European Super League

[seafoid]

The popular response seems to be very strongly against. That means the political response will be similar. It's plutocrats vs the people.

[Captain Obvious]

So much faux outrage over this from fans. They'll still watch and fork out whatever insane subscription fee is required to do so on DAZN or whatever and they'll still buy season tickets and the stadia will all be full. Until fans actually start voting with their wallets, no meaningful change will ever happen. Look at the state of so many Newcastle fans and prominent Newcastle journalists trying to argue that there's absolutely nothing wrong with MBS buying the club.

Perhaps United fans can buy some green and gold scarves again?

Fans don't want change. They want things to stay the way they are. The model where we can see 3rd tier Leicester City competing in the last 16 of the European Cup within 6 years.

Ffs. Third tier Leicester City who were bought by a Thai billionaire?!

So what? They still won the league having come from the 3rd tier. They still qualified for the champions league based on the results of actual football matches played in that season. The nationality or wealth of their deceased owner does not alter the relevance of that.
Fans want to believe that what's happens on the pitch matters. This proposal says that it does not.

Leicester winning the league totally against the odds was a great story and all neutral fans was pleased for them. Less so Manchester City's recent success.

[gallsman]

This is laughable. Outrage over the rich wanting to be richer so fans can pretend that anything is possible, using Leicester as an example. Because that's what fans want. Fairytales.

[trailer]

I know but f**k sake were do these guys get off. They are on Sky Sports. A Murdoch owned pay tv channel. Neville never opened his mouth when the Glaziers bought the club. He has a backbone when it suits his agenda.

BiB: Murdoch sold off BSkyB in 2018.

Ack ok but the point is valid.

[thewobbler]

As Leicester and Man City have shown, progress through the ranks has always been possible

Good grief, do people actually believe this pony?! Man City have shown what's possible? To who? Other clubs owned by petrostates?!

I think you're talking about apples but thinking about pears.

Regardless of how much money Leicester and City spent on their journeys from lower leagues to the Champions League, they could only do so because the opportunity exists.

And they got a chance to wave at the likes of Leeds and Portsmouth on the way down.

But there's Leeds back on Monday Night Football tonight.

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The "Super League" ends these possibilities.

[gallsman]

That the "opportunity exists" on an equal and shared basis is a complete fabrication. The opportunity only exists to historically relevant, large successful clubs, or those backed by wealthy benefactors, or both.

Leicester could only take that opportunity (an incredible achievement) due to having a wealthy owner. Swindon Town aren't winning the PL. Ever. Despite the fact that the opportunity exists for them.

[thewobbler]

That the "opportunity exists" on an equal and shared basis is a complete fabrication. The opportunity only exists to historically relevant, large successful clubs, or those backed by wealthy benefactors, or both.

Leicester could only take that opportunity (an incredible achievement) due to having a wealthy owner. Swindon Town aren't winning the PL. Ever. Despite the fact that the opportunity exists for them.

Some people  just don't wish to understand the concept of equality. It's not possible for everyone to have equal all the time. The key to equality in sport is that everyone involved has a chance, through strategic purchases, production and appointments, to achieve the lot. But here's the basic reality: only one team can win a championship each season. There's at least 19 losers in every flight.

By the same accord football wasn't "equal" for the blue half of Manchester for 50 years. Their neighbours had more money, more support, more influence. And then they'd Ferguson.

Then they hit the financial jackpot and things evened up, then tilted in their favour.

[Armagh18]

So much faux outrage over this from fans. They'll still watch and fork out whatever insane subscription fee is required to do so on DAZN or whatever and they'll still buy season tickets and the stadia will all be full. Until fans actually start voting with their wallets, no meaningful change will ever happen. Look at the state of so many Newcastle fans and prominent Newcastle journalists trying to argue that there's absolutely nothing wrong with MBS buying the club.

Perhaps United fans can buy some green and gold scarves again?

Fans don't want change. They want things to stay the way they are. The model where we can see 3rd tier Leicester City competing in the last 16 of the European Cup within 6 years.

Ffs. Third tier Leicester City who were bought by a Thai billionaire?!

Ah come on. What did that Leicester team cost compared to United/City/Chelsea teams?

[Armagh18]

Fair play to Jurgen Klopp. Would love to see someone like Marcus Rashford come out strongly against this shite, he'd get huge support.

[J70]

Fair play to Jurgen Klopp. Would love to see someone like Marcus Rashford come out strongly against this shite, he'd get huge support.

That's a lot to expect of a young lad like Rashford, credit to himself as he is.

Hopefully senior players will lead the way. James Milner said his piece tonight, as did Bamford for Leeds. But you need more senior players from the six teams involved.

They have to come together to stop this, as must the fans.

Top class Euro competition places must be earned on the pitch, not divied out based on wealth and perceived standing solely to make rich owners and banks even more rich.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Fair play to Jurgen Klopp. Would love to see someone like Marcus Rashford come out strongly against this shite, he'd get huge support.

And a P45.

[gallsman]

So much faux outrage over this from fans. They'll still watch and fork out whatever insane subscription fee is required to do so on DAZN or whatever and they'll still buy season tickets and the stadia will all be full. Until fans actually start voting with their wallets, no meaningful change will ever happen. Look at the state of so many Newcastle fans and prominent Newcastle journalists trying to argue that there's absolutely nothing wrong with MBS buying the club.

Perhaps United fans can buy some green and gold scarves again?

Fans don't want change. They want things to stay the way they are. The model where we can see 3rd tier Leicester City competing in the last 16 of the European Cup within 6 years.

Ffs. Third tier Leicester City who were bought by a Thai billionaire?!

Ah come on. What did that Leicester team cost compared to United/City/Chelsea teams?

Come on what? It's undeniably a great against-the-odds story. It's also undeniable that it was underwritten by external money that allowed them to climb the divisions. Pretending otherwise is daft

[Armagh18]

Fair play to Jurgen Klopp. Would love to see someone like Marcus Rashford come out strongly against this shite, he'd get huge support.

And a P45.

If enough players come out against it, the owners will be sitting on a big pile of nothing.

[imtommygunn]

Milner has come out against it.

[Milltown Row2]

Milner has come out against it.

Seriously? You'd need players that will actually be playing in it. As much as Milner is a great pro, his best days are behind him, If Liverpool are in this league next year he'll be at Norwich.

Unless we get the likes of Salah Rashford Kane and co coming out and s  are ting they won't play in it then it won't get any traction.

These lads are paid a wage and under contract. No one will walk away from an increase in wages, unless another team outside of the 12 offer them the same