China Coronavirus

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-1-189-new-cases-confirmed-in-state-with-23-patients-in-icu-1.4627625
1378 cases
96 in hospital
23 ICU
The five-day moving average of cases has increased from 300 to 1,189 cases per day over one month

Donegal has 725 per 100,000; Louth is 474 per 100,000; Dublin is at 307 per 100,000; Limerick stands at 258 per 100,000; and Galway has 257 per 100,000
Tánaiste Leo Varadkar said earlier on Wednesday that he expects the fourth wave of Covid-19, driven by the Delta variant, to peak at 3,000 to 4,000 cases per day but with very low hospitalisation and death numbers.

Obviously these new variants are going to have less deaths.

Is there a big difference in the mortality rates on the new variants? i.e. is Delta more deadly than the beta etc. i know death rates are lower now because of the vaccine as a) if you are vaccinated the likelihood is you will not be as sick, b) treatments have improved significantly and c) a greater proportion of the people catching covid now are now more likely to be younger so are naturally less likely to be seriously ill.

Delta is less deadly. ICU cases are lower.

[JoG2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

What's your alternative to the vaccine?

[imtommygunn]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

Eh? They kind of did by saying 60% had the vaccine. Would you rather the headline read "40% of those admitted to hospital have been vaccinated"?

Mind you it would be interesting to read how many of those 40% are double vaccinated and how long they have been for as I imagine it would go to less than 40 have two vaccines and have had two for more than 14 days.

[LeoMc]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

When you look at the percentage of the population vaccinated and the demographic that are vaccinated. It is stark that so many in hospital are coming from the smaller, younger unvaccinated population.

[BennyCake]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

Eh? They kind of did by saying 60% had the vaccine. Would you rather the headline read "40% of those admitted to hospital have been vaccinated"?

Mind you it would be interesting to read how many of those 40% are double vaccinated and how long they have been for as I imagine it would go to less than 40 have two vaccines and have had two for more than 14 days.

If it's the truth, yes.

[imtommygunn]

Right. Then surely people would have a right to complain that they didn't say 60% of people hospitalised haven't had the vaccine.

Can't really win there can they...

[BennyCake]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

When you look at the percentage of the population vaccinated and the demographic that are vaccinated. It is stark that so many in hospital are coming from the smaller, younger unvaccinated population.

I find it strange that suddenly there's s spike in cases aged 18-35 just when they're pushing the vaccine for that group. The weathers better, people are outside more, the schools are closed. If we were to see a spike in cases, surely it would have been when kids were still at school, congregated indoors in classrooms, buses etc, and the weather was worse.

[BennyCake]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

What's your alternative to the vaccine?

Ivermectin.

[trailer]

Heard on radio if we can get 47,000 more people vaccinated in NI then hospitals admissions will for Covid will drop by 20%.

If hospital admissions continue to rise the government will take action. And I would fully support those who are unvaccinated to have restrictions put on their everyday life. People need protecting. The vaccination program will not run indefinitely so people need to choose if they are happy with those limitations or not. If they are then that is fine but if they complain they should be shot down immediately.

[Taylor]

Heard on radio if we can get 47,000 more people vaccinated in NI then hospitals admissions will for Covid will drop by 20%.

If hospital admissions continue to rise the government will take action. And I would fully support those who are unvaccinated to have restrictions put on their everyday life. People need protecting. The vaccination program will not run indefinitely so people need to choose if they are happy with those limitations or not. If they are then that is fine but if they complain they should be shot down immediately.

The problem is that even if we get the 47k vaccinated it is 14 days after their second vaccine before they are covered.

That is well over a month away.

Which means that the next month+ is vital

[dublin7]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

What's your alternative to the vaccine?

Ivermectin.

Ivermectin hasn't been proven as a treatment for covid and a large trial into its benefits was recently halted. If you're anti vaccine that's one thing, but if you're putting your faith in this then that's just bat s**t crazy. That should only be used for the treatment of animals.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

[JoG2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

What's your alternative to the vaccine?

Ivermectin.

This is your silver bullet??

[trueblue1234]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57940347

Hopefully reading this is a wake up call for all those who refuse the vaccine.

So is this also saying 40% of those admitted to hospital with Covid have had the vaccine?

Yeah, good point. But they conveniently didn't mention that bit.

What's your alternative to the vaccine?

Ivermectin.

Without going into the details of how effective Ivermectin is or isn't as there's still a huge question mark over it. (Read this as a start- https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns)  . It's a treatment of Covid not a preventative measure. You will soon over run the nhs just using Ivermectin.

EDIT - D7 got there first.

[BennyCake]

Heard on radio if we can get 47,000 more people vaccinated in NI then hospitals admissions will for Covid will drop by 20%.

If hospital admissions continue to rise the government will take action. And I would fully support those who are unvaccinated to have restrictions put on their everyday life. People need protecting. The vaccination program will not run indefinitely so people need to choose if they are happy with those limitations or not. If they are then that is fine but if they complain they should be shot down immediately.

Yes it will. People will constantly have to get jabbed, whether it's been proven to work or not.

[clarshack]

Heard on radio if we can get 47,000 more people vaccinated in NI then hospitals admissions will for Covid will drop by 20%.

If hospital admissions continue to rise the government will take action. And I would fully support those who are unvaccinated to have restrictions put on their everyday life. People need protecting. The vaccination program will not run indefinitely so people need to choose if they are happy with those limitations or not. If they are then that is fine but if they complain they should be shot down immediately.

Yes it will. People will constantly have to get jabbed, whether it's been proven to work or not.

Canada for one have purchased booster shots for well into 2024. The vaccination program ain't ending anytime soon.