The IRISH RUGBY thread

[Capt Pat]

The Irish rugby sevens team qualified for the olympics today. I look forward to seeing them taking part in Tokyo.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

I see the Ireland b team beat japan something the first team couldn't do when it mattered at a world cup as per usual

[RedHand88]

[dec]

12 a side auction based franchise rugby anyone?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/58476455

Plans have been unveiled for a new 12-a-side rugby competition proposed to take place in England next August. The new tournament, World 12s, is intended to feature 192 of the world's best players, picked via auction to represent eight franchises. World 12s Limited says the competition will take place over three weekends in a round-robin format before knockouts.

"World 12s is a natural evolution for rugby union," said the organisation's chairman, Ian Ritchie. "We feel that this is a game for our changing, fast-paced world that can excite a global fanbase in the way that we have seen with the IPL [Indian Premier League] or most recently The Hundred in cricket."

Ritchie, formerly chief executive of the Rugby Football Union, is joined on World 12's board by former Welsh Rugby Union chairman Gareth Davies and former New Zealand Rugby Union chief executive Steve Tew...

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-qa-document-explaining-what-the-new-world-12s-is-all-about/

Q. What is the difference between 12s and 15s?
World 12s will follow the current Laws of 15s, but with a few exciting adaptations:

    12 players in a team – six forwards and six backs
    15-minute halves
    Conversions will be drop goals only
    Only one scrum reset, followed by a free-kick
    Scrum infringements are penalised by a differential penalty (a penalty that cannot be kicked at goal)
    In the knockout stages, if matches are tied at full time, a golden point will decide the winner

[seafoid]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/i-had-been-a-little-bit-worried-about-some-symptoms-ireland-star-caelan-doris-opens-up-on-concussion-battle-40991507.html

[dec]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/i-had-been-a-little-bit-worried-about-some-symptoms-ireland-star-caelan-doris-opens-up-on-concussion-battle-40991507.html

"he recently started wearing specialised head protection designed by Galway company N-Pro.
...
"I think most scrum caps are just seen as protecting from cuts and protecting your ears, whereas this new one is actually a medical device.
"It's classified as a medical device and has a fair few studies behind it showing that it reduces the force to the head."

In American football they have been using helmets for many years and they still have a massive concussion and CTE problem.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2021/1028/1256360-jackman-questions-out-half-succession-plan-gamble/

[johnnycool]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/i-had-been-a-little-bit-worried-about-some-symptoms-ireland-star-caelan-doris-opens-up-on-concussion-battle-40991507.html

"he recently started wearing specialised head protection designed by Galway company N-Pro.
...
"I think most scrum caps are just seen as protecting from cuts and protecting your ears, whereas this new one is actually a medical device.
"It's classified as a medical device and has a fair few studies behind it showing that it reduces the force to the head."

In American football they have been using helmets for many years and they still have a massive concussion and CTE problem.

I think it was Harlequins in England that fitted everyone's gumshield with a chip that measured impacts during the game and some were off the scale so they did little or no full contact training the following week..

Time to get smart for the better health outcomes of the players themselves.

[thewobbler]

12 a side auction based franchise rugby anyone?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/58476455

Plans have been unveiled for a new 12-a-side rugby competition proposed to take place in England next August. The new tournament, World 12s, is intended to feature 192 of the world's best players, picked via auction to represent eight franchises. World 12s Limited says the competition will take place over three weekends in a round-robin format before knockouts.

"World 12s is a natural evolution for rugby union," said the organisation's chairman, Ian Ritchie. "We feel that this is a game for our changing, fast-paced world that can excite a global fanbase in the way that we have seen with the IPL [Indian Premier League] or most recently The Hundred in cricket."

Ritchie, formerly chief executive of the Rugby Football Union, is joined on World 12's board by former Welsh Rugby Union chairman Gareth Davies and former New Zealand Rugby Union chief executive Steve Tew...

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-qa-document-explaining-what-the-new-world-12s-is-all-about/

Q. What is the difference between 12s and 15s?
World 12s will follow the current Laws of 15s, but with a few exciting adaptations:

    12 players in a team – six forwards and six backs
    15-minute halves
    Conversions will be drop goals only
    Only one scrum reset, followed by a free-kick
    Scrum infringements are penalised by a differential penalty (a penalty that cannot be kicked at goal)
    In the knockout stages, if matches are tied at full time, a golden point will decide the winner

Rugby Twitter was up in arms about this when it was announced a few months ago. "It's not rugby".

They're right, it's not.

But by changing the balance of rugby conditioning away from brute power, and towards athleticism, the concept (with lots of tweaks) might just save the sport from the demise through litigation, that it is hurtling towards.

[screenexile]

12 a side auction based franchise rugby anyone?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/58476455

Plans have been unveiled for a new 12-a-side rugby competition proposed to take place in England next August. The new tournament, World 12s, is intended to feature 192 of the world's best players, picked via auction to represent eight franchises. World 12s Limited says the competition will take place over three weekends in a round-robin format before knockouts.

"World 12s is a natural evolution for rugby union," said the organisation's chairman, Ian Ritchie. "We feel that this is a game for our changing, fast-paced world that can excite a global fanbase in the way that we have seen with the IPL [Indian Premier League] or most recently The Hundred in cricket."

Ritchie, formerly chief executive of the Rugby Football Union, is joined on World 12's board by former Welsh Rugby Union chairman Gareth Davies and former New Zealand Rugby Union chief executive Steve Tew...

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-qa-document-explaining-what-the-new-world-12s-is-all-about/

Q. What is the difference between 12s and 15s?
World 12s will follow the current Laws of 15s, but with a few exciting adaptations:

    12 players in a team – six forwards and six backs
    15-minute halves
    Conversions will be drop goals only
    Only one scrum reset, followed by a free-kick
    Scrum infringements are penalised by a differential penalty (a penalty that cannot be kicked at goal)
    In the knockout stages, if matches are tied at full time, a golden point will decide the winner

Rugby Twitter was up in arms about this when it was announced a few months ago. "It's not rugby".

They're right, it's not.

But by changing the balance of rugby conditioning away from brute power, and towards athleticism, the concept (with lots of tweaks) might just save the sport from the demise through litigation, that it is hurtling towards.

I don't see how it works alongside a packed international and club calendar especially for the likes of England and France... players in those leagues are flogged already an extra competition isn't going to help.

[Rudi]

Playing some mighty heads up rugby today, super off loads. Conway's try a joy to watch. Japan are probably shite all the same.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Playing some mighty heads up rugby today, super off loads. Conway's try a joy to watch. Japan are probably shite all the same.

Ireland playing really well men v boys yet meet these guys in a world cup and we shit out pants. Did the same against Argentina for years. Beat them for fun and then choke at world cups.

[seafoid]

Ireland's November form is never carried over into
World Cups.

[Tony Baloney]

Plenty of empty seats. Should have slashed the prices to fill the Aviva.

[seafoid]

Covid probably changed the way people look at big matches