China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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imtommygunn

Who decides what is lies lol.

Right so here's an example from an "anti vaxxer". So a well known Bbc journalist left the other week. She left and said she could say nothing because of an upcoming tribunal. So a well known anti vax blogger / tweeter the claims that she is leaving because of her views on the vaccine.  It then comes out that it is in fact ageism. Meanwhile all this guys followers, of which there are many, are up in arms about the bbc.

Who decides that's a lie? Well it is.

I don't actually mind that much if people are "anti vax". As long as they don't buy into the bullshit. Buying into censorship etc is buying into bullshit. The "campaign" or "narrative " has been hijacked by a lot of untoward people who are preying on some pretty disillusioned and disgruntled people.


From the Bunker

Quote from: lenny on December 05, 2021, 06:05:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 05, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 05:36:37 PM
Ftb do you think any of what is censored is censored because it is outright lies?

......and who decides what is lies? Who decides what is the truth? Is a open forum not healthy?

I started a thread on GAABOARD called The uncensored Covid 19 Thread. It was deleted by moderators within an hour.

There are people out there who're convinced the earth is flat. Do you think those people deserve equal air time to proper scientists. It's the same principle here.

Did you agree in the past of Censorship of Sinn Fein north and south of the Border? Was that the proper way to deal with that situation?

Rossfan

A village or 2 missing their eejits it seems.
Edwin Poots says Earth is around 6,000 years old
Science says 5 billion years old or more.
Should every programme about the Earth give 50% time to each viewpoint?

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2021, 06:43:30 PM
A village or 2 missing their eejits it seems.
Edwin Poots says Earth is around 6,000 years old
Science says 5 billion years old or more.
Should every programme about the Earth give 50% time to each viewpoint?

The problem is when you are getting 100% the view from one side!

Rossfan

So how much percent should be given to Poots?
Or the "view" that the vaccinations are Bill Gates microchips?
Or that Finland doesn't exist?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2021, 07:07:21 PM
So how much percent should be given to Poots?
Or the "view" that the vaccinations are Bill Gates microchips?
Or that Finland doesn't exist?

Do you lump everything you don't agree with into the same category?


From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2021, 07:07:21 PM
So how much percent should be given to Poots?
Or the "view" that the vaccinations are Bill Gates microchips?
Or that Finland doesn't exist?

I think a good decent percentage. If there is nothing to hide or if they are full of sh1te, have it out in the open.
The more their message is hidden the more the lie gets the chance to multiply underground.

If there is noting to hide, have it out in the open. A conspiracy theorist with no data or knowledge will be found out in an open forum.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: From the Bunker on December 05, 2021, 06:49:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2021, 06:43:30 PM
A village or 2 missing their eejits it seems.
Edwin Poots says Earth is around 6,000 years old
Science says 5 billion years old or more.
Should every programme about the Earth give 50% time to each viewpoint?

The problem is when you are getting 100% the view from one side!

but that is not the case... search NPHET on twitter and it very clear there is no censorship...

by the way poots opinions are out in the open... no censorship there either regardless of the crazy!

lenny

Quote from: From the Bunker on December 05, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2021, 07:07:21 PM
So how much percent should be given to Poots?
Or the "view" that the vaccinations are Bill Gates microchips?
Or that Finland doesn't exist?

I think a good decent percentage. If there is nothing to hide or if they are full of sh1te, have it out in the open.
The more their message is hidden the more the lie gets the chance to multiply underground.

If there is noting to hide, have it out in the open. A conspiracy theorist with no data or knowledge will be found out in an open forum.

These scientists all get the opportunity to publish their theories in peer reviewed journals. The problem is they can't het any other respected scientists to peer review and stand over their theories because they don't have any scientific accuracy. If their theories had any kind of legitimacy they would be getting published and would be in the mainstream. For exactly the same reason as those crackpot flat earth scientists don't get their ideas published.

From the Bunker

Quote from: lenny on December 05, 2021, 08:08:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 05, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 05, 2021, 07:07:21 PM
So how much percent should be given to Poots?
Or the "view" that the vaccinations are Bill Gates microchips?
Or that Finland doesn't exist?

I think a good decent percentage. If there is nothing to hide or if they are full of sh1te, have it out in the open.
The more their message is hidden the more the lie gets the chance to multiply underground.

If there is noting to hide, have it out in the open. A conspiracy theorist with no data or knowledge will be found out in an open forum.

These scientists all get the opportunity to publish their theories in peer reviewed journals. The problem is they can't het any other respected scientists to peer review and stand over their theories because they don't have any scientific accuracy. If their theories had any kind of legitimacy they would be getting published and would be in the mainstream. For exactly the same reason as those crackpot flat earth scientists don't get their ideas published.

Science/Scientists are funded by Big Pharma. For any to go against the grain would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

armaghniac

Scientists are like anyone else, if they can disprove some well known work and get it published in a top journal then they will become famous. If there is a flaw then someone will find it and get that fame.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

armaghniac

Parma companies may have influence but there are universities all over the world with all sorts of funding. It only takes one person to disprove something. Conspiracy theories are bollix.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

imtommygunn

Do you really think "big pharma" control everything and everyone in the world?? (Or censor?!) Also what would the majority of people who use the terminology "big pharma" know about large pharmaceutical companies? Answer : usually some crap they read on the internet!

They are like any other large business in any industry and will have corruption / greed etc associated with them but they do not control the world. (Otherwise I want their project manager because the coordination it would take for this whole "thing" would be off the charts).

From the Bunker

Quote from: armaghniac on December 05, 2021, 08:37:12 PM
Parma companies may have influence but there are universities all over the world with all sorts of funding. It only takes one person to disprove something. Conspiracy theories are bollix.

So (hypothetically) one scientist comes out and says whats going on! He decides to go against the grain. He posts his findings on Youtube, Facebook and Twitter. People who believe, share it. People who don't believe look and shake their head (or don't even look at all). How could this one Scientist be going against all the rest? they ask (if they even look).  Youtube, Facebook and Twitter censor the content. Dead end.

GAABoardMod5

Quote from: From the Bunker on December 05, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 05:36:37 PM
Ftb do you think any of what is censored is censored because it is outright lies?

......and who decides what is lies? Who decides what is the truth? Is a open forum not healthy?

I started a thread on GAABOARD called The uncensored Covid 19 Thread. It was deleted by moderators within an hour.

You are correct, this is a GAABOARD.  One discussion thread on Covid-19 issues is enough.