is no rule to be fair.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: July 13, 2021, 07:52:08 PM »
I wouldn't blame Coldrick for not allowing Derry time to get an equaliser. McBreartys winning point landed over the bar right on time ticking by the 74min. He blew the whistle about 75secs later, he allowed Derry to work the ball down the left, then switch the ball to the right, before trying to go again on the other side. He was never going to add infinite time to let Derry get a shot away.

I'm not saying it should have been an infinite amount of time, but if he wasn't going to give Derry the chance to develop a scoring situation, why didn't he just blow it up after the kickout? 75seconds isn't long when you take the time needed for a kickout out of it.
Perhaps another 30-60 seconds is all it would have needed then there really would have been no excuse for not getting a shot off. If we couldn't have worked a scoring attempt in that time then fair enough. It is subjective I suppose but I felt over the course of the entire game he was unduly harsh on Derry in comparison to Donegal. I see the Irish News yesterday seemed to be of the same view.

Can't agree with this at all.

As one poster said, he gave Derry enough time to make 3 attempts at breaching the Donegal defence.  But nobody wanted to take on the responsibility.

This is where Derry miss a proper leader.

All it took was for someone to carry the ball into a Donegal tackle.  Coldrick would have been absolutely itching to award a free.  But nobody had the sense/bollo*cks to do it.

Instead they danced forwards and backwards across the 45 until the ref had no option but to call time.
Going into this game we all knew that the strong Derry club teams can pass the ball around side to side and win a game 5-4 or 7 -6. In one intercounty game in the past they kept the ruling all ireland champions to no score at half time.   Defensive ability is never or has never been in question with Derry. It is as much about their own belief in themselves going forward, confronting those negative demons, and for 73 minutes you could see it was working under GAllaghers tutelage.... even forgiving the fisted efforts over the bar.  It is worth pointing out though that during this time the Derry men they reneged their  right to complain about penalties, as they would have more than likely taken a point as they did with the 4 goal chances they did have. In 1993 when the greatest ever Derry team  took the field, them boys knew full well that they had hardly a forward to their name, but what they did have made up for it by attacking and shooting twice as much as the opposition and having a go and indeed plenty went over and under the bar for that have a lash mentality.  It mightn't have been easy on the eye for most, but they knew when they were facing an auld done Cork team in the final, that their time had come, they just had to be brave and go for it and they did, and to this day there is a Sam Maguire base in the Croke Park museum with their name on it. The modern team needs to look at the history make up for their obvious failings by pulling out the VHS and watching those lads simply having a go...     

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: July 13, 2021, 01:51:16 PM »
I understand all that surely, but cant you at least admit you lacked a wee bit of bravery needed at the end. In a strange way it reminded me of the national league final in 91/92 for Tyrone. 2 very even and coming teams and the losers had the opportunities to win it. a flukey goal or a goal chance missed - no difference.  A  breakthrough game for either team and on that 91/92 day the losing team went on to suffer disproportionately for a few years whereas the winning team were hailed as giants and in their supporters eyes team of the decade. a hype wave that propelled them to an all ireland win within 20 months. Watch Donegal go now...  Such is football. 

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