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Hi All,

Another stats question.

We are using stat-a-pult to collect stats on a game by game basis- its easy to use and gives great graphical representations of what happened in the game.

Is anyone using a package/app/software to collate the data across a season (i.e. across the season to date rather than individual matches?.
Or is it as simple as identifying KPI's and plugging them into an excel template?

I would love to be able to show corner forward a graphical representation of where he shoots from across all games (scores, wides, shorts etc) the goal-keeper where his kick-out go etc...
Saying you won 48/62 kick-out is kind of meaningless but showing graphically where they have gone could be very beneficial.

Is there something out there to help collate the individual game data into season to date tallies?

What are clubs using to record & present in game stats?

We are a relatively new management team and would like to know what smallish clubs typically use to record in-game stats?

Are there (relatively) cheap apps / software available or is pencil & paper best. Costs is definitely a factor here.

We are not looking for earth shattering stats either, namely, turnovers, interceptions, kickouts, frees, shots/wides is what we are looking at.
Also, are the stats provided at water breaks & HT or throughout the game?

Hi All,

Has anyone been down the disciplinary route in relation to a the offence of 'To contribute to a melee'.

I can't find any information on it in the official guide.

Does anyone have a definition of what this actually means and more importantly what is not contributing to a Malee.

Hi All,

Looking for a bit of help from the posters on here is possible.

we are running a 'Strictly' night as a major club fundraiser this Easter.
I have been tasked with putting together the commemorative program for the evening which we hope to sell for €5.
And I don't have a clue how to start!!!!
I tried searching the net but there is nothing like this on there unfortunately.

Does anyone has a sample (PDF / word) of a commemorative program that they would have done with their club / society that they would be willing to share?
If there is a hard-copy of one then I would love to get a copy that I would return after photocopying!

Ideas on content would be appreciated as well.
The usual stuff is covered (competing teams profile, sponsors, club history, fixtures both local & national).
Any quirky ideas especially welcome.

Thanks.

Hi All,

Looking for a bit of advice on the SpotOn Footballs - https://www.spotonsports.ie/
They look good and I think they would help the kids but does has anyone used them?

If people did order them, what was the quality like and would they re-order them.

Thanks.

Ah transfer deadline day....... you'd nearly miss the constant refreshing of twitter hoping a saviour like Clint Dempsey or Diniyar Bilyaletdinov will join. In the last few years, the deadline day experience has been more sedate watching other clubs go nuts. Thomas Lemar was the last one we were really in for on deadline day!

I am looking for advice on implementing a payments solution for the Club.
Does anyone have contactless, GooglePay or AndroidPay payment active in their club for Gate Receipts, Club Gear, Club Shop or Club Lotto?
More and more people are carrying no cash to games as paying with cards / phones are increasingly common and the club want to try and tap into this.

Essentially we are looking to see if anyone else operate a mobile card reader (sumup.ie or equivalent) to capture card / cashless payments.
What is the experience with it (did it bring in more payments);
What are the benefits and drawbacks;
What are the costs (set-up and on-going fees) &
Would you do it again?

A steer in relation as to what technology to use would be great as well.

I would imagine there are quite a few treasurers on here that may be interested in this.

Thanks.

I like the proposed rule changes and believe they should be given a chance to operate on a trial basis.
The first question i ask is if the game is in a good place currently and the answer for me is a resounding no. To do nothing would be to accept the way the game is being played now. I don't ever want to a repeat of some of the games we saw in the summer; Kerry / Galway anyone? Combating defensive systems and limiting ball retention lie at the heart of the rule changes and this is to be welcomed.

Rule 1: The limit on the hand-pass i can only presume is to promote kick passing. For me kick-passing is the primary skill in the game. Anything that positivity promotes it is to be encouraged. I am in favour of making it harder to engage in that horrible practice of 'keep ball' and would favour more contested possessions so this one gets the thumps up from me. A long accurate kick-pass to an inside forward followed by three hand-passes is enough to open a defense when done at pace. I also don't buy the argument that it will be difficult to referee, it happens in the international rules with no issue and Pat McEneany (former referee chief) believes it would not be difficult to enforce.

Rule 2: Forward Sideline kick. I don't believe this goes far enough. I would bring this in for all dead ball kicks, they all should have to go forward. I don't see ball retention as a skill, rather i see it as a blight on the game. I want to see more contests for possession and ensuring a forward kick from restarts will encourage that. I would also limit teams from going back over the attacking 65 if they bring the ball into the attacking zone. Having teams move the ball backwards from the opposition 13m line back to the goalkeeper is depressing-to watch.

Rule 3: The Offensive Mark. What I believe this is trying to combat is the the dreaded blanket defense. Where team place up-to 10 players between the 45 & the 21 in the so called 'scoring zone'. Attacking teams can't get through and we have the wonderful vista of keep-ball around mid-field as witnessed in the Derry club game or Kerry / Galway league game in Tralee. With this rule teams can go over the blanket and be rewarded for accurate long kicks (as mentioned the primary skill in the game). So as a defensive team team do you still engage the blanket or do you move it back to cover the mark zone?Imagine the excitement of a long ball kicked into the square with a team down a point? This rule challenges defensive set-ups and will encourage kicking and high fielding so I am for this one as well.

Rule 4: The sin bin. Today yellow cards are handed out too easily. Football is just refereed differently to hurling. Games are no being negatively influenced by referees sending players off for two small yellow card infractions. I see the sin bin as an effort to redress this. However we will have a tick, first yellow card, second yellow card, black card & red card. Too much in my opinion. Keep the tick, yellow card = sin bin, black card = sin bin but must be replaced. Yellow + black or two yellows = red. The black card had no real effect in the closing stages of a game as players were happy to take the card. Now their team is down a man for the remainder of a game. This may lead to 15 vs 13 should two blacks be shown. More difficult for a team to just hang on and when taken in conjunction with the other rules changes should lead to more football being played at the end of games rather than the mess we see now. I believe this is worth a trial.

Rule 5: The kick-out. The most radical proposal and the one that appears designed to eradicate the defensive set-up of teams. So that reason I am in favour of trialing it. Take Tyrone as an example. When the ball is throw-in their two sweepers head to the D. Their forwards drop back to their 65 / 45 bar leaving 1 or 2 inside the opposition half. So in their structure you have 13 players inside their own half. They invite pressure and break at pace to exploit the space at the other side of the pitch. Except nowadays team realise this and play more defensive to mirror the Tyrone set-up leading to crap games (ala Kerry / Donegal 2014). This proposed rule change will make that structure impossible to maintain as it must be reset at every kick-out. The defending Tyrone forward players would need to sprint back to the opposition 45 prior to the kick-out and then back into position again. That is a lot of running for every kick-out. The rule wants players to adopt orthodox positions which may never fully happen again but I believe it could limit the 'total blanket' defensive systems that commit 13 to defense. Doing it from kickouts allows the ref to ensure all players are in the correct position. Its will be easy to see if players are in the correct positions as the ball is kicked. Additionally it will finally remove the great scourge of the modern game - the quick kick-out to the corner back....a welcome side effect. The one addendum i would make is for really bad weather, if the ref believes the goalkeeper made a genuine effort to get the ball out then i wouldn't penalize him.

Overall: I feel the game is broken as it stands, change is needed. We in the GAA are always too quick to say 'No' to change. Lets embrace the rules on a trial basis, learn the lessons (good or bad) and then decide if the change should be made permanent. Rugby is a good example, in the mid naughties it was not great viewing; Indeed Argentina got to a world-cup Semi final with the one tactic of Garryowens. World rugby realised that the game needed changing and the altered the laws of the game, particularly around the tackle, to encourage running rugby. Game far more entertaining now as a result. As an association we need to be confident enough to take the positive elements from other field based, invasion games, and incorporate them into our games, it what happened with defensive systems but has just gone a little too far to the dark side. These proposed rule changes redress the balance I feel.