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Title: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 12, 2021, 08:55:18 AM
I propose the county the thread-starter is from be promoted automatically to Division 1 again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on May 12, 2021, 03:30:44 PM
Jases Farr you must be lonely in there!
I'd expect your bucks will saunter back up handy enough.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rosnarun on May 12, 2021, 04:46:18 PM
any one see the Mayo panel announced 48 members( and a good case to be made for another half dozen atleast) and 20 backup team, there were even pen pics in Sportsfile for about 24 hours.
but it all seems to have disappeared now
Must have bee a leak
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 13, 2021, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 12, 2021, 04:46:18 PM
any one see the Mayo panel announced 48 members( and a good case to be made for another half dozen atleast) and 20 backup team, there were even pen pics in Sportsfile for about 24 hours.
but it all seems to have disappeared now
Must have bee a leak

All in seen on sportsfile was about 5 pictures of James Horan and 1 of Rob Hennelly and 1 of Castlebar Mitchell's keeper Rory Byrne.

48 members sounds like a lot I presume that number includes the feeder/development panel.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on May 13, 2021, 08:33:59 PM
Hard to know how it will go given lock downs and all that, who's been training, who hasn't etc. Only bits and pieces coming out about the panel at the moment. From what I gather David Toner, Ronan Jones are injured or not available. Mickey Newman is back in the squad but fitness is questionable. Marcus Brennan our goalkeeper last year isn't with the panel I think but not sure. We'll know more after Sunday but it's hard to make any estimations at the minute.

I'd be hopeful we can do something but hard to see who is best placed to replace Jones alongside Menton.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: MayoBuck on May 13, 2021, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 13, 2021, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 12, 2021, 04:46:18 PM
any one see the Mayo panel announced 48 members( and a good case to be made for another half dozen atleast) and 20 backup team, there were even pen pics in Sportsfile for about 24 hours.
but it all seems to have disappeared now
Must have bee a leak

All in seen on sportsfile was about 5 pictures of James Horan and 1 of Rob Hennelly and 1 of Castlebar Mitchell's keeper Rory Byrne.

48 members sounds like a lot I presume that number includes the feeder/development panel.

The full panel was up on sportsfile for 2 days but it's gone now. I think the panel was cut down from 48 earlier this week.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on May 13, 2021, 11:00:11 PM
Kildare: Mark Donnellan; Mark Dempsey, Mick O'Grady, Eoin Doyle; Kevin Flynn, David Hyland, Ryan Houlihan; Luke Flynn, Aaron Masterson; Alex Beirne, Daniel Flynn, Paul Cribbin; Jimmy Hyland, Kevin Feely, Darragh Kirwan.

Alex Beirne makes his debut and Ryan Houlihan returns after a four/five year absence. Not sure whether Feely will genuinely play FF but if so it's not an experiment I'd have a lot of faith in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 14, 2021, 04:41:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1W0jFUWEAIsRyb?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rosnarun on May 14, 2021, 05:57:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 14, 2021, 04:41:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1W0jFUWEAIsRyb?format=jpg&name=small)

Nice progression again with Hession and Brickenden coming in , though i was sure Botle would play just to add that bit of experience  but its  all Duck or no Dinner now ,
Wonder is Coen available or out of Favour,

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 15, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Best of luck to the Mayo team today. Start of a newish era. Can't predict anything as we all know it's a young Mayo team and I don't know much about Down. Hopefully the lads will get a home league win, unlike last year where no points were gained in MacHale Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on May 15, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Meath (Allianz FL Division 2 v Westmeath):

Andy Colgan;

Seamus Lavin,
Conor McGill,
Ronan Ryan;

Eoin Harkin,
Shane McEntee (c),
Donal Keogan;

Bryan Menton,
Padraic Harnan;

Ethan Devine,
Darragh Campion,
Matthew Costello;

Jordan Morris,
Thomas O'Reilly,
Cillian O'Sullivan.

Subs: Harry Hogan, Gavin McCoy, Fionn Reilly, Jason Scully, Jack O'Connor, David Dillon, Danny Dixon, Bryan McMahon, James Conlon, Eamon Wallace, Donal Lenihan.

No new faces on the starting 15. Shane McEntee captain won't go down well with the Andy Mc haters but he's well established now in the squad and hardly a weak link by any means.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 15, 2021, 12:36:18 PM
Winners of Cork and Kildare will play Mayo in final. Clare and Westmeath for relegation. Laois could be dark horses in league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2021, 12:58:04 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 15, 2021, 12:36:18 PM
Winners of Cork and Kildare will play Mayo in final. Clare and Westmeath for relegation. Laois could be dark horses in league.

1st in North group v 2nd in South group and 2nd v 1st in the semi final play offs.

I'd expect

Mayo v Kildare
Meath v Cork

Two winners promoted. Will be no final as I think it will clash with a few teams championship opener?

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:40:14 PM
Is james carr injured ? It's absolutely ridiculous the secrecy that surrounds mayo county panel,  wtf is it all about?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 15, 2021, 01:50:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 15, 2021, 01:40:14 PM
Is james carr injured ? It's absolutely ridiculous the secrecy that surrounds mayo county panel,  wtf is it all about?

Not in the panel today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on May 15, 2021, 02:23:45 PM
Mayowestros 1-5 to 0-5 at water break.
Morrissey and McStay hard to listen to....
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 15, 2021, 02:24:19 PM
Good game of football. Mayo the better conditioned team.  Down causing Mayo problems went run at them. Cillian O'Connor running the show at centre forward.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Angelo on May 15, 2021, 02:35:53 PM
O'Donoghue and Conroy look to have put a fair bit of bulk on since last year for Mayo.

I think Down have a lot of potential but seems to be missing a lot of players today, good few of the Kilcoo contingent not involved, no Harrison, O'Hare, O'Hagan etc.

Read that Shay Millar could be back now, think he is a very good player for them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 15, 2021, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2021, 02:23:45 PM
Mayowestros 1-5 to 0-5 at water break.
Morrissey and McStay hard to listen to....

It great to have balanced commentary.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 15, 2021, 03:43:39 PM
Mayo 2-21 Down 1-11 full time. Mayo dominated the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Was listening to the radio so I can't comment as I normally do, but Tommy Conroy sounded very impressive. Probably motm going by what the two boys were saying. You can only beat what's in front of you, but it's good to get the win especially with the structure of the league this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 15, 2021, 03:44:00 PM
Massive win for Mayo.  Seemed to resolved their scoring issues. No team D2 will be able to cope with their physicality . Need to tighten at back, getting away with a lot of cynical fouling and cuter than Down to win their frees.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 15, 2021, 03:51:24 PM
Mayo determined to make sure Div 2 football is just one year. Down will probably do well to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on May 15, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
It's 2021 and no one has invented a cover for a camera that keeps rain droplets off the lens!?

I'm getting soaked watching the Mayo Down game sat at home.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: SCFC on May 16, 2021, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 15, 2021, 03:43:39 PM
Tommy Conroy sounded very impressive. Probably motm going by what the two boys were saying.
He was excellent but how Down left their number 4 on him for so long is beyond me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 16, 2021, 07:19:17 PM
That was a great win for Clare.
Kildare just needed any sort of win to be honest bit that was a good scalp.
It's still a mad year but the beauty of it means the counties all need to put the best foot forward earlier.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on May 16, 2021, 08:44:18 PM
Good win, worked hard. Played most of the football. Westmeath playing with 14 in their own half thankfully failed. They have some decent forwards in Egan and Heslin but the way the team plays they deserve to win nothing.

Harnan, McGill, Menton did well. Young Costello was quiet enough apart from a great first half score. Went off early. Morris was kept quiet. Brian McMahon had a big impact off the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 17, 2021, 04:11:18 PM
Fine score.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ballsdotie/status/1394307633444700160
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: SouthDublinBro on May 17, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
Mayo fans ought to know their place and remain in this thread. There are too many of them commenting on events in the division one thread.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 17, 2021, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on May 17, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
Mayo fans ought to know their place and remain in this thread. There are too many of them commenting on events in the division one thread.

They are entitled to their opinion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 09:04:57 PM
That left footed point from the sideline by the Clare guy was something else.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 17, 2021, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 09:04:57 PM
That left footed point from the sideline by the Clare guy was something else.

Yeah Eoin Cleary that was . I think he kicked 0-10 points yesterday not 100% sure . It's looking like Laois will definitely be in the relegation semis . Most likely to be joined by Clare , Westmeath and Down
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 17, 2021, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on May 17, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
Mayo fans ought to know their place and remain in this thread. There are too many of them commenting on events in the division one thread.

Well then leave us alone here. ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: From the Bunker on May 17, 2021, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on May 17, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
Mayo fans ought to know their place and remain in this thread. There are too many of them commenting on events in the division one thread.

Yeah, we've always known our place. Just like you crowd used to know your place before money got involved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on May 19, 2021, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 09:04:57 PM
That left footed point from the sideline by the Clare guy was something else.
If Clifford done that there would be some fuss made. Unreal!
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on May 22, 2021, 08:28:52 AM
Meath vs Down

1. Andy Colgan

2. Seamus Lavin
3. Conor McGill
4. Ronan Ryan

5. Eoin Harkin
6. Shane McEntee
7. Donal Keoghan

8. Brian Menton
9. Padraic Harnan

10. Ethan Devine
11. Darragh Campion
12. Matthew Costello

13. Jordan Morris
14. Thomas O'Reilly
15. Cillian O'Sullivan
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 22, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Mayo's first 15 is unchanged from the Down game. Whether or not that team will start is another thing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 22, 2021, 03:38:51 PM
Westmeath holding their own against hot favourites Mayo. Half time Westmeath 2-5 Mayo 0-10

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: joemamas on May 22, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
A few observations on first half.
Mayo a better football team.
Westmeath with a man advantage play with 15 in their own half. Wtf.
Ref is a bit naive and or overly fussy, reminds me of that clown from Armagh Hughes.
Jordan Flynn cannot buy a free, then gets a very dubious booking.
Down the other side Egan leans/dives into lee Keegan. Free and a point.
Last but not least, Does Tomas o Se actually get paid for this, he is absolutely lazy and pathetic.
Paddy power should have an over under on his cliches for the second half. It will be over ten at least.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on May 22, 2021, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2021, 03:38:51 PM
Westmeath holding their own against hot favourites Mayo. Half time Westmeath 2-5 Mayo 0-10

Decent game - Westmeath possibly slightly fortunate to be up at the half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on May 22, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 22, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
Ref is a bit naive and or overly fussy, reminds me of that clown from Armagh Hughes.
Jordan Flynn cannot buy a free, then gets a very dubious booking.
Down the other side Egan leans/dives into lee Keegan. Free and a point.
Last but not least, Does Tomas o Se actually get paid for this, he is absolutely lazy and pathetic.
Paddy power should have an over under on his cliches for the second half. It will be over ten at least.

Westmeath got away with a pass straight back to the keeper for one of their short kickouts - ref missed it and looked like no Mayo player shouted for it. Very slack all around.
Flynn's yellow was surely for consistent fouling as opposed to the last foul he committed before getting the yellow being deemed a yellow card offence.
Egan leans/dives into lee Keegan. Free and a point. - The thing was Keegan made no effort to tackle the ball, no player can complain when they give away a cheap free like this. You have to at least make some pretence that the tackle is on the ball as opposed to on the man.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 22, 2021, 04:14:04 PM
52 minutes played 2nd water break. Mayo ahead by a mere 1 point. 0-13 to 2-6.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: joemamas on May 22, 2021, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 22, 2021, 03:45:08 PM
A few observations on first half.
Mayo a better football team.
Westmeath with a man advantage play with 15 in their own half. Wtf.
Ref is a bit naive and or overly fussy, reminds me of that clown from Armagh Hughes.
Jordan Flynn cannot buy a free, then gets a very dubious booking.
Down the other side Egan leans/dives into lee Keegan. Free and a point.
Last but not least, Does Tomas o Se actually get paid for this, he is absolutely lazy and pathetic.
Paddy power should have an over under on his cliches for the second half. It will be over ten at least.

Make the Cliche total by Tomas over 20.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 22, 2021, 04:37:30 PM
FT Westmeath 2-12 Mayo 0-21 . That hard earned win puts Mayo into the Div 2 semi final and 1 win away from promotion. 2 defeats for Westmeath but can take plenty of encouragement from their two competitive performances.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on May 22, 2021, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2021, 04:37:30 PM
FT Westmeath 2-12 Mayo 0-21 . That hard earned puts Mayo into the Div 2 semi final and 1 win away from promotion. 2 defeats for Westmeath but can take plenty of encouragement from their two competitive performances.

Slight bit of a dirty diesel performance by Mayo.
Agree about Westmeath - very solid, hard-working performance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: MayoBuck on May 22, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
A deserved win in the end for us but conceded a lot of goal chances. Hennelly saved one shot late on that would have levelled the game. Paddy Durcan our best player on the day.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 23, 2021, 07:25:08 PM
Clare fully deserving of another win against Kildare. Feck it, I thought with Gary Brennan gone we would dominate around the middle but no joy.

At the start we held them up well and we were sharp up top, but then there was role reversal and they freed up and we couldn't manage them. Christ but Kildare make some of the silliest mistakes of any higher division county.

Laois are in trouble now it seems and reading reports they missed a few sitters?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 23, 2021, 08:36:45 PM
Mayo and Meath are in the promotion playoffs from the Northern section. Clare v Cork will be very interesting next week. Probably the game for TG4. Kildare *should beat Laois, but I thought they'd be favourites against Clare after beating Cork and having home advantage this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Smurfy123 on May 23, 2021, 08:38:41 PM
What way does the relegation work?
And promotion
Too 4 semi finals and bottom 4?

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 23, 2021, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 23, 2021, 08:38:41 PM
What way does the relegation work?
And promotion
Too 4 semi finals and bottom 4?

Top of North v 2nd of South. Relegation the 3rd v 4th teams in each, losers go down. Winners of promotion playoffs go up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rosnarun on May 24, 2021, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on May 22, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
A deserved win in the end for us but conceded a lot of goal chances. Hennelly saved one shot late on that would have levelled the game. Paddy Durcan our best player on the day.
Durcan was incredible and getting better as the game went on. one game id say he wished never ended Well deserved captain this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on May 24, 2021, 02:38:49 PM
Comfortable win for us and could have won by a bit more but unlucky with a few goal chances. Down were poor though and really limited in attack.   

We're really missing a dedicated free taker because Colgan isn't quite there yet and only scoring 1 out of 5 kicks won't be good enough next weekend. Big game for us next week. We need to bounce back up into Division 1 if we're going to progress as a squad.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2021, 09:23:06 PM
Mayo 1 to 15 named. Probably not the actual team but here it is.

1 Rob Hennelly, 2 Eoin O'Donoghue, 3 Oisín Mullen, 4 Lee Keegan,  5 Michael Plunkett, 6 Stephen Coen (C), 7 Fergal Boland, 8 Mattie Ruane, 9 Diarmuid O'Connor, 10 Fionn McDonagh, 11 Darren McHale, 12 Bryan Walsh, 13 Paul Towey, 14 Cillian O'Connor, 15 James Carr.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Hound on May 29, 2021, 12:10:48 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2021, 09:23:06 PM
Mayo 1 to 15 named. Probably not the actual team but here it is.

1 Rob Hennelly, 2 Eoin O'Donoghue, 3 Oisín Mullen, 4 Lee Keegan,  5 Michael Plunkett, 6 Stephen Coen (C), 7 Fergal Boland, 8 Mattie Ruane, 9 Diarmuid O'Connor, 10 Fionn McDonagh, 11 Darren McHale, 12 Bryan Walsh, 13 Paul Towey, 14 Cillian O'Connor, 15 James Carr.
What's the name of the lad who won the RTE SAS army thingy last year? I thought he was getting very close, but is he still involved?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: From the Bunker on May 29, 2021, 02:59:29 AM
Quote from: Hound on May 29, 2021, 12:10:48 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2021, 09:23:06 PM
Mayo 1 to 15 named. Probably not the actual team but here it is.

1 Rob Hennelly, 2 Eoin O'Donoghue, 3 Oisín Mullen, 4 Lee Keegan,  5 Michael Plunkett, 6 Stephen Coen (C), 7 Fergal Boland, 8 Mattie Ruane, 9 Diarmuid O'Connor, 10 Fionn McDonagh, 11 Darren McHale, 12 Bryan Walsh, 13 Paul Towey, 14 Cillian O'Connor, 15 James Carr.
What's the name of the lad who won the RTE SAS army thingy last year? I thought he was getting very close, but is he still involved?

Padraig O'Hora Ballina Stephenites - in the squad presently AFAIK.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: galwayman on May 29, 2021, 08:16:15 AM
Always thought Eoin O Donoghue was a quality defender anytime I've seen him.
Could be a big add for Mayo this year.
Big chance for Paul Towey as well - scored heavily from play against us the last 2 years at u20
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 30, 2021, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 29, 2021, 02:59:29 AM
Quote from: Hound on May 29, 2021, 12:10:48 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2021, 09:23:06 PM
Mayo 1 to 15 named. Probably not the actual team but here it is.

1 Rob Hennelly, 2 Eoin O'Donoghue, 3 Oisín Mullen, 4 Lee Keegan,  5 Michael Plunkett, 6 Stephen Coen (C), 7 Fergal Boland, 8 Mattie Ruane, 9 Diarmuid O'Connor, 10 Fionn McDonagh, 11 Darren McHale, 12 Bryan Walsh, 13 Paul Towey, 14 Cillian O'Connor, 15 James Carr.
What's the name of the lad who won the RTE SAS army thingy last year? I thought he was getting very close, but is he still involved?

He came off the bench in last year's semi final after playing most of the league

Padraig O'Hora Ballina Stephenites - in the squad presently AFAIK.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 30, 2021, 09:30:32 AM
Mayo v Cork
Kildare v Meath

Semi finals.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 30, 2021, 02:33:53 PM
Can any Meath heads tell me how many of their start team today would be first choice players?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on May 30, 2021, 03:02:47 PM
Cork should beat Clare handy? Will they be playing Meath next week?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 30, 2021, 03:08:13 PM
Quote from: macker15 on May 30, 2021, 03:02:47 PM
Cork should beat Clare handy? Will they be playing Meath next week?
Why should they do that? Two evenly matched sides over the last few years and 1-15 to 0-18 with 9 minutes to go in this match.

Semi finals and play offs are in two weeks.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Solo_run on May 30, 2021, 03:16:23 PM
Westmeath have had about 5 goal scoring opportunities and missed them all. Too obsessed with creating goal chances when they could have brought the game back to a point.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Solo_run on May 30, 2021, 03:26:51 PM
WM could have levelled but went for goal and now Down has just taken a 2 point lead.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on May 30, 2021, 03:29:20 PM
Semi final line up draw required for home advantage.

Kildare v Meath
Clare v Mayo

Relegation play offs

Westmeath v Cork
Down v Laois

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2021, 06:51:18 AM
Cork and Down at home due to having no home games in the group stages, in the relegation battles.

PS, only heard the first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes of the Mayo game yesterday due to visitors.  >:(
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on May 31, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
Not much punishment for breaking Covid regulations.....getting the vital games at home!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: BennyCake on May 31, 2021, 10:52:57 AM
Why would Msyo and Clare even bother fielding? Sure there's no final anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on May 31, 2021, 10:57:35 AM
For Promotion!
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 31, 2021, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 31, 2021, 10:52:57 AM
Why would Msyo and Clare even bother fielding? Sure there's no final anyway.
its a promotion decider. Was no finals last year either. Team that finished top won the league 2nd got promotion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Godsown on May 31, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
Not much punishment for breaking Covid regulations.....getting the vital games at home!!

The reason they get home game is because they had less designated home games in group stage. Even if they had not been caught breaking the rules they would only have had 1 game at home as per draw. This was the rules at the outset.
The difference between Down Dublin, Cork and  Monaghan and 28 other counties is they got caught and the others who were flouting regulations didn't .
The four got their punishment and served it. Why should it be altered now to suit someone else's agenda.
Breaking the regulations was wrong but not only for those caught. The hypocrisy surrounding this is shocking
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2021, 12:59:49 PM
Clare at home to Mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: BennyCake on May 31, 2021, 02:37:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2021, 10:57:35 AM
For Promotion!

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Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: BennyCake on May 31, 2021, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Godsown on May 31, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
Not much punishment for breaking Covid regulations.....getting the vital games at home!!

The reason they get home game is because they had less designated home games in group stage. Even if they had not been caught breaking the rules they would only have had 1 game at home as per draw. This was the rules at the outset.
The difference between Down Dublin, Cork and  Monaghan and 28 other counties is they got caught and the others who were flouting regulations didn't .
The four got their punishment and served it. Why should it be altered now to suit someone else's agenda.
Breaking the regulations was wrong but not only for those caught. The hypocrisy surrounding this is shocking

Half the teams get 4 home games normally in the nfl and half only get 3 home games. Nobody complains then. What's different now?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 31, 2021, 02:47:18 PM
Kildare v Meath Sunday, June 13th 2pm in Newbridge it seems.

200 fans allowed if I am right?

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: 6th sam on May 31, 2021, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
Not much punishment for breaking Covid regulations.....getting the vital games at home!!

The round Robin and playoff home venue allocation confers advantages but the GAA had to come up with a fair formula for a truncated season . Ironically , given the break this Sunday before the playoffs, a full league of 7 games without playoffs would only have added two weeks to the truncated round Robin with playoffs solution .
I'd be slow to criticise fixture makers because they had to try to provide clarity and fairness in an unpredictable environment.
Tbf Rossfan, Down have already been punished by getting no home games to date, even after the playoff Laois will have had more home games than Down this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: BennyCake on May 31, 2021, 06:19:31 PM
All semis and playoffs should be neutral venues.

The home/away ratio of games are uneven every year in NFL.  The slate should have been wiped clean after the mini leagues.

And taking Tyrone to Kerry is madness. They could go all that way, and win, yet not get to play in a league final!
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Eire90 on May 31, 2021, 07:03:33 PM
They could have done the group winners play in the final and the 2nd place teams play 3rd place playoff instead of the situation we are in now i only suggesting a 3rd place game because it would give each game team a 4th game but you can scrap that too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2021, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on May 31, 2021, 07:03:33 PM
They could have done the group winners play in the final and the 2nd place teams play 3rd place playoff instead of the situation we are in now i only suggesting a 3rd place game because it would give each game team a 4th game but you can scrap that too.

I'd scrap it. It'd be nothing more than a glorified friendly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: UpMeeyo on June 08, 2021, 09:48:47 PM
At present, It looks like theres really only 2-3 positions up for grabs/undecided really on the mayo team.

In the half back line - 4 players battling for 3 positions - Durcan nailed on - mclaughlin/coen/plunkett for the other 2

Corner Back - In an injury free world Harrison slots in, Enda Hession/Ben Doyle/Eoin O donoghue the three men given a shot during the league, very hard to say who is the front runner there. Looks like O Hora has gone back in the pecking order altogether. Without Harrison Id be trying to put Coen back there. We'll probably know more after Sunday on who is the frontrunner here.

HF line - Anyone's guess - Bryan Walsh the man who put his hand up most in the league. Definitely the most unsettled line - By virtue of not disrupting a FF line of ROD/COC/Tommy Conroy, I think Aidan o shea will probably come in at 11 or else Aidan at midfield and Diarmuid moves to HF, this would leave one spot in HF line - could be Jordan Flynn/Jason Doherty/Fionn McDonagh/Kevin McLoughlin/Boland/Loftus etc etc - you'd be brave to predict who takes that shirt at present.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 11, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Mayo team to play Clare:

Rob Hennelly;
Enda Hession, Oisin Mullin, Lee Keegan;
Rory Brickenden, Paddy Durcan, Stephen Coen;
Matthew Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor;
Fergal Boland, Darren McHale, Bryan Walsh;
Tommy Conroy, Cillian O'Connor, Ryan O'Donoghue.

Kildare team to play Meath:

Mark Donnellan;
Mark Dempsey, Mick O'Grady, Eoin Doyle;
Kevin Flynn, David Hyland, Ryan Houlihan;
Luke Flynn, Kevin Feely;
Fergal Conway, Neil Flynn, Paul Cribbin;
Jimmy Hyland, Daniel Flynn, Darragh Kirwan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: larryin89 on June 11, 2021, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Mayo team to play Clare:

Rob Hennelly;
Enda Hession, Oisin Mullin, Lee Keegan;
Rory Brickenden, Paddy Durcan, Stephen Coen;
Matthew Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor;
Fergal Boland, Darren McHale, Bryan Walsh;
Tommy Conroy, Cillian O'Connor, Ryan O'Donoghue.

Kildare team to play Meath:

Mark Donnellan;
Mark Dempsey, Mick O'Grady, Eoin Doyle;
Kevin Flynn, David Hyland, Ryan Houlihan;
Luke Flynn, Kevin Feely;
Fergal Conway, Neil Flynn, Paul Cribbin;
Jimmy Hyland, Daniel Flynn, Darragh Kirwan.

Carr misses out after scoring 2-1 from play , yet boland starts . Cant see what's happening in training i suppose . Eoin o Donoghue dropped for hession who looks about two stone too light for county yet .
Horan has been an absolute revelation for mayo football and will be long remembered for making us serious but I just dont get some of his line of thought at all . Defensive structure is so easily exposed because of no protection too . If he doesnt want to play a sweeper he cant allow Mullen and Keegan to push up , it's just bollix , how many goal chances do we giveaway every game . Its farcical in the sense its gung ho but shur let Mullen play further up the pitch then if that's your philosophy,  its like it's a cotradicion of sorts .
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Half time Westmeath 0-14 Cork 0-12. Good value for that lead and could be further ahead if Westmeath had taken their 3 goal chances. Why is no fans at this match today?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 12, 2021, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Half time Westmeath 0-14 Cork 0-12. Good value for that lead and could be further ahead if Westmeath had taken their 3 goal chances. Why is no fans at this match today?

When have you ever seen Cork fans at a Cork game?? 🤣🤣
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 12, 2021, 02:57:12 PM
John Heslin earning his frees. Cork boys blows up with wind  and gets handy free.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 12, 2021, 03:00:51 PM
Game over
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 12, 2021, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 11, 2021, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Mayo team to play Clare:

Rob Hennelly;
Enda Hession, Oisin Mullin, Lee Keegan;
Rory Brickenden, Paddy Durcan, Stephen Coen;
Matthew Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor;
Fergal Boland, Darren McHale, Bryan Walsh;
Tommy Conroy, Cillian O'Connor, Ryan O'Donoghue.

Kildare team to play Meath:

Mark Donnellan;
Mark Dempsey, Mick O'Grady, Eoin Doyle;
Kevin Flynn, David Hyland, Ryan Houlihan;
Luke Flynn, Kevin Feely;
Fergal Conway, Neil Flynn, Paul Cribbin;
Jimmy Hyland, Daniel Flynn, Darragh Kirwan.

Carr misses out after scoring 2-1 from play , yet boland starts . Cant see what's happening in training i suppose . Eoin o Donoghue dropped for hession who looks about two stone too light for county yet .
Horan has been an absolute revelation for mayo football and will be long remembered for making us serious but I just dont get some of his line of thought at all . Defensive structure is so easily exposed because of no protection too . If he doesnt want to play a sweeper he cant allow Mullen and Keegan to push up , it's just bollix , how many goal chances do we giveaway every game . Its farcical in the sense its gung ho but shur let Mullen play further up the pitch then if that's your philosophy,  its like it's a cotradicion of sorts .

That team won't start larry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 12, 2021, 03:18:31 PM
Cork 2-17 Westmeath 0-19 53 mins played. Two Cork goals in a few minutes has swung this contest and both goals was errors in the Westmeath defence.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: armaghniac on June 12, 2021, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 12, 2021, 03:18:31 PM
Cork 2-17 Westmeath 0-19 53 mins played. Two Cork goals in a few minutes has swung this contest and both goals was errors in the Westmeath defence.

Excellent defence not really a characteristic of this game, and Cork should have had a fourth.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 13, 2021, 06:54:27 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 12, 2021, 03:18:31 PM
Cork 2-17 Westmeath 0-19 53 mins played. Two Cork goals in a few minutes has swung this contest and both goals was errors in the Westmeath defence.

A tough one for Westmeath as they ran Meath and ourselves close in the opening two rounds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 08:44:05 AM
Ray Connellan was big loss for Westmeath when went off injured. The 15 Dolan any relation of Dessie?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 08:45:28 AM
Would expect Mayo and Kildare to win well today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: shark on June 13, 2021, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 08:44:05 AM
Ray Connellan was big loss for Westmeath when went off injured. The 15 Dolan any relation of Dessie?

I don't think so. He plays with Castledaly who are just a short spin from Garrycastle. You'd imagine he'd have played with Garrycastle if related to those Dolans. No parish rule in Westmeath.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 13, 2021, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 12, 2021, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 11, 2021, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Mayo team to play Clare:

Rob Hennelly;
Enda Hession, Oisin Mullin, Lee Keegan;
Rory Brickenden, Paddy Durcan, Stephen Coen;
Matthew Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor;
Fergal Boland, Darren McHale, Bryan Walsh;
Tommy Conroy, Cillian O'Connor, Ryan O'Donoghue.

Kildare team to play Meath:

Mark Donnellan;
Mark Dempsey, Mick O'Grady, Eoin Doyle;
Kevin Flynn, David Hyland, Ryan Houlihan;
Luke Flynn, Kevin Feely;
Fergal Conway, Neil Flynn, Paul Cribbin;
Jimmy Hyland, Daniel Flynn, Darragh Kirwan.

Carr misses out after scoring 2-1 from play , yet boland starts . Cant see what's happening in training i suppose . Eoin o Donoghue dropped for hession who looks about two stone too light for county yet .
Horan has been an absolute revelation for mayo football and will be long remembered for making us serious but I just dont get some of his line of thought at all . Defensive structure is so easily exposed because of no protection too . If he doesnt want to play a sweeper he cant allow Mullen and Keegan to push up , it's just bollix , how many goal chances do we giveaway every game . Its farcical in the sense its gung ho but shur let Mullen play further up the pitch then if that's your philosophy,  its like it's a cotradicion of sorts .

That team won't start larry.
Yes yet another Horan dummy team.  Kevin McLoughlin comes into the starting 15 in place of Fergal Boland and Aidan O'Shea comes in in place of Darren McHale
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 13, 2021, 02:30:19 PM
Half time Clare 0-8 Mayo 2-13.  Was a competitive game until Mayo converted that penalty. Mayo fitness as good if not better than any Div 1 team this year. Cillian O'Connor went off injured towards the end of that half, no need to take chances when this game is already won.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
Niall Cullen afraid to book the Mayo lads.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 13, 2021, 03:08:26 PM
If anyone runs at us in championship we're frigged.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 13, 2021, 03:24:56 PM
Full time Clare 2-18 Mayo 2-22. Brave effort by Clare in that 2nd half, went down fighting. Mayo won't be too pleased by the defending especially the manner they conceded both goals.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 03:30:08 PM
Stephen Coen lying down smiling and then clutches the head. Too much of this nowadays from every team. Someday a player will be seriously injured and referee wont stop as think playacting is going on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 04:30:41 PM
The annual Rossies implosion against Ulster opposition continues.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on June 13, 2021, 05:10:43 PM
Didn't get to see it but pretty brutal from us by all accounts. Not sure when Menton got injured and the sending offs happened but didn't seem like we were in it at all. Disappointing to have such a poor performance after resting the lads for the Mayo game. Considering we're not going to win Leinster this was a very important game for us and we're not delivering. Not seeing the depth in the panel anymore. Offaly Louth Westmeath and Kildare could all stop us this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2021, 05:54:56 PM
Oh to be in Ulster or Connacht and genuinely believe you have a chance at provincial honours. Finished with a very young team today. Kildare's attitude was good, Meath look like they need to freshen up management. Old heads pulled them back into it and remarkable considering Kildare's dominance for 60 mins almost pulled something out of it but not what you want to see when trying to develop and build a squad. So many teams lie between 3rd ranked and 14th ranked that it would be an exciting championship if Dublin and Kerry didn't exist. Well maybe just Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2021, 05:54:56 PM
Oh to be in Ulster or Connacht and genuinely believe you have a chance at provincial honours. Finished with a very young team today. Kildare's attitude was good, Meath look like they need to freshen up management. Old heads pulled them back into it and remarkable considering Kildare's dominance for 60 mins almost pulled something out of it but not what you want to see when trying to develop and build a squad. So many teams lie between 3rd ranked and 14th ranked that it would be an exciting championship if Dublin and Kerry didn't exist. Well maybe just Dublin.

Forget about Connacht been competitive.  The rossies,  Galway and Sligo beaten today. Mayo have the title in bag. Let Clare back into game in second half. Damage was done in first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2021, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 04:30:41 PM
The annual Rossies implosion against Ulster opposition continues.
More like Armagh was due a win against the rossies after losing the previous few games against them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2021, 05:54:56 PM
Oh to be in Ulster or Connacht and genuinely believe you have a chance at provincial honours. Finished with a very young team today. Kildare's attitude was good, Meath look like they need to freshen up management. Old heads pulled them back into it and remarkable considering Kildare's dominance for 60 mins almost pulled something out of it but not what you want to see when trying to develop and build a squad. So many teams lie between 3rd ranked and 14th ranked that it would be an exciting championship if Dublin and Kerry didn't exist. Well maybe just Dublin.

Kildare need to delf into transfer market like 98 that got ye over line.  I heard Eanna  Jacko son transferred back to Kerry
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 13, 2021, 08:18:50 PM
Kildare a funny side, plenty expected them to gain promoted to Div 1 last year and this year not as many people fancied them.  Mayos stay in Div 2 was short as expected. for all the talk of a "new" team Mayo still relying on the old guard and Clare only got back into that game after two of them (O'Connor brothers) was forced off with injuries

Div 2 next year looks very hard to call.

Galway,Roscommon,Meath,Clare,Down,Cork,Derry,Offaly

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 09:24:35 PM
Kildare lad spat at Meath player. Disgusting act.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40312850.html%3ftype=amp
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 13, 2021, 09:35:20 PM
Yes indeed Cunny. Mayo only scored 9 points in the second half and my heart was in my mouth until they scored the last point to make it four. Whilst not sounding too arrogant, I did expect us to win today. We're either a serious football county or we're not. I did expect Clare would put it up to us however partly because we never put teams to the sword fully and our defensive 'system'. COC's injury just proves how valuable he is to the team. The forwards struggled to penetrate the Clare backs and if he was there, I think he might have steadied the ship up front. Job done however and promotion secured. Lots to work on in the coming weeks if Connacht is to be retained, especially if Cillian is out for a lengthy period.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 13, 2021, 10:04:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 13, 2021, 09:35:20 PM
Yes indeed Cunny. Mayo only scored 9 points in the second half and my heart was in my mouth until they scored the last point to make it four. Whilst not sounding too arrogant, I did expect us to win today. We're either a serious football county or we're not. I did expect Clare would put it up to us however partly because we never put teams to the sword fully and our defensive 'system'. COC's injury just proves how valuable he is to the team. The forwards struggled to penetrate the Clare backs and if he was there, I think he might have steadied the ship up front. Job done however and promotion secured. Lots to work on in the coming weeks if Connacht is to be retained, especially if Cillian is out for a lengthy period.

How serious is O'Connor injury? Was it knee or ankle?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2021, 10:18:18 PM
What height that lad middle of the field for Clare, seemed to have a few inches over O'Shea.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Gael85 on June 13, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2021, 10:18:18 PM
What height that lad middle of the field for Clare, seemed to have a few inches over O'Shea.

Darren O'Neill 6ft 6
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 14, 2021, 12:06:06 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 13, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2021, 10:18:18 PM
What height that lad middle of the field for Clare, seemed to have a few inches over O'Shea.

Darren O'Neill 6ft 6

He looked to injured for the majority of the match, limping around a lot with a bandage on his knee
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Gael85 on June 14, 2021, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2021, 12:06:06 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 13, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2021, 10:18:18 PM
What height that lad middle of the field for Clare, seemed to have a few inches over O'Shea.

Darren O'Neill 6ft 6

He looked to injured for the majority of the match, limping around a lot with a bandage on his knee

He got a knee in the back and elbow in head from AOS in first 5 minutes. O'Shea dominated him around the middle after that.  He only came into game when went to full forward.  Did he bundle ball over for goal not given? I know Clare got  goal a minute later.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 14, 2021, 12:48:54 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 14, 2021, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2021, 12:06:06 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 13, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 13, 2021, 10:18:18 PM
What height that lad middle of the field for Clare, seemed to have a few inches over O'Shea.

Darren O'Neill 6ft 6

He looked to injured for the majority of the match, limping around a lot with a bandage on his knee

He got a knee in the back and elbow in head from AOS in first 5 minutes. O'Shea dominated him around the middle after that.  He only came into game when went to full forward.  Did he bundle ball over for goal not given? I know Clare got  goal a minute later.
The ball was clearly over the line but officials thought otherwise.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 14, 2021, 11:05:30 AM
Ya know the old saying about somebody snatching victory from the jaws of defeat?
I'm afraid in Mayo we tend to do things arseways and yesterday was a perfect example of this. Over the years, aAttempting to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory has been far more likely to happen and it could well have happened in Ennis.
Countless times over the years, Horan's teams have played scintillating football early on and could/should have been out of sight by half time, only to lose the plot in the second half and be left hangin on in the end if they are lucky.
They were lucky yesterday and make no mistake about it. Like against Westmeath, they were 7 to 8 points a better side yesterday and still just about managed to hang on at the end. I can't see Sligo beating us but, from there on, we could be riding our luck.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rosnarun on June 15, 2021, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 14, 2021, 11:05:30 AM
Ya know the old saying about somebody snatching victory from the jaws of defeat?
I'm afraid in Mayo we tend to do things arseways and yesterday was a perfect example of this. Over the years, aAttempting to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory has been far more likely to happen and it could well have happened in Ennis.
Countless times over the years, Horan's teams have played scintillating football early on and could/should have been out of sight by half time, only to lose the plot in the second half and be left hangin on in the end if they are lucky.
They were lucky yesterday and make no mistake about it. Like against Westmeath, they were 7 to 8 points a better side yesterday and still just about managed to hang on at the end. I can't see Sligo beating us but, from there on, we could be riding our luck.


dont see how  you can say mayo were lucky yesterday . they were in front all the way and even if they dosed off a bit in the 2nd half they still never looked like losing. nor can i see where being lucky come into it losing the 2 o connors . Cillian esp looks very worrying . any team would miss  the all time best scorer
and some bull shit artist above was saying mayo still relying on old crowd .1 the old crowd  have mainly left the scene and Boyler never gets a look in . a lot of these guy are still learning their way in senior football but 13 different scorers suggest they are taking lessons on board
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: APM on June 15, 2021, 07:13:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2021, 05:54:56 PMOh to be in Ulster or Connacht and genuinely believe you have a chance at provincial honours. Finished with a very young team today. Kildare's attitude was good, Meath look like they need to freshen up management. Old heads pulled them back into it and remarkable considering Kildare's dominance for 60 mins almost pulled something out of it but not what you want to see when trying to develop and build a squad. So many teams lie between 3rd ranked and 14th ranked that it would be an exciting championship if Dublin and Kerry didn't exist. Well maybe just Dublin.

McEntee comes across very reactionary. You would imagine this year will be the end of the road for him. 
Hard to believe that Meath are where they are. Boylan was there for 23 years and in the 16 years since they have had 6 managers and done nothing.  With their populations, Meath and Kildare should be doing so much better.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 15, 2021, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 15, 2021, 04:38:24 PM
some bull shit artist above was saying mayo still relying on old crowd .1 the old crowd  have mainly left the scene and Boyler never gets a look in . a lot of these guy are still learning their way in senior football but 13 different scorers suggest they are taking lessons on board

The O'Connor brothers are part of the old guard. One made his senior County debut in 2011 the other in 2014. Both remaining on the field instead of going off in the 1st half and Mayo would have won that match far more comfortably.

The core of the current Mayo starting team is seasoned campaigners who have played in numerous All-Ireland semi finals or finals. Hennelly, Durcan, Keegan, Coen, D O'Connor, K McLoughlin, A O'Shea, C O'Connor and plus a few more options off the bench in  Doherty, Boyle, Harrison likely there for the upcoming championship.

All players that Mayo rely on nowadays and if you want to think differently and think it's a "new" Mayo team well go ahead and knock yourself out.

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: larryin89 on June 15, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
Yiu dont just change the whole team in a transition period, ffs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Blowitupref on June 15, 2021, 08:47:01 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 15, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
Yiu dont just change the whole team in a transition period, ffs.

Some in the media would led you to believe that Mayo did change their whole team. The likes of Mullin, McLaughlin, Conroy are bedding into a ideal environment of so many experienced players to play along side with and Horan of course whos into his 7th year as Mayo manager to guide them along.

Achilles is the rumoured injury Cillian O'Connor has got if true he'll probably miss all of the Connacht championship campaign.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 15, 2021, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 15, 2021, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 14, 2021, 11:05:30 AM
Ya know the old saying about somebody snatching victory from the jaws of defeat?
I'm afraid in Mayo we tend to do things arseways and yesterday was a perfect example of this. Over the years, aAttempting to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory has been far more likely to happen and it could well have happened in Ennis.
Countless times over the years, Horan's teams have played scintillating football early on and could/should have been out of sight by half time, only to lose the plot in the second half and be left hangin on in the end if they are lucky.
They were lucky yesterday and make no mistake about it. Like against Westmeath, they were 7 to 8 points a better side yesterday and still just about managed to hang on at the end. I can't see Sligo beating us but, from there on, we could be riding our luck.


dont see how  you can say mayo were lucky yesterday . they were in front all the way and even if they dosed off a bit in the 2nd half they still never looked like losing. nor can i see where being lucky come into it losing the 2 o connors . Cillian esp looks very worrying . any team would miss  the all time best scorer
and some bull shit artist above was saying mayo still relying on old crowd .1 the old crowd  have mainly left the scene and Boyler never gets a look in . a lot of these guy are still learning their way in senior football but 13 different scorers suggest they are taking lessons on board
Mayo were 11 points ahead at the break and looked to be in a different class. I was still nervous because Mayo has a long-standing tradition of failing to close out games they should be able to win by double scores. I'd say if Dublin or Kerry and about a half dozen others had such a lead at the break, they wouldn't let the opposition take the game to them in the second half.
Mayo were still 10 points ahead by their 45th minute and then they were down to one single score with a few minutes left.  Having conceded two soft goals already, there was every chance they would have leaked another one.
Sure, they hung in and the last point was the insurance score but they made very hard work of winning.
Also, I think we'd have made no mistake about it a long before the end if the OConnors hadn't gone off but the damage was done at the other end.Mayo's defence is decidely shaky.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: larryin89 on June 15, 2021, 09:52:50 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 15, 2021, 08:47:01 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 15, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
Yiu dont just change the whole team in a transition period, ffs.

Some in the media would led you to believe that Mayo did change their whole team. The likes of Mullin, McLaughlin, Conroy are bedding into a ideal environment of so many experienced players to play along side with and Horan of course whos into his 7th year as Mayo manager to guide them along.

Achilles is the rumoured injury Cillian O'Connor has got if true he'll probably miss all of the Connacht championship campaign.

Rumour is Achilles but I've been told through rumour of course its lights out for the season
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2021, 11:41:43 AM
Quote from: APM on June 15, 2021, 07:13:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2021, 05:54:56 PMOh to be in Ulster or Connacht and genuinely believe you have a chance at provincial honours. Finished with a very young team today. Kildare's attitude was good, Meath look like they need to freshen up management. Old heads pulled them back into it and remarkable considering Kildare's dominance for 60 mins almost pulled something out of it but not what you want to see when trying to develop and build a squad. So many teams lie between 3rd ranked and 14th ranked that it would be an exciting championship if Dublin and Kerry didn't exist. Well maybe just Dublin.

McEntee comes across very reactionary. You would imagine this year will be the end of the road for him. 
Hard to believe that Meath are where they are. Boylan was there for 23 years and in the 16 years since they have had 6 managers and done nothing.  With their populations, Meath and Kildare should be doing so much better.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: moysider on June 16, 2021, 12:42:50 PM
Cillian O Connor going to be out for the Summer with damaged Achilles.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 16, 2021, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 16, 2021, 12:42:50 PM
Cillian O Connor going to be out for the Summer with damaged Achilles.
ffs. That really is a shame.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: APM on June 16, 2021, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2021, 11:41:43 AM
Quote from: APM on June 15, 2021, 07:13:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2021, 05:54:56 PMOh to be in Ulster or Connacht and genuinely believe you have a chance at provincial honours. Finished with a very young team today. Kildare's attitude was good, Meath look like they need to freshen up management. Old heads pulled them back into it and remarkable considering Kildare's dominance for 60 mins almost pulled something out of it but not what you want to see when trying to develop and build a squad. So many teams lie between 3rd ranked and 14th ranked that it would be an exciting championship if Dublin and Kerry didn't exist. Well maybe just Dublin.

McEntee comes across very reactionary. You would imagine this year will be the end of the road for him. 
Hard to believe that Meath are where they are. Boylan was there for 23 years and in the 16 years since they have had 6 managers and done nothing.  With their populations, Meath and Kildare should be doing so much better.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

I agree with that the financial doping of Dublin is a major problem.  But we have teams in Ulster (Donegal, Tyrone), Connacht (Mayo) and Munster (Kerry) that will at least give Dublin the semblance of a game.  Meath and Kildare haven't even been close to that standard, yet benefit from some of the same factors (population) that have helped Dublin and probably don't exist in some of the other Division 1 teams.  They should be in a more competitive position than what they are. It's like they have given up the ghost at all levels. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rodney trotter on June 16, 2021, 02:34:50 PM
Kildare haven't done too bad underage recently
They should look to trial having all the Leinster games outside of Croke Park including the final. 
Dublin would still likely win but make it competitive if nothing else.
It should have been done years ago  but the other Leinster counties don't seem to make any objections because of finance

Last year with no crowds the games didn't need to be in Coker for Leinster
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 16, 2021, 09:16:57 PM
Does Andy McEntee owe Kildare an apology??

https://www.radiokerry.ie/sport/kildare-gaa-chairman-has-no-knowledge-of-spitting-incident-in-game-against-meath-240054
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 16, 2021, 09:25:00 PM
Hello Div 2.
I've a feeling we could be here for a longer stay this time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 16, 2021, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2021, 09:25:00 PM
Hello Div 2.
I've a feeling we could be here for a longer stay this time.
I wouldn't think it. No one in D2 look like pulling up trees. Yourselves and Galway should be aiming to come straight back up!
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: macker15 on June 16, 2021, 10:58:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2021, 09:25:00 PM
Hello Div 2.
I've a feeling we could be here for a longer stay this time.

Yerra
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rosnarun on June 17, 2021, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 16, 2021, 02:34:50 PM
Kildare haven't done too bad underage recently
They should look to trial having all the Leinster games outside of Croke Park including the final. 
Dublin would still likely win but make it competitive if nothing else.
It should have been done years ago  but the other Leinster counties don't seem to make any objections because of finance

Last year with no crowds the games didn't need to be in Coker for Leinster
yeah move the whole thing to newbridge
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 17, 2021, 11:14:49 AM
I agree here in this sense that Kildare people will rightly say how hard it is to compete with the Dubs, but every county could suffer at their hands and even if you look at All-Ireland semi-finals and finals you see that.

BUT, there is no reason why Meath and Kildare should not be harnessing their advantages to perform at Division 1 level. There was a survey done years back and Kildare were one of the very few teams that did not have a single player travelling from outside the county to train.

Maynooth University give lads scholarships and we are on Dublin's doorstep with options at the PWCs and KPMGs too. And many of our lads do beat the Dubs at underage but then at senior it just all falls away.

PS I come in peace on this one and I will say IF it is true I am disgusted BUT with professional TV and Press cameras zoomed in on the row v Meath there seems to be no evidence at all of the spit. I saw a Meath lad dropping the knee on a Kildare player's head mind.
Like surely something would have been thrown up at this stage?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 17, 2021, 11:41:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 17, 2021, 11:14:49 AM
I agree here in this sense that Kildare people will rightly say how hard it is to compete with the Dubs, but every county could suffer at their hands and even if you looks at All-Ireland semi-finals and finals you see that.

BUT, there is no reason why Meath and Kildare should not be harnessing their advantages to perform at Division 1 level. There was a survey done years back and Kildare were one of the very few teams that did not have a single player travelling from outside the county to train.

Maynooth University give lads scholarships and we are on Dublin's doorstep with options at the PWCs and KPMGs too. And many of our lads do beat the Dubs at underage but then at senior it just all falls away.

PS I come in peace on this one and I will say IF it is true I am disgusted BUT with professional TV and Press cameras zoomed in on the row v Meath there seems to be no evidence at all of the spit. I saw a Meath lad dropping the knee on a Kildare player's head mind.
Like surely something would have been thrown up at this stage?
With the ever increasing populations of both those counties they should definitely be operating in D1, at a higher level than ourselves and Monaghan for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Laois Rising on June 17, 2021, 12:27:45 PM
This argument that Kildare and Meath should be doing better than they are is slightly unfair. It is exceptionally hard to maintain positively, motivate players, develop a team long term when you are coming up against Dublin season after season in the Leinster championship. Having to try overcome them year in, year out to win a provincial title would take the wind out of any teams sails. Take the Kildare team of 2017 that lost to Dublin by 8/9 points in a Leinster final with nearly a full compliment of their best players available at the time and playing some fantastic football- I think they scored 1-17 on the day. That Kildare team was at its peak and still fell well short ultimately of the Dubs. Very hard to come back the following year with the same enthusiasm and dedication knowing that even if you do everything right again you are still going to fall short. In other provinces you still have that carrot of if you get things right you could challenge for a provincial title- that what keeps players motivated and returning year on year with some enthusiasm for playing intercounty football e.g. counties like Roscommon, Cavan, Monaghan, Cork who can realistically target provincial titles. Counties like Laois, Westmeath and Meath who would be of a similar standard to some of these counties cannot.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2021, 12:33:25 PM
In Counties like Cavan, Ros, Monaghan etc Gaelic football is the only serious sport.
That wouldn't be the case in all those big half jackeen commuter towns where a large proportion of the population of Meath and Kikdare live.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2021, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2021, 12:33:25 PM
In Counties like Cavan, Ros, Monaghan etc Gaelic football is the only serious sport.
That wouldn't be the case in all those big half jackeen commuter towns where a large proportion of the population of Meath and Kikdare live.

Number of football teams registered in 2020



Cork   1525
Dublin   1443
Meath   808
Kildare   778
Tipperary   667
Kerry   643
Mayo   627
Galway   575
Donegal   524
Louth   522
Limerick   501
Tyrone   495
Waterford   462
Wexford   418
Down   380
Cavan   379
Clare   344
Armagh   335
Antrim   319
Monaghan   314
Derry   303
Wicklow   301
Roscommon   293
Westmeath   293
Laois   281
Sligo   253
Longford   231
Kilkenny   226
Offaly   213
Fermanagh   206
Carlow   166
Leitrim   162

Number of football teams registered in 2009



Cork      1300
Dublin      918
Kerry      631
Meath      590
Tipperary      584
Galway      542
Tyrone      534
Limerick      512
Mayo      491
Kildare      483
Donegal      450
Louth      426
Wexford      419
Antrim      385
Cavan      363
Armagh      353
Down      346
Waterford      309
Clare      294
Derry      289
Kilkenny      283
Monaghan      282
Wicklow      277
Westmeath      240
Laois      238
Roscommon      215
Sligo      210
Leitrim      188
Carlow      178
Longford      172
Offaly      166
Fermanagh      152

Change in number of registered football teams



Cork   225
Dublin   525
Kerry   12
Meath   218
Tipperary   83
Galway   33
Tyrone   -39
Limerick   -11
Mayo   136
Kildare   295
Donegal   74
Louth   96
Wexford   -1
Antrim   -66
Cavan   16
Armagh   -18
Down   34
Waterford   153
Clare   50
Derry   14
Kilkenny   -57
Monaghan   32
Wicklow   24
Westmeath   53
Laois   43
Roscommon   78
Sligo   43
Leitrim   -26
Carlow   -12
Longford   59
Offaly   47
Fermanagh   54

Population in Ireland increased by about 536k over this time period.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: MayoBuck on June 17, 2021, 01:36:05 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 17, 2021, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2021, 12:33:25 PM
In Counties like Cavan, Ros, Monaghan etc Gaelic football is the only serious sport.
That wouldn't be the case in all those big half jackeen commuter towns where a large proportion of the population of Meath and Kikdare live.

Number of football teams registered in 2020



Cork   1525
Dublin   1443
Meath   808
Kildare   778
Tipperary   667
Kerry   643
Mayo   627
Galway   575
Donegal   524
Louth   522
Limerick   501
Tyrone   495
Waterford   462
Wexford   418
Down   380
Cavan   379
Clare   344
Armagh   335
Antrim   319
Monaghan   314
Derry   303
Wicklow   301
Roscommon   293
Westmeath   293
Laois   281
Sligo   253
Longford   231
Kilkenny   226
Offaly   213
Fermanagh   206
Carlow   166
Leitrim   162

Number of football teams registered in 2009



Cork      1300
Dublin      918
Kerry      631
Meath      590
Tipperary      584
Galway      542
Tyrone      534
Limerick      512
Mayo      491
Kildare      483
Donegal      450
Louth      426
Wexford      419
Antrim      385
Cavan      363
Armagh      353
Down      346
Waterford      309
Clare      294
Derry      289
Kilkenny      283
Monaghan      282
Wicklow      277
Westmeath      240
Laois      238
Roscommon      215
Sligo      210
Leitrim      188
Carlow      178
Longford      172
Offaly      166
Fermanagh      152

Change in number of registered football teams



Cork   225
Dublin   525
Kerry   12
Meath   218
Tipperary   83
Galway   33
Tyrone   -39
Limerick   -11
Mayo   136
Kildare   295
Donegal   74
Louth   96
Wexford   -1
Antrim   -66
Cavan   16
Armagh   -18
Down   34
Waterford   153
Clare   50
Derry   14
Kilkenny   -57
Monaghan   32
Wicklow   24
Westmeath   53
Laois   43
Roscommon   78
Sligo   43
Leitrim   -26
Carlow   -12
Longford   59
Offaly   47
Fermanagh   54

Population in Ireland increased by about 536k over this time period.

Is that adult and underage club teams? Strange there has been such an increase in Mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2021, 02:09:47 PM
Are those football and hurling teams?
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rosnarun on June 17, 2021, 02:12:49 PM
and the mayo population has hardly changed , it may even have gone down.

thios figurealso show what wastage there has been in dublin huge amount of promotion offivers in a massively growing city and  'The greatest team of all time' and nearly 500 teams fewer .any other reason why?
other than the PIKe footbal they are now playing compare to even a few years ago
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 17, 2021, 02:22:17 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 17, 2021, 02:12:49 PM
and the mayo population has hardly changed , it may even have gone down.

thios figurealso show what wastage there has been in dublin huge amount of promotion offivers in a massively growing city and  'The greatest team of all time' and nearly 500 teams fewer .any other reason why?
other than the PIKe footbal they are now playing compare to even a few years ago

You mean there's been an increase of 500 teams.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 17, 2021, 02:50:11 PM
I do agree that Dublin in the province is a massive downer but I still think the resources are not being put to use. There is an odd thing in Kildare where many of the big towns are simply not harnessing their populations either.

Like Leixlip and Kilcock are intermediate for example despite growing populations in the north of the county. Meanwhile the champions, Clogherinkoe, are a rural half-parish team. Now I know you can have great teams from small bases, but overall there is an issue grabbing 'blow-ins' for want of a better phrase in Kildare and Meath.

Dublin are the monster that would ruin any province if truth be told.

Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2021, 03:06:47 PM
Adult and underage football teams.
No hurling in the previous figures.
[Dublin has shown similar increases in the number of hurling teams over the same time period - 637 hurling teams in 2009 to 1,141 hurling teams in 2020]

The Dublin increase hasn't really fed through to senior level yet.

173 adult football teams in 2009
201 adult football teams in 2020
An increase of 28 in the number of adult football teams versus an increase of 497 in non-adult football teams [these are underage plus U21/U20 (the change from the U21 age grade to U20 means it's not an exact like-for-like comparison, but I don't think the age grade change has any sort of significant impact in terms of the numbers]

Looking at both football and hurling Dublin has less registered teams than Cork at the moment [it's only a matter of a few years when Dublin will have more teams I'd imagine] but Dublin have more registered players in total.

This was the number of registered players for 2015

(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2016/10/04232200/GAA-Investment-1.jpg)

According to this Dublin had 5,365 (16%) more players than Cork in 2015.
Dublin -  39,197
Cork - 33,832

I would imagine the difference/discrepancy in the number of registered teams versus registered players is related to dual players.
It looks like a much higher percentage of Cork players would be on both hurling and football teams compared to in Dublin.
In 2020 Cork had 1313 hurling teams total versus Dublin having 1141 hurling teams.

You have a situation where Dublin have won 6 in a row, have got the lion's share of funding over the last decade and a half, have the most coaches by a mile, have the highest sponsorship, play the majority of their games at home, where most of the increases in playing numbers hasn't fed through to senior level and are the area where the population is predicted to grow the most in the next 10/20 years. You're looking at a situation where even if things go badly for Dublin they will win probably 15 out of the next 20 All-Irelands at a minimum.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 17, 2021, 04:18:27 PM
Looking at those figures, over the last decade at County level

The underachievers

Cork, Kildare, Meath, Galway

The overachievers

Clare, Monaghan, Roscommon
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 17, 2021, 04:21:07 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 17, 2021, 03:06:47 PM
Adult and underage football teams.
No hurling in the previous figures.
[Dublin has shown similar increases in the number of hurling teams over the same time period - 637 hurling teams in 2009 to 1,141 hurling teams in 2020]

The Dublin increase hasn't really fed through to senior level yet.

173 adult football teams in 2009
201 adult football teams in 2020
An increase of 28 in the number of adult football teams versus an increase of 497 in non-adult football teams [these are underage plus U21/U20 (the change from the U21 age grade to U20 means it's not an exact like-for-like comparison, but I don't think the age grade change has any sort of significant impact in terms of the numbers]

Looking at both football and hurling Dublin has less registered teams than Cork at the moment [it's only a matter of a few years when Dublin will have more teams I'd imagine] but Dublin have more registered players in total.

This was the number of registered players for 2015

(https://media.balls.ie/uploads/2016/10/04232200/GAA-Investment-1.jpg)

According to this Dublin had 5,365 (16%) more players than Cork in 2015.
Dublin -  39,197
Cork - 33,832

I would imagine the difference/discrepancy in the number of registered teams versus registered players is related to dual players.
It looks like a much higher percentage of Cork players would be on both hurling and football teams compared to in Dublin.
In 2020 Cork had 1313 hurling teams total versus Dublin having 1141 hurling teams.

You have a situation where Dublin have won 6 in a row, have got the lion's share of funding over the last decade and a half, have the most coaches by a mile, have the highest sponsorship, play the majority of their games at home, where most of the increases in playing numbers hasn't fed through to senior level and are the area where the population is predicted to grow the most in the next 10/20 years. You're looking at a situation where even if things go badly for Dublin they will win probably 15 out of the next 20 All-Irelands at a minimum.
Very surprised that Armagh, Down, Antrim and Tyrone all have similar numbers. Always thought we'd be well behind tbh!
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: seafoid on June 17, 2021, 04:38:43 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 17, 2021, 02:50:11 PM
I do agree that Dublin in the province is a massive downer but I still think the resources are not being put to use. There is an odd thing in Kildare where many of the big towns are simply not harnessing their populations either.

Like Leixlip and Kilcock are intermediate for example despite growing populations in the north of the county. Meanwhile the champions, Clogherinkoe, are a rural half-parish team. Now I know you can have great teams from small bases, but overall there is an issue grabbing 'blow-ins' for want of a better phrase in Kildare and Meath.

Dublin are the monster that would ruin any province if truth be told.
Kildare 's population is a fraction of Dublin's. Dublin have professionalised the production of county grade footballers.
No other county, even at maximum efficiency, could compete.
The story is insane.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2021, 06:29:05 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 17, 2021, 01:36:05 PM

Is that adult and underage club teams? Strange there has been such an increase in Mayo.

Just had a look at the Mayo numbers - there was 2 less adult teams in 2020 (83) compared to 2009 (85)
It was all underage - 504 teams in 2020 compared to 365 team in 2009.

I'd imagine that Mayo's presence at the top table was a big factor in driving that underage growth given that the population changes in the county over that time period would would be fairly minimal.

These are Mayo's population numbers for the most recent censuses.

2006 123,839
2011 130,638
2016 130,425

An increase of 6,586 in a decade.

These are Dublin's number for the most recent censuses.

2006 1,118,716
2011 1,273,069
2016 1,345,402

An increase of 158,226 in a decade.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: Armagh18 on June 17, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 17, 2021, 04:38:43 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 17, 2021, 02:50:11 PM
I do agree that Dublin in the province is a massive downer but I still think the resources are not being put to use. There is an odd thing in Kildare where many of the big towns are simply not harnessing their populations either.

Like Leixlip and Kilcock are intermediate for example despite growing populations in the north of the county. Meanwhile the champions, Clogherinkoe, are a rural half-parish team. Now I know you can have great teams from small bases, but overall there is an issue grabbing 'blow-ins' for want of a better phrase in Kildare and Meath.

Dublin are the monster that would ruin any province if truth be told.
Kildare 's population is a fraction of Dublin's. Dublin have professionalised the production of county grade footballers.
No other county, even at maximum efficiency, could compete.
The story is insane.
Mayo competed for 5 years. Kerry are competing at the minute.
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: rodney trotter on June 19, 2021, 10:44:02 AM
No Leinster U20 thread, but Bernard Flynn stepped down as Meath manager a few weeks before the Championship
https://t.co/bMI3ZE9hAO?amp=1
Title: Re: NFL Division 2 - 2021
Post by: thejuice on June 20, 2021, 10:46:18 PM
Shite situation made worse by Flynn pulling this stunt. Whatever about the agreements that we're made, we're down 6 starting players through injury and suspension so I can understand why Andy wants Costello and Hickey to stay with the seniors.

However having said that we haven't a hope of winning Leinster at senior anyway so probably better off focusing on U20s. Of course Andy isn't going to admit that and Flynn is just f**king over the rest of the U20 panel in the process.

Bad enough to be having no hope at senior but it seems those in charge of the U20s can't see past their own egos to do whats best for Meath as a whole.